Are bananas and peanut butter a bad thing?
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brichards_ wrote: »
I don't want to sound annoying or pushy but dairy is not good for weightloss, and corn syrup (in a lot of peanut butters) is not healthy. That's my simple way of saying it. Of course she can eat what she wants, but that's my view on them. There's not dairy in either thing she said, I can't recall why I put that but anyways...TavistockToad wrote: »brichards_ wrote: »As long as there is no dairy and no processed sugar or corn syrup then it's just fine!
what happens if any of those things are present....?
Dairy isn't good for weight loss? Hahaha BS. I'm almost 100lbs and consume lots of daily. If it wasn't for dairy, I wouldn't even meet my daily protein goals.
The ONLY thing that isn't good for weight loss is consuming too many calories.4 -
I am confused, where does the palm oil come in?caradack1985 wrote: »So many comments and nobody has mentioned palm oil, won't somebody think of the chimpanzees!!
Actually I should make nice cream for my child, anything that gets more fruit and veg in him.
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brichards_ wrote: »
I can't really say it like my research has said it so I'll try my best. Dairy is the breast milk made for baby cows. It is a natural growth formula for the baby cow. A human isn't really meant to breast feed a growth formula from a cow, if that makes sense. It causes, well, growth, like it does for the baby cow. It also causes constipation and bloating due to the fact that the human body doesn't really like having milk and it's hormones and pus cells in it. Usually people are trying to lose fat on their diets, and dairy is high in fat, such as saturated fat. This can be slightly bad towards weight loss goals, although some fat is necessary to eat of course. Eating healthy fats will be better towards the body. Hopefully this makes a little sense?TavistockToad wrote: »brichards_ wrote: »
I don't want to sound annoying or pushy but dairy is not good for weightloss, and corn syrup (in a lot of peanut butters) is not healthy. That's my simple way of saying it. Of course she can eat what she wants, but that's my view on them. There's not dairy in either thing she said, I can't recall why I put that but anyways...TavistockToad wrote: »brichards_ wrote: »As long as there is no dairy and no processed sugar or corn syrup then it's just fine!
what happens if any of those things are present....?
why/how is dairy bad for weight loss?
Somebody read Skinny B!tch...4 -
MeganMeCrazy247 wrote: »So I found this awesome recipe online that helps replace ice cream cravings. Basically you freeze a bunch of chopped bananas then blend it with some vanilla extract and a choice of your flavor, in this case I use my Peanut Butter Co. Dark Chocolate Dreams, and it tastes delicious. The thing I'm worried about is if its too much. Basically when it comes down to the ingredients and macro nutrients, I'm eating about 2-3 bananas and 3-4 tbsp of peanut butter along with a tsp of vanilla. Now I feel like that is a lot of bananas. I might even be eating more. I usually eat this when I'm about to exercise a lot or for a post workout smoothie type thing. Anyone have any suggestions or comments, concerns? I don't want to get backed up with bananas to be honest haha, I just feel like with the amount of banana and chocolate peanut butter I'm basically eating the equivalent of chocolate ice cream. What do you think???
It's probably more calories than a bowl of ice cream...it sounds delicious, but if you're trying to watch calories I really don't see why you would necessarily do this to replace some ice cream.0 -
brichards_ wrote: »but now that I'm vegan, I don't need to diet or do calorie defecit because I'm just eating healthy so it's not about dieting anymore.
If you wish to maintain your weight and or lose weight you'd better believe it's still about calories. Always will be...
You drank the cool aid...brichards_ wrote: »I can be happy and eat whatever I want if it's plant based and not have to feel guilty.1 -
brichards_ wrote: »
I don't want to sound annoying or pushy but dairy is not good for weightloss, and corn syrup (in a lot of peanut butters) is not healthy. That's my simple way of saying it. Of course she can eat what she wants, but that's my view on them. There's not dairy in either thing she said, I can't recall why I put that but anyways...TavistockToad wrote: »brichards_ wrote: »As long as there is no dairy and no processed sugar or corn syrup then it's just fine!
what happens if any of those things are present....?
Dairy is just fine for weight loss and there are numerous studies indicating that having 2-3 servings of dairy daily can help control things like diabetes and help regulate blood sugar...and there are plenty of peanut butters without any added sugars at all.
I ate dairy throughout my weight loss phase and easily dropped 40 Lbs and have had zero issues maintaining that now for almost 3.5 years without logging or anything.2 -
They are AWESOME!!!!0
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Queenmunchy wrote: »The frozen banana with peanut flour was my facorite dessert before. As everyone else said, weigh and log.
Do you put the peanut flour on the banana pre freezing or as you eat it? Sounds like something right up my alley.
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Fatal1ty2k5 wrote: »Queenmunchy wrote: »The frozen banana with peanut flour was my facorite dessert before. As everyone else said, weigh and log.
Do you put the peanut flour on the banana pre freezing or as you eat it? Sounds like something right up my alley.
@Fatal1ty2k5 I cut and slice the bananas and flash freeze them. Then I take out a few and put it into the food processor with some peanut flour until it has an ice cream consistency. To this day, it's still my daughter's favorite and she's has it since she was old enough to eat solids (almost 9 now).1 -
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"Is there a cancer connection?
Does cow's milk cause cancer or protect against it? There’s no clear link between milk and cancer, one way or the other. Dairy opponents say milk increases breast, prostate and ovarian cancer risks. But only a few studies support this, and many studies have found no increased risk. In addition, milk may reduce colon cancer risks, because of its calcium and vitamin D. For example, a study in the British Journal of Nutrition in 2006 found that people who drank very little milk had a somewhat higher risk of colon cancer than those who drank at least a glass a day."
From berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/lists/8-key-facts-about-milk/slideid_419
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J Am Coll Nutr. 2011 Oct;30(5 Suppl 1):464S-70S.
Dairy products and cancer.
Lampe JW1.
Author information
Abstract
Cancer is a group of more than 100 diseases in which cells display uncontrolled growth, invasion, and sometimes metastasis. Milk and dairy products contain micronutrients and several bioactive constituents that may influence cancer risk and progression. Much of the focus of human, population-based studies has been on the effects of intake of milk and total dairy products or of calcium intake. Based on a systematic review of the epidemiologic literature, the World Cancer Research Fund and American Institute for Cancer Research report concluded there was a probable association between milk intake and lower risk of colorectal cancer, a probable association between diets high in calcium and increased risk of prostate cancer, and limited evidence of an association between milk intake and lower risk of bladder cancer. For other cancers, the evidence was mixed or lacking. Since the 2007 report, several additional, large-cohort studies have been published, including two that show an inverse association between intake of cultured dairy products and bladder cancer. Little is known about the potential effect of various bioactives produced during rumen microbe metabolism on cancer risk. Furthermore, studies support a role of live microbes present in some dairy products in the modulation of the human gut microbial community and gut metabolism. Given the growing appreciation for the role of the gut microbial community in relation to immune function and health and disease, including cancer, the potential role of various dairy products in the modulation of the human gut microbiome warrants further evaluation. Key teaching points: As a dietary exposure, dairy products are a complex group of foods and composition varies by region, which makes evaluation of their association with disease risk difficult. For most cancers, associations between cancer risk and intake of milk and dairy products have been examined only in a small number of cohort studies, and data are inconsistent or lacking. Meta-analyses of cohort data available to date support an inverse association between milk intake and risk of colorectal and bladder cancer and a positive association between diets high in calcium and risk of prostate cancer. Other constituents of dairy products, such as rumen-derived metabolites, have not been evaluated extensively for cancer-preventive properties. The influence of live microbes in fermented dairy products and certain cheeses on the human gut microbiome and immune function is a growing area of study.
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There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.geneticsteacher wrote: »I am confused, where does the palm oil come in?caradack1985 wrote: »So many comments and nobody has mentioned palm oil, won't somebody think of the chimpanzees!!
Actually I should make nice cream for my child, anything that gets more fruit and veg in him.geneticsteacher wrote: »I am confused, where does the palm oil come in?caradack1985 wrote: »So many comments and nobody has mentioned palm oil, won't somebody think of the chimpanzees!!
Actually I should make nice cream for my child, anything that gets more fruit and veg in him.
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Do you have valid references for this? Just curious, I have never heard this theory.0
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brichards_ wrote: »
it's poor form to go around telling certain people their suggestions are wrong just because maybe you have something against veganism. Sure it's different, but it makes a lot of sense when you do the research, and I know it works for me, so if someone's looking to try something new, I'm giving them MY suggestion from MY account. I don't care if others don't like what worked for me, they don't know how good I feel. Sorry if I'm not this proper account.brichards_ wrote: »
many people lose weight on it. For me, before I went vegan I lost 20 lbs. but now that I'm vegan, I don't need to diet or do calorie defecit because I'm just eating healthy so it's not about dieting anymore. I can be happy and eat whatever I want if it's plant based and not have to feel guilty.dragon_girl26 wrote: »brichards_ wrote: »
I don't want to sound annoying or pushy but dairy is not good for weightloss, and corn syrup (in a lot of peanut butters) is not healthy. That's my simple way of saying it. Of course she can eat what she wants, but that's my view on them. There's not dairy in either thing she said, I can't recall why I put that but anyways...TavistockToad wrote: »brichards_ wrote: »As long as there is no dairy and no processed sugar or corn syrup then it's just fine!
what happens if any of those things are present....?
Nonsense.
The only thing bad for weight loss is excess calories.
If the dairy thing were true, there wouldn't be overweight vegans or lactose intolerant folks, and if you're on this site for awhile you'll discover quickly that there are plenty of both...
For the record. I eat Greek yougrt, cheese, ice cream nearly every single day, and have lost 85 lbs.
It's great that you found something that works for you, but no need to spread misinformation. Veganism is a wonderful ethical choice, but it is not the magic bullet to weight loss.
If you lost weight after becoming vegan, that is because that way of eating created a calorie deficit for you, and that's great! But there are plenty of people who go vegan (or vegetarian) and eat too much and gain weight. Just like the rest of us schmucks eat all the horrible dairy and corn syrup, and still manage to gain weight.
Vegan or vegetarian is a lifestyle and/or health choice, not a weight loss choice. There are fat vegans and skinny carnivores. There are fat omnivores, and skinny vegetarians.
Calories in/out for weight loss
Macros/food source choices - for health, fitness goals, and lifestyle choices
Exercise for fitness and health
And FYI - based on your sudden flurry of posting the same thing in multiple threads - It's great that your moral compass led you to become vegan and you're excited about it. But it's poor form to go around telling people that veganism will help them lose weight because it did for you, and to throw "guilt" into the equation. There are many forum regulars who are long-time vegans, but they are very clear that they lost weight because they ate the right amount of calories, regardless of what they are eating. It never works to try to guilt people into changing the way they live their lives.
Ironic post is ironic.5 -
caradack1985 wrote: »There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.
Lots of peanut butter is nothing but peanuts or peanuts and salt. The palm oil is used to keep it from separating, so the kinds you have to stir typically won't have it.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »caradack1985 wrote: »There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.
Lots of peanut butter is nothing but peanuts or peanuts and salt. The palm oil is used to keep it from separating, so the kinds you have to stir typically won't have it.
I was mostly being facetious! There's palm oil in all sorts of things, for some reason the peanut butter thing stuck so I buy whole earth peanut butter and ignore that it's in pretty much all the chocolate I eat!1 -
caradack1985 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »caradack1985 wrote: »There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.
Lots of peanut butter is nothing but peanuts or peanuts and salt. The palm oil is used to keep it from separating, so the kinds you have to stir typically won't have it.
I was mostly being facetious! There's palm oil in all sorts of things, for some reason the peanut butter thing stuck so I buy whole earth peanut butter and ignore that it's in pretty much all the chocolate I eat!
Ah, sorry! I missed it. Sometimes I read too seriously, although I don't intend my own posts to be read that way normally.0 -
Ha. Me too.0
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I can make a smoothie for 300 calories MAX with chocolate whey, pbfit, banana, frozen blueberries, butternut squash, ground flax seed, cauliflower, zucchini, spinach or kale and other veggies I've experimented with because I use a water base instead of dairy. I save dairy for light cheese sticks. Many veggies can be hidden in a smoothie with a chocolate banana water base, and it will taste like a peanut butter cup.0
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I think my taste buds might be more discriminating than yours, then.chandraminick wrote: »I can make a smoothie for 300 calories MAX with chocolate whey, pbfit, banana, frozen blueberries, butternut squash, ground flax seed, cauliflower, zucchini, spinach or kale and other veggies I've experimented with because I use a water base instead of dairy. I save dairy for light cheese sticks. Many veggies can be hidden in a smoothie with a chocolate banana water base, and it will taste like a peanut butter cup.
I'd rather eat *two* real peanut butter cups for 210 calories, max.
https://www.hersheys.com/reeses/products/reeses-peanut-butter-cups/milk-chocolate.aspx1 -
bananas and pb are bae
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Sounds good to me. These are nutrient dense foods you are eating. If you are able to hit your overall caloric targets while satisfying cravings, you can permamently achieve and maintain goals.0
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