Why is shirtless running ok only if you "have the right body type"?
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amusedmonkey wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »jeepinshawn wrote: »Running shirtless, walking topless, wearing a wife beater, it is all about societal expectations. Society, at least american, says that men and woman should have these very idealized bodies and those that don't are inferior or less than attractive. Thats just the way it is like it or not society has set those expectations, you can go against those expectations or go with the flow.
Personally I run with a tank top or a "dry" fabric type shirt. I don't have an attractive body and don't have the desire to let the world view my saggy empty skin.
Wearing a what now?
Wifebeater, known in the more civilized parts of the world, as an A-shirt, or some such silliness:
Vest or tank top
Those two things describe a very wide variety of things. Wifebeater is very specific article of clothing, though as I said, the manufacturer's name for it is A-shirt, but probably only because someone would get mad about the more common name being on a clothing package.
Come to my country and ask for a wifebeater or an A shirt and you're getting nowt
Vest or tank top is what they are specifically called in the UK
Yeah, it was a shock for me too when I first heard it. Turns out it's a very specific type of sleeveless undershirt, it has to be white and ribbed. Any other color or type of material does not qualify.
It really is best with beer stains.3 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »jeepinshawn wrote: »Running shirtless, walking topless, wearing a wife beater, it is all about societal expectations. Society, at least american, says that men and woman should have these very idealized bodies and those that don't are inferior or less than attractive. Thats just the way it is like it or not society has set those expectations, you can go against those expectations or go with the flow.
Personally I run with a tank top or a "dry" fabric type shirt. I don't have an attractive body and don't have the desire to let the world view my saggy empty skin.
Wearing a what now?
Wifebeater, known in the more civilized parts of the world, as an A-shirt, or some such silliness:
I believe many will say the term wife beater became popular with the US tv show Cops. The show followed police officers on their shifts and filmed the action. Often the police would be called for a domestic incident and they would show the suspect cuffed and being led out of the house or trailer wearing the "wife beater" shirt.1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »jeepinshawn wrote: »Running shirtless, walking topless, wearing a wife beater, it is all about societal expectations. Society, at least american, says that men and woman should have these very idealized bodies and those that don't are inferior or less than attractive. Thats just the way it is like it or not society has set those expectations, you can go against those expectations or go with the flow.
Personally I run with a tank top or a "dry" fabric type shirt. I don't have an attractive body and don't have the desire to let the world view my saggy empty skin.
Wearing a what now?
Wifebeater, known in the more civilized parts of the world, as an A-shirt, or some such silliness:
Vest or tank top
Those two things describe a very wide variety of things. Wifebeater is very specific article of clothing, though as I said, the manufacturer's name for it is A-shirt, but probably only because someone would get mad about the more common name being on a clothing package.
Come to my country and ask for a wifebeater or an A shirt and you're getting nowt
Vest or tank top is what they are specifically called in the UK
Yeah, it was a shock for me too when I first heard it. Turns out it's a very specific type of sleeveless undershirt, it has to be white and ribbed. Any other color or type of material does not qualify.
It really is best with beer stains.
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I can't believe I read this whole kitten thread and haven't seen a single shirtless pic posted yet. How else can I form a solid opinion?3
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Shirtless running isn't really a thing in this part of the world.
Now rushing out in the first bit of rare sunshine and basking in a garden chair until you're lobster coloured....0 -
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I haven't had any in years, I take what I can get. My husband looks worse than Rab Nesbitt.VintageFeline wrote: »Free the nipple! For some on this thread this applies to men as well as women. When did we become so offended by something we all have? A body? Surely it's healthier from a psychological development point of view to be comfortable with the notion we come in all shapes and sizes and we should get on with our lives regardless of what is underneath our clothing?
I don't see it much here. But go to Scotland on any sunny day almost any day of the year and you'll see lots of "lads" with their "taps aff", actual temperature be damned. It's a tourist attraction really.
brb booking flight to Scotland
I wouldn't if I were you
Don't do itnutmegoreo wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Free the nipple! For some on this thread this applies to men as well as women. When did we become so offended by something we all have? A body? Surely it's healthier from a psychological development point of view to be comfortable with the notion we come in all shapes and sizes and we should get on with our lives regardless of what is underneath our clothing?
I don't see it much here. But go to Scotland on any sunny day almost any day of the year and you'll see lots of "lads" with their "taps aff", actual temperature be damned. It's a tourist attraction really.
brb booking flight to Scotland
I'll see you there!
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I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.3 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to ogled/validated my passing complete strangers.
Running shirtless isn't really a big thing here. I have found that it really depends on where you are.
But there is the odd couple of people I know who do it, particularly in races. They are also the type of people who are the last person to do things to get ogled/validated.2 -
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amyrebeccah wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you were more comfortable that way, great. If you were courting chafing and overheating just so you could feel morally superior to others, that's a shame.
Have never overheated or had chafing.
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Christine_72 wrote: »amyrebeccah wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you were more comfortable that way, great. If you were courting chafing and overheating just so you could feel morally superior to others, that's a shame.
Have never overheated or had chafing.
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LiftingLady5 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
Maybe nobody was looking at you regardless of what you were wearing. Same goes for a guy without a shirt. People are very self centered nowadays..... How could you stand running in baggy clothes? I would think that would be distracting and irritating to me. I hate when a baggy shirt flops around when I'm running. Drives me crazy. That's my personal opinion.
I really dislike when cars honk or guys yell sleazy stuff out their car windows etc etc etc etc So, like i said i dressed in a way that helped avoid
those annoyances.
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3dogsrunning wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »amyrebeccah wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you were more comfortable that way, great. If you were courting chafing and overheating just so you could feel morally superior to others, that's a shame.
Have never overheated or had chafing.
Lucky you.
I honestly have no idea. What do you guys do in winter when it's snowing and freezing? Surely guys don't go shirtless then. Or doesn't chafing happen in winter? Truly have no idea.
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Christine_72 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »amyrebeccah wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you were more comfortable that way, great. If you were courting chafing and overheating just so you could feel morally superior to others, that's a shame.
Have never overheated or had chafing.
Lucky you.
I honestly have no idea. What do you guys do in winter when it's snowing and freezing? Surely guys don't go shirtless then. Or doesn't chafing happen in winter? Truly have no idea.
I don't sweat as bad in the cold. I still get the odd chafing but not nearly as bad as summer.
And the shirtless guys I know still run when it gets pretty cold shirtless. Not full on winter but deep into the shoulder seasons.0 -
Nothing wrong with having the confidence. My neighborhood girls walk their dogs in bikinis. Ladies run in sports bras and most guys run shirtless. There are always shirtless guys on the tennis courts. I like being surrounded by confidence.3
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Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
So because you are running around in baggy clothes judging other people, you are better than the guy running shirtless minding his own business?8 -
Hauntinglyfit wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
So because you are running around in baggy clothes judging other people, you are better than the guy running shirtless minding his own business?
Where did say I was better? Some people love getting attention, other aren't fussed about it or want/need it, i just happen to fall in the latter category.0 -
amyrebeccah wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »amyrebeccah wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you were more comfortable that way, great. If you were courting chafing and overheating just so you could feel morally superior to others, that's a shame.
Have never overheated or had chafing.
Lucky you.
I honestly have no idea. What do you guys do in winter when it's snowing and freezing? Surely guys don't go shirtless then. Or doesn't chafing happen in winter? Truly have no idea.
I don't sweat as bad in the cold. I still get the odd chafing but not nearly as bad as summer.
And the shirtless guys I know still run when it gets pretty cold shirtless. Not full on winter but deep into the shoulder seasons.
Same. Also it doesn't snow where I live and may not even dip below freezing, even in the three weeks we call "winter."
It definitely snows here. I know a guy who wore a tank top and gloves in the coldest race I can remember doing. I was frozen. He was also probably running twice as fast as me too so...0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you're at the beach..put an effing shirt on..you're not at home lounging around half-naked. Well..that seems effing ridiculous..just as viewing the person as "half-naked" is effing ridiculous.
If your first thought is "he's thinking "look at me, look at me" I wonder why in the hell that would be your first thought..especially, if you're someone on this forum, who seems to be into fitness?
If you think those women bouncing around in their tiny sports bras and even smaller shorts (say..wait..what neighborhood do you live in? I may have to jog there..cuz I'm not seeing that where I am at..and I live right next to one of..if not THE MOST POPULAR athletic club in the area) Just your words there..makes it seem to me ..you have some hang-ups?
I would have thought , your first thought would be "good for them"? They're out getting fit..and maybe they look good too!
Seems like you're self-conscious with nudity, half-nakedness and bodies in general, if you have a fear of being ogled and problems with men with their shirts off, being half-naked and women running around in their scandalous teeny shorts and tiny sports bras not getting healthy, but their bodies shouting look at me, look at me?
I could be completely wrong of course, but that's my first thoughts in reading what you wrote?8 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Hauntinglyfit wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
So because you are running around in baggy clothes judging other people, you are better than the guy running shirtless minding his own business?
Where did say I was better? Some people love getting attention, other aren't fussed about it or want/need it, i just happen to fall in the latter category.
There's a difference between saying "i prefer to run in baggy clothes" and saying "put an effing shirt on", he's thinking "look at me", "bouncing around in tiny sports bra" and so on.
You are making assumptions as to why these people are wearing what they are wearing. And you seem to be bothered by it, and wanting them to do what you are doing (again "put an effing shirt on") which suggests that you believe your way is "better".8 -
Wow. So I happen to run in the smallest items of clothing I currently feel comfortable in. Once I feel comfortable I will definitely go down the small shorts and sports bra route. Because I overheat really easily and have exercise induced panic attacks exacerbated by the overheating. I do all I can to mitigate this. I get heckled by men whether I am covered from head to toe or wearing very little and I am damned if misogyny is going to stop me being comfortable. Do I enjoy the attention, particularly when scarlet faced and sweaty? No. But that's not going to stop me.
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People actually care what others wear (or don't wear)? I thought this ended in middle school.
This thread is bizarre and sad.9 -
Tomorrow I'm going to run naked.17
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It's simply a matter of aesthetics; if you are visually inclined the sight of someone visually unappealing is well, unappealing. If you don't notice that sort of stuff do your thang.1
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BiggDaddy58 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you're at the beach..put an effing shirt on..you're not at home lounging around half-naked. Well..that seems effing ridiculous..just as viewing the person as "half-naked" is effing ridiculous.
If your first thought is "he's thinking "look at me, look at me" I wonder why in the hell that would be your first thought..especially, if you're someone on this forum, who seems to be into fitness?
If you think those women bouncing around in their tiny sports bras and even smaller shorts (say..wait..what neighborhood do you live in? I may have to jog there..cuz I'm not seeing that where I am at..and I live right next to one of..if not THE MOST POPULAR athletic club in the area) Just your words there..makes it seem to be ..you have some hang-ups?
I would have thought , your first thought would be "good for them"? There out getting fit..and maybe they look good too!
Seems like you're self-conscious with nudity, half-nakedness and bodies in general, if you have a fear of being ogled and problems with men with their shirts off, being half-naked and women running around in their scandalous teeny shorts and tiny sports bras?
I could be completely wrong of course, but that's my first thoughts in reading what you wrote?
The beach is the beach, one expects to see shirtless men or bikini clad women there.
I am very confident and don't have a fear of being ogled, it is just incredibly irritating. When i was a teenager i enjoyed attention from boys, but the older I've got the less i give a F what total strangers think of me or if they find me attractive enough to honk their horn or yell out charming things at me when i'm trying to go about my business.
I know some women who get upset if they aren't gawked at. They are incredibly insecure and far from confident, they need that validation to prove to themselves that they are desired/attractive.
What would you call a guy wearing just a pair of shorts and nothing else? Half naked or perhaps half dressed
Sorry guys, my opinion of these people will never change. I've met too many show ponies in my life time, they're pretty easy to spot. I will continue to roll my eyes and chuckle to myself when i see them. You can hate me for my opinion and deny or acknowledge that some people are like this. It makes no difference to me.
Debating this is pointless, and will end up with someone being reported and chucked in jail. So with that i'm out, I have given my opinion to the the opening post which is all i came here to do, not to belittle, justify or argue back and forth.0 -
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