Dark chocolate do people know why?

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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    inezbruce wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    Less carbs!

    More fat! Lots of calories!

    An avocado has more fat then a chicken breast, its not always a bad thing :)
    The ingredients in lidnt 90% are far better then in Cadburys dairy milk.

    The ingredients aren't "far better". They are different. If I'm in my calorie goal for the day, have eaten nutritionally dease foods and have room for a nutritionally sparse food like chocolate, I don't get bonus points for eating the dark above the milk chocolate.

    Dark chocolate is not a super food. It's a nutritionally sparce food compared to a plethora of other foods. People who chose to eat it should if they like it but hopefully they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they've somehow made themselves healthier by choosing it over any other nutritionally sparce treat despite what "research" a Google search and the resulting dozens of buzzfeed type articles will claim.
  • inezbruce
    inezbruce Posts: 110 Member
    brower47 wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    Less carbs!

    More fat! Lots of calories!

    An avocado has more fat then a chicken breast, its not always a bad thing :)
    The ingredients in lidnt 90% are far better then in Cadburys dairy milk.

    The ingredients aren't "far better". They are different. If I'm in my calorie goal for the day, have eaten nutritionally dease foods and have room for a nutritionally sparse food like chocolate, I don't get bonus points for eating the dark above the milk chocolate.

    Dark chocolate is not a super food. It's a nutritionally sparce food compared to a plethora of other foods. People who chose to eat it should if they like it but hopefully they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they've somehow made themselves healthier by choosing it over any other nutritionally sparce treat despite what "research" a Google search and the resulting dozens of buzzfeed type articles will claim.

    Lets compare
    Lidnt 99%
    Cocoa Paste, Fat-Reduced Cocoa, Cocoa Butter, Demerara Sugar, Cocoa Solids:

    Cadburys Dairy milk
    Milk, sugar, cocoa butter, cocoa mass, vegetable fats (palm, shea), emulsifiers (E442, E476), flavourings.

    I know which one id choose.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    inezbruce wrote: »
    brower47 wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    Less carbs!

    More fat! Lots of calories!

    An avocado has more fat then a chicken breast, its not always a bad thing :)
    The ingredients in lidnt 90% are far better then in Cadburys dairy milk.

    The ingredients aren't "far better". They are different. If I'm in my calorie goal for the day, have eaten nutritionally dease foods and have room for a nutritionally sparse food like chocolate, I don't get bonus points for eating the dark above the milk chocolate.

    Dark chocolate is not a super food. It's a nutritionally sparce food compared to a plethora of other foods. People who chose to eat it should if they like it but hopefully they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they've somehow made themselves healthier by choosing it over any other nutritionally sparce treat despite what "research" a Google search and the resulting dozens of buzzfeed type articles will claim.

    Lets compare
    Lidnt 99%
    Cocoa Paste, Fat-Reduced Cocoa, Cocoa Butter, Demerara Sugar, Cocoa Solids:

    Cadburys Dairy milk
    Milk, sugar, cocoa butter, cocoa mass, vegetable fats (palm, shea), emulsifiers (E442, E476), flavourings.

    I know which one id choose.

    And Lindt milk chocolate has: Sugar, cocoa butter, whole milk powder, cocoa mass, milk sugar, reduced milk powder, emulsifier soy lecithin, barley malt extract, clarified butter, vanilla aroma.

    99% chocolate is a different food than milk chocolate that has different ingredients.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    You could add raw cacao powder into a smoothie if you want the antioxidants from it. It's also an energy boost (like coffee) if you want that. And still eat dark chocolate for the fun of it.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    Highest I had was 90%. I like it. Hmm I'm going to get groceries in a bit, maybe I'll get some.

    There's a warning on the package, basically for stupid people lol. It is intense but the whole bar has less than 300 calories. I think the package says 220 but that is one thing I have found to weigh more, by a long shot, than what the package says.

    I could have gotten the Lindt one but it was 2.50 for 50 grams vs. cheaper brand 85% at 1 Euro for 100, so I compromised and did not satisfy my curiosity.

    Whaa?? Come on.
  • TribalmamaEmily
    TribalmamaEmily Posts: 41 Member
    Daily dark chocolate consumption here, must be 60% or higher cocoa.

    Why?

    Because it's bitter.

    I tend to have a fatty liver, no gall bladder and a long history of diabetes...
    Along with the flavonoids and all that they can do in/for the brain; eating bitters regularly has been shown to:

    Curb sugar cravings
    Soothe gas and bloating
    Encourage digestive enzymes, bile & HCL production
    Calm upset stomach and nausea
    Increase absorption of fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, K
    Help maintain healthy blood sugar levels
    Balance appetite
    Ease constipation and regulate bowel movements
    Support liver function and healthy skin

    Folks use to eat bitters after a meal due to its' engagement of the digestive system.

    However i'm also an advocate of the many diverse roots, barks, flowers and herbs of the wild plant kingdom in which are bursting with bitter flavor and flavonoids as well. :o)
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    After reading this thread I've decided to give dark chocolate another try and am hoping 2 squares will satisfy my sweet craving. I went hardcore :tongue: and bought the darkest choc they had.

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  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    @Christine_72 But they didn't have 99%? J/k I don't recommend that one to anyone who wants to "dabble" in dark chocolate lol
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    @Christine_72 But they didn't have 99%? J/k I don't recommend that one to anyone who wants to "dabble" in dark chocolate lol

    Haha I knew someone was going to say that. It was either 70% or this one, nothing in between, and the 70% ones were all flavoured with caramel, sea salt or almond, which would make them too tempting to overeat!
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    @Christine_72 But they didn't have 99%? J/k I don't recommend that one to anyone who wants to "dabble" in dark chocolate lol

    Haha I knew someone was going to say that. It was either 70% or this one, nothing in between, and the 70% ones were all flavoured with caramel, sea salt or almond, which would make them too tempting to overeat!

    Yeah, the caramel and sea salt ones are really good.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    There is one by the endangered species brand that is 70% with almond cream. It is basically marzipan. That's how it tastes. It's so good, but only if you like marzipan. I know some people don't.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    There is one by the endangered species brand that is 70% with almond cream. It is basically marzipan. That's how it tastes. It's so good, but only if you like marzipan. I know some people don't.

    OMG i love marzipan!!
  • abatonfan
    abatonfan Posts: 1,120 Member
    I went to Walmart yesterday and got some 100% cacao chocolate (Baker's unsweetened and Ghiradelli 100% cacao) and had the Baker's chocolate last night. I have been missing out on such amazingness (if anything, I wish there was a tiny bit more cocoa butter in it. The mouthfeel was a tiny bit dry/gritty, but it might be because I'm used to 85-90% chocolate).

    Thanks for fueling my dark chocolate addiction!
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Daily dark chocolate consumption here, must be 60% or higher cocoa.

    Why?

    Because it's bitter.

    I tend to have a fatty liver, no gall bladder and a long history of diabetes...
    Along with the flavonoids and all that they can do in/for the brain; eating bitters regularly has been shown to:

    Curb sugar cravings
    Soothe gas and bloating
    Encourage digestive enzymes, bile & HCL production
    Calm upset stomach and nausea
    Increase absorption of fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, K
    Help maintain healthy blood sugar levels
    Balance appetite
    Ease constipation and regulate bowel movements
    Support liver function and healthy skin

    Folks use to eat bitters after a meal due to its' engagement of the digestive system.

    However i'm also an advocate of the many diverse roots, barks, flowers and herbs of the wild plant kingdom in which are bursting with bitter flavor and flavonoids as well. :o)

    Been shown by whom?
  • faramelee
    faramelee Posts: 163 Member
    brower47 wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    Less carbs!

    More fat! Lots of calories!

    An avocado has more fat then a chicken breast, its not always a bad thing :)
    The ingredients in lidnt 90% are far better then in Cadburys dairy milk.

    The ingredients aren't "far better". They are different. If I'm in my calorie goal for the day, have eaten nutritionally dease foods and have room for a nutritionally sparse food like chocolate, I don't get bonus points for eating the dark above the milk chocolate.

    Dark chocolate is not a super food. It's a nutritionally sparce food compared to a plethora of other foods. People who chose to eat it should if they like it but hopefully they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they've somehow made themselves healthier by choosing it over any other nutritionally sparce treat despite what "research" a Google search and the resulting dozens of buzzfeed type articles will claim.

    Minimally processed dark chocolate is nutritionally better for you than milk chocolate due to the amount of flavanols it contains, which benefit the body in many ways. It contains less calories per gram than milk chocolate as there is less sugar etc in it therefore it is the 'healthier' option than milk chocolate, although it won't make you healthy, that's the difference. I'm not being pedantic it's just a fact.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    faramelee wrote: »
    brower47 wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    Less carbs!

    More fat! Lots of calories!

    An avocado has more fat then a chicken breast, its not always a bad thing :)
    The ingredients in lidnt 90% are far better then in Cadburys dairy milk.

    The ingredients aren't "far better". They are different. If I'm in my calorie goal for the day, have eaten nutritionally dease foods and have room for a nutritionally sparse food like chocolate, I don't get bonus points for eating the dark above the milk chocolate.

    Dark chocolate is not a super food. It's a nutritionally sparce food compared to a plethora of other foods. People who chose to eat it should if they like it but hopefully they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they've somehow made themselves healthier by choosing it over any other nutritionally sparce treat despite what "research" a Google search and the resulting dozens of buzzfeed type articles will claim.

    Minimally processed dark chocolate is nutritionally better for you than milk chocolate due to the amount of flavanols it contains, which benefit the body in many ways. It contains less calories per gram than milk chocolate as there is less sugar etc in it therefore it is the 'healthier' option than milk chocolate, although it won't make you healthy, that's the difference. I'm not being pedantic it's just a fact.

    It may be better for YOU nutritionally, but you don't know mine or anyone else's nutritional needs. Maybe I want the calories and the sugar for MY needs.

  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edited August 2016
    faramelee wrote: »
    brower47 wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    Less carbs!

    More fat! Lots of calories!

    An avocado has more fat then a chicken breast, its not always a bad thing :)
    The ingredients in lidnt 90% are far better then in Cadburys dairy milk.

    The ingredients aren't "far better". They are different. If I'm in my calorie goal for the day, have eaten nutritionally dease foods and have room for a nutritionally sparse food like chocolate, I don't get bonus points for eating the dark above the milk chocolate.

    Dark chocolate is not a super food. It's a nutritionally sparce food compared to a plethora of other foods. People who chose to eat it should if they like it but hopefully they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they've somehow made themselves healthier by choosing it over any other nutritionally sparce treat despite what "research" a Google search and the resulting dozens of buzzfeed type articles will claim.

    Minimally processed dark chocolate is nutritionally better for you than milk chocolate due to the amount of flavanols it contains, which benefit the body in many ways. It contains less calories per gram than milk chocolate as there is less sugar etc in it therefore it is the 'healthier' option than milk chocolate, although it won't make you healthy, that's the difference. I'm not being pedantic it's just a fact.

    Dark chocolate has more calories than milk chocolate... You shouldn't say things are fact when in fact they're not facts.
  • battyfitch
    battyfitch Posts: 117 Member
    I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but "dark chocolate" isn't really a thing in so much that companies can label something as dark chocolate despite it having a relatively low cocoa percentage.

    It needs to be 70% cocoa at a minimum, but 85-90% and even 95-100% is best.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    My 85% is 100 calories higher than the milk chocolate by the same brand.

    And it's delicious.
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    battyfitch wrote: »
    I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but "dark chocolate" isn't really a thing in so much that companies can label something as dark chocolate despite it having a relatively low cocoa percentage.

    It needs to be 70% cocoa at a minimum, but 85-90% and even 95-100% is best.

    I'm pretty sure most people are aware of that. Its been all over the internet and media for years being shoved down peoples throats. Instructions on % and all, advising people how healthy it is. I have fat relatives that eat dark chocolate because they think its better for their health.
  • marm1962
    marm1962 Posts: 950 Member
    edited August 2016
    Before I start I have a confession I'm no dietitian or fitness guru but, recently I've started to take my nutrition seriously and by doing this I now understand why I need to eat or supplement certain things. I look back and was amazed at how much *kitten* I bought into. Testosterone boosters=*kitten* BCAA not needed if your diet is high in animal protein. And all other heavily marketed supplements that the companies sell. If you want to find out if I'm chatting *kitten* please look through examine.com

    Anyway dark chocolate do people actually know why it's good for them? I've recently started having 2 squares of 85% cocoa after my workout with a protein shake and the looks I get is amazing. Just got me thinking do people actually know what is in certain foods and why they take certain supplements. I don't have the time nor the patience to explain myself in the gym but like to vent it here.

    Please feel free to say why you take certain supplements. I'm curious.

    I have Lyme disease and Psoriasis so I take the following supplements:

    Zinc, because it helps Boost the immune response (helps fight skin infections)

    Magnesium, to help repair Nerves, muscles, bones, and the heart (inflamed nerves & ligaments)

    Flaxseed Oil, for the Omega 3 (I don't like fish oil) helped bring down my triglyceride levels

    Probiotic, Because of all the antibiotics I have had to take that kill gut bacteria

    Viactiv Calcium Chews w/D&K, Not enough Calcium or D in my diet (per blood results)

    Biotin, for Skin rashes, high blood levels of cholesterol

    Blood Pressure Pill , Doctor prescribed low dose w/diuretic

    The probiotic I take is designed to withstand stomach acid in order to make it to the intestines.
    I am also researching Keratin supplements to help with my nails, do to the psoriasis they are becoming brittle and dry, and a couple are split all the way down to the nail bed.


  • faramelee
    faramelee Posts: 163 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    faramelee wrote: »
    brower47 wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    inezbruce wrote: »
    Less carbs!

    More fat! Lots of calories!

    An avocado has more fat then a chicken breast, its not always a bad thing :)
    The ingredients in lidnt 90% are far better then in Cadburys dairy milk.

    The ingredients aren't "far better". They are different. If I'm in my calorie goal for the day, have eaten nutritionally dease foods and have room for a nutritionally sparse food like chocolate, I don't get bonus points for eating the dark above the milk chocolate.

    Dark chocolate is not a super food. It's a nutritionally sparce food compared to a plethora of other foods. People who chose to eat it should if they like it but hopefully they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they've somehow made themselves healthier by choosing it over any other nutritionally sparce treat despite what "research" a Google search and the resulting dozens of buzzfeed type articles will claim.

    Minimally processed dark chocolate is nutritionally better for you than milk chocolate due to the amount of flavanols it contains, which benefit the body in many ways. It contains less calories per gram than milk chocolate as there is less sugar etc in it therefore it is the 'healthier' option than milk chocolate, although it won't make you healthy, that's the difference. I'm not being pedantic it's just a fact.

    It may be better for YOU nutritionally, but you don't know mine or anyone else's nutritional needs. Maybe I want the calories and the sugar for MY needs.

    @Hornsby you're right, I wasn't actually advocating eating either type of chocolate or prescribing individual nutritional advice just responding to the comment about it potentially being classed as a superfood and the general difference between milk and dark chocolate.
  • faramelee
    faramelee Posts: 163 Member
    My 85% is 100 calories higher than the milk chocolate by the same brand.

    And it's delicious.

    That is interesting, which chocolates are you referring to? The brand itself makes no difference as they often create different types of chocolate with varying levels of cocoa, sugar etc. I am definitely intrigued by the chocolates you are comparing though if the dark has so many more calories than the milk as that is a very rare occurrence in a like for like comparison. I'm not being sarcastic, I would really like to know. :)
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edited August 2016
    It's a German brand called Zetti.

    85% Dark

    643kcal | 2658kJ
    Fat 56,7g
    saturated 34,5g
    Carbs 19,8g
    Sugar 12,6g
    Fiber 10,7g
    Protein 8,2g

    Milk Chocolate

    554kcal | 2310kJ
    Fat 35,0g
    Saturated 21,8g
    Carbs 51,1g
    Sugar 49,0g
    Fiber 2,0g
    Protein 7,7g
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    And the ones by Lindt are all around the same calories, regardless of which type of chocolate, so the dark chocolate is still not lower in calories.
  • battyfitch
    battyfitch Posts: 117 Member
    I was watching a video on YouTube about dark chocolate and they said it tends to have more fat in it than other types. Could that account for the calorie difference?
  • Lisa_Ookoo
    Lisa_Ookoo Posts: 134 Member
    Try blending 1 tablespoon raw cacao powder and a dash of cinnamon with 8 ounces fresh watermelon juice. It sounds like an odd combo but it's delicious! No magical properties, though..
  • dragon_girl26
    dragon_girl26 Posts: 2,187 Member
    TL;DR

    Why? Because I like the bitterness of dark chocolate, and milk chocolate just tastes like sugar. If I wanted something that tasted like sugar, I'd eat sugar.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    TL;DR

    Why? Because I like the bitterness of dark chocolate, and milk chocolate just tastes like sugar. If I wanted something that tasted like sugar, I'd eat sugar.

    You can't tell the difference between milk chocolate and granulated sugar?
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