Dark chocolate do people know why?
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What has been touted as the superfood quality of dark chocolate is actually destroyed in the cooking process. It is not superior to milk chocolate. It has fewer calories due to less sugar and that's about it. Eat it if you like it but it's not better for you nor does it have any superfood benefit.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/05/28/410313446/why-a-journalist-scammed-the-media-into-spreading-bad-chocolate-science
I eat a lot of raw cacao powder, organic, everyday. I may be addicted. So far so good. I'm happy with it and I did read about bioflavins, amd other benefits. Mainly I like chocolate and the feeling it gives me, that's why I keep eating it, a lot.
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I personally am not a fan of dark chocolate so i don't eat it.
As far as supplements, i'm a vegetarian so i DO take BCAAs, Creatine, and Protein Powder. If i didn't i think my training would suffer and my recovery would suck. If i ate whatever i wanted i think i'd get less than 40g of protein per day.
I agree though, if you eat meat there's no real need for any supplements unless you are deficient in something (like certain vitamins, minerals, omegas, etc.)0 -
Hmmm...
I've never heard of people eating in the gym. Never seen it, either. Although I did once see a candy wrapper in the cup holder of a treadmill the day after Halloween. Seems like kind of a gross place to be eating. Not cool to make a mess on the equipment if you're doing it out in the gym, and kinda nasty to do it back in the changing area, too. My gym's locker room includes the toilet and shower areas and a bunch of benches, countertops and lockers where sweaty strangers sit and drop their dirty drawers. The changing rooms are basically just another version of a public restroom. I wouldn't want to eat in there!
To each his/her own, I guess.
My gym has two lounges with microwaves. I make my protein shakes in them after my workout, sometimes I even eat a snack while I wait for my teens to finish basketball or swimming. To each his own, but I am grateful that my gym has these spaces.
ETA: I take BCAAs and protein supplements because I have medical issues that make it necessary for me. I don't eat dark chocolate because it's a migraine trigger. I do me and don't worry about what other people think.0 -
I eat it only because it tastes good, and I don't like chocolate that is too sweet or has a lower melting temp. In other words, I don't like milk chocolate.
As for flavonoids, the research is inconclusive, and i don't rely on inconclusive evidence to justify my decision to eat it.1 -
I heard it was good for high blood pressure so I had a small square a day and I started getting bad migraines so I don't eat it anymore.0
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CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Something something antioxidants something something. I have no idea what the quality of the research is that underpins the idea that chocolate is good for you. I do know a lot of nutritional "facts" are based on bad research (or none) so I don't credit them unless I have read up on them from a reliable source, which I haven't in this case.
Really, I don't think it's necessary to do a literature review every time you're going to have a snack. Eat a varied diet with lots of fruit and veg and your body will pick out what it needs.
Not trying to undermine your point of view but, do you not think it's beneficial to know how certain food can benefit you in different ways. Maximising the content of your diet with food that has extra health benefits is a bit of a no brainer in my opinion.
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chrisleyland314 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Something something antioxidants something something. I have no idea what the quality of the research is that underpins the idea that chocolate is good for you. I do know a lot of nutritional "facts" are based on bad research (or none) so I don't credit them unless I have read up on them from a reliable source, which I haven't in this case.
Really, I don't think it's necessary to do a literature review every time you're going to have a snack. Eat a varied diet with lots of fruit and veg and your body will pick out what it needs.
Not trying to undermine your point of view but, do you not think it's beneficial to know how certain food can benefit you in different ways. Maximising the content of your diet with food that has extra health benefits is a bit of a no brainer in my opinion.
On the other hand....
Assuming you're eating a diet that's already adequate in essential fats, amino acids, and all essential micronutrients.... is there really a point? I don't know, for most people they aren't even eating a sustainable calorie balance let alone hitting their micronutrition.
Focusing on all these little things that may or may not contain antioxidants and may or may not help x,y,z seems like it only adds to confusion and time-wasting.1 -
@rainbowbow I completely agree get the basics down first but I'm consistently hitting my macros and micronutrients so I'm now looking into more ways to add extra nutrients to my diet. But that's me, and like you say most people aren't getting the right calorie balance but to be ignorant to them (for want of a better word) closes off potentially more health benefits.3
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Hmmm...
I've never heard of people eating in the gym. Never seen it, either. Although I did once see a candy wrapper in the cup holder of a treadmill the day after Halloween. Seems like kind of a gross place to be eating. Not cool to make a mess on the equipment if you're doing it out in the gym, and kinda nasty to do it back in the changing area, too. My gym's locker room includes the toilet and shower areas and a bunch of benches, countertops and lockers where sweaty strangers sit and drop their dirty drawers. The changing rooms are basically just another version of a public restroom. I wouldn't want to eat in there!
To each his/her own, I guess.
Lots of gyms try to maximize revenue by offering a smoothie bar, so there is a natural place to eat there.0 -
If you enjoy the taste of it (as I do), it will boost your dopamine (as a lot of things do). I guess different people have different taste. I love the taste of dark chocolate. And that's reason enough to eat it.2
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Eating one or two squares of a good dark chocolate did wonders for helping me fight more dangerous cravings in the past. I need to get back in that habit.2
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chrisleyland314 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Something something antioxidants something something. I have no idea what the quality of the research is that underpins the idea that chocolate is good for you. I do know a lot of nutritional "facts" are based on bad research (or none) so I don't credit them unless I have read up on them from a reliable source, which I haven't in this case.
Really, I don't think it's necessary to do a literature review every time you're going to have a snack. Eat a varied diet with lots of fruit and veg and your body will pick out what it needs.
Not trying to undermine your point of view but, do you not think it's beneficial to know how certain food can benefit you in different ways. Maximising the content of your diet with food that has extra health benefits is a bit of a no brainer in my opinion.
Oh, absolutely, I'm actually very interested in nutrition, but I feel the specific benefits of a lot of "superfoods" are hugely overstated, mostly in order to sell something. It's like the difference between standard unleaded fuel and the premium formula - which is to say, minimal, and usually not worth the extra cash. Whereas people often talk as if not eating heavily marketed "superfoods" was like putting diesel in a petrol engine.
Most of the benefits in goji berries and flax seed can be got from a normal varied diet, and much less expensively, is what I'm saying. And sometimes it's just not worth the effort of reading up on research for the latest miracle food.
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Due to being type two diabetic, I eat dark chocolate because it's the lesser of 2 evils for me. One, two squares at the most about 3 days a week. I get the Ghirardelli 73% cacao. Anymore cacao than that doesn't taste good...to me at least.1
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I eat dark chocolate because it tastes good and isn't super sweet like milk chocolate. Don't really care if it's good for me or not... I always buy the Lindt 90%2
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chrisleyland314 wrote: »Before I start I have a confession I'm no dietitian or fitness guru but, recently I've started to take my nutrition seriously and by doing this I now understand why I need to eat or supplement certain things. I look back and was amazed at how much *kitten* I bought into. Testosterone boosters=*kitten* BCAA not needed if your diet is high in animal protein. And all other heavily marketed supplements that the companies sell. If you want to find out if I'm chatting *kitten* please look through examine.com
Anyway dark chocolate do people actually know why it's good for them? I've recently started having 2 squares of 85% cocoa after my workout with a protein shake and the looks I get is amazing. Just got me thinking do people actually know what is in certain foods and why they take certain supplements. I don't have the time nor the patience to explain myself in the gym but like to vent it here.
Please feel free to say why you take certain supplements. I'm curious.
i read dark chocolate is high in antioxidants . Also for me is low carb and high in good fats, but i eat 100% cacao when i have it
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As if we needed another reason to eat chocolate lol
I had totally stopped eating chocolate as part of my diet to lose weight and be more healthy in general, but iv decided to go vegetarian, gradually. So I was reading about how your iron levels n zinc etc can suffer while on a veggie diet, but chocolate has a lot of it plus antioxidants and other good stuff. I like the 70% dark chocolate
Can't believe iv found a good reason to include it in my diet happy days
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Not every square of dark chocolate is "microscopic". My go-to dark chocolate bars have 38 g or 40 g servings. Those are not "microscopic".Christine_72 wrote: »
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I eat like 4 squares. Sometimes 8. On occasion I have had 12 throughout the day.1
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kate141987 wrote: »As if we needed another reason to eat chocolate lol
I had totally stopped eating chocolate as part of my diet to lose weight and be more healthy in general, but iv decided to go vegetarian, gradually. So I was reading about how your iron levels n zinc etc can suffer while on a veggie diet, but chocolate has a lot of it plus antioxidants and other good stuff. I like the 70% dark chocolate
Can't believe iv found a good reason to include it in my diet happy days
Ha ha but it's still chocolate Kate a bar a day will NOT keep the doctor away haha!
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100% Cacao fan checking in.
I don't give a damn if it gives you antioxidants and zinc, or herpes and turbocancer. It's delicious and works in my macro allotment, until I go ZC.2 -
chrisleyland314 wrote: »You actually think anyone in your gym cares about you eating 2 pieces of chocolate...actually what you doing eating in the gym ..that's unneccessary ...eat it when you leave
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To clarify I eat it in the changing room before I either use the sauna or get showered before I make my way home a 20min drive at peak times. By the time I get home I'm nearly fainting with hunger with being on a diet. I don't stand around the leg press eating chocolate lol
This is the only place I eat my dark chocolate.
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mmn chocolate
and who cares what people think, you do YOU! 1 -
I watched a programme on cocoa growers and chocolate producers and this guy who does it for a living basically said people who eat chocolate generally do it wrong
What you should do is break off a small piece, like 5mm and put it in the centre of your tongue and allow it to melt ...no chewing, close your eyes and concentrate on the different "notes"
It actually works ..if you have time...and you find that 1 or 2 pieces of chocolate (like the squares you get in bars) will last 30 minutes and you'll not want any more
Of course I still snarfle sometimes, but it's so much nicer when you savour ...72% dark chocolate and a large glass of Malbec ...mmm4 -
Dark chocolate makes me so sad. And then I have to eat a whole bar of milk chocolate to take the sadness away.
Dark chocolate is what I imagine the desserts to be like in hell.3 -
It's tasty, there's some really good dark chocolate out there and you're all missing out! It has so much more depth of flavour than milk or white chocolate. Also less sugar, few calories, that's always good.3
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chrisleyland314 wrote: »@rainbowbow I completely agree get the basics down first but I'm consistently hitting my macros and micronutrients so I'm now looking into more ways to add extra nutrients to my diet. But that's me, and like you say most people aren't getting the right calorie balance but to be ignorant to them (for want of a better word) closes off potentially more health benefits.
There's diminishing returns on nutrition all the way to "Doesn't benefit you at all anymore and you just pee it out". Like just going all out on protein won't give you more gains after a certain point, micros and antioxidants and all that won't give you any benefits anymore above what your body can use. I even remember reading some antioxidants in excess may get metabolized to the exact opposite.
Also, micros aren't like macros, if you get more than your body needs it can't store them except for the fat soluble ones, which in turn if you store up too much you get toxic effects from those.
So, more isn't always good and at best it does nothing for you while at worst it's actively hurting you.1 -
caradack1985 wrote: »It's tasty, there's some really good dark chocolate out there and you're all missing out! It has so much more depth of flavour than milk or white chocolate. Also less sugar, few calories, that's always good.
I have to agree, I used to only like milk chocolate but once I got on to dark chocolate the milk chocolate just tastes too sweet and milky. Also I only can eat a little bit of the dark at a time so its a great way to feed my choccie cravings and not too sore on the calories 0
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