Addicted to diet coke.. help :(
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PennWalker wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So today I went to a confectionery and bought a diet coke and the store owner and my dad started giving me a lecture about how its bad for me , causes diabetes , weight gain etc.
I am kinda worried now as I am literally addicted and love it and its all I drink since I really hate water
I drink about 4 Litres a day ( I know its a lot ). Anyone has an idea regarding what I can do ?
Coke of all kinds is about as acidic than battery acid (I learned that in a science class). You can use it to clean rust off your car.
http://www.livescience.com/7198-acids-popular-sodas-erode-tooth-enamel.html
Don't tell yourself that you hate water -- give yourself a more positive message. Become a water freak. Put chilled bottles of water in your fridge. Try water with a slice of lemon or lime over ice. Buy yourself a gorgeous water bottle and carry it everywhere.
The kindergarten teachers use Coca Cola to clean dried paste off of scissors. It makes a great cleaner.
Vinegar is used to clean buildup in a coffee maker. Peanut butter is used to clean gum off of things. Your point?15 -
Diet coke contains caffeine and some small amount of salt which are both diuretic, that is true. However it also contains water. The amount of water it contains far outweighs the diuretic affect of the relatively little caffeine and salt is contained within. The idea that drinking a diet coke is somehow like drinking negative water is false. If you drink water you will be better hydrated than drinking water containing a diuretic, but you will still receive some hydration...it isn't a net negative.
People tend to get bored by simply counting calories and upping their activity level so they love to add all these little complications to keep themselves engaged like they have to avoid this or they have to get that. It really isn't that complicated, you don't have to avoid diet coke or diuretics to be healthy.10 -
Alluminati wrote: »PennWalker wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So today I went to a confectionery and bought a diet coke and the store owner and my dad started giving me a lecture about how its bad for me , causes diabetes , weight gain etc.
I am kinda worried now as I am literally addicted and love it and its all I drink since I really hate water I drink about 4 Litres a day ( I know its a lot ). Anyone has an idea regarding what I can do ?
Coke of all kinds is about as acidic than battery acid (I learned that in a science class). You can use it to clean rust off your car.
http://www.livescience.com/7198-acids-popular-sodas-erode-tooth-enamel.html
Don't tell yourself that you hate water -- give yourself a more positive message. Become a water freak. Put chilled bottles of water in your fridge. Try water with a slice of lemon or lime over ice. Buy yourself a gorgeous water bottle and carry it everywhere.
The kindergarten teachers use Coca Cola to clean dried paste off of scissors. It makes a great cleaner.
Vinegar is used to clean buildup in a coffee maker. Peanut butter is used to clean gum off of things. Your point?
Oxygen destroys metal, but coke cleans off the rust. We should all breath coke.15 -
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Naturallivingideas.com is where you go for believable scientific reporting huh?
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869151300495X
ETA: Just realized if you don't have journal access you hit a paywall, I'd be happy to provide the full meta-analysis to anyone who wants it.
Fear of aspartame is unscientifically founded bunk. Its woo. Its a public fear-driven movement that has no basis or merit. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't pan out in any actual scientific study. There is no reason for concern. Its a methylated dipeptide for christ sake.5 -
Metabolic syndrome
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/6880 -
This thread. I can't even. There's so much facebook pseudoscience BS woo that my head hurts.
OP is already convinced that her diet coke is perfectly fine...
Believe science not woo (we need this on a shirt or something).
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Metabolic syndrome
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688
Did you actually read the study or did you stop at the title? Perhaps point to the place within the study where you feel they demonstrate a causative effect between drinking diet soda and weight gain or the development of type 2 diabeties. Or perhaps point out the part of this study where they provide the mechanism by which that would happen given that aspartame is just a methylated dipeptide.9 -
PennWalker wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So today I went to a confectionery and bought a diet coke and the store owner and my dad started giving me a lecture about how its bad for me , causes diabetes , weight gain etc.
I am kinda worried now as I am literally addicted and love it and its all I drink since I really hate water I drink about 4 Litres a day ( I know its a lot ). Anyone has an idea regarding what I can do ?
Coke of all kinds is about as acidic than battery acid (I learned that in a science class). You can use it to clean rust off your car.
http://www.livescience.com/7198-acids-popular-sodas-erode-tooth-enamel.html
Don't tell yourself that you hate water -- give yourself a more positive message. Become a water freak. Put chilled bottles of water in your fridge. Try water with a slice of lemon or lime over ice. Buy yourself a gorgeous water bottle and carry it everywhere.
The kindergarten teachers use Coca Cola to clean dried paste off of scissors. It makes a great cleaner.
Google "gastric acid" (you know, the stuff that's in your stomach 24 hours a day for your entire life) and see how acidic it is.3 -
I got the girl version! Yay me!cerise_noir wrote: »This thread. I can't even. There's so much facebook pseudoscience BS woo that my head hurts.
OP is already convinced that her diet coke is perfectly fine...
Believe science not woo (we need this on a shirt or something).
/thread.
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »PennWalker wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So today I went to a confectionery and bought a diet coke and the store owner and my dad started giving me a lecture about how its bad for me , causes diabetes , weight gain etc.
I am kinda worried now as I am literally addicted and love it and its all I drink since I really hate water I drink about 4 Litres a day ( I know its a lot ). Anyone has an idea regarding what I can do ?
Coke of all kinds is about as acidic than battery acid (I learned that in a science class). You can use it to clean rust off your car.
http://www.livescience.com/7198-acids-popular-sodas-erode-tooth-enamel.html
Don't tell yourself that you hate water -- give yourself a more positive message. Become a water freak. Put chilled bottles of water in your fridge. Try water with a slice of lemon or lime over ice. Buy yourself a gorgeous water bottle and carry it everywhere.
The kindergarten teachers use Coca Cola to clean dried paste off of scissors. It makes a great cleaner.
Vinegar is used to clean buildup in a coffee maker. Peanut butter is used to clean gum off of things. Your point?
Oxygen destroys metal, but coke cleans off the rust. We should all breath coke.
Have you ever seen what plain old water can do? It created the Grand Canyon, for heaven's sake!9 -
I want the black version. Love this.queenliz99 wrote: »
I got the girl version! Yay me!cerise_noir wrote: »This thread. I can't even. There's so much facebook pseudoscience BS woo that my head hurts.
OP is already convinced that her diet coke is perfectly fine...
Believe science not woo (we need this on a shirt or something).
/thread.
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Oh screw it I'll just link to it, always feel silly doing this but why repeat myself when I've already hashed this out a million times before:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary12 -
cerise_noir wrote: »I want the black version. Love this.queenliz99 wrote: »
I got the girl version! Yay me!cerise_noir wrote: »This thread. I can't even. There's so much facebook pseudoscience BS woo that my head hurts.
OP is already convinced that her diet coke is perfectly fine...
Believe science not woo (we need this on a shirt or something).
/thread.
Googling now!2 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Oh screw it I'll just link to it, always feel silly doing this but why repeat myself when I've already hashed this out a million times before:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary
"For those who understand, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, no explanation will do."11 -
I'm not one to argue on internet forums, but there is a lot of documentation.
This science paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/
And this piece on safefood, although this group obviously has a point of view:
http://www.safefood.org.nz/aspartaddict.html
An FDA paper on aspartame toxicity:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt
And many more. There are also pieces saying it is perfectly safe, so pick your poison. But one thing is sure - giving it up is not going to hurt you.
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Metabolic syndrome
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688
Did you actually read the study or did you stop at the title? Perhaps point to the place within the study where you feel they demonstrate a causative effect between drinking diet soda and weight gain or the development of type 2 diabeties. Or perhaps point out the part of this study where they provide the mechanism by which that would happen given that aspartame is just a methylated dipeptide.
It won't impact me because I try to avoid it. That is great if everything is okay. I will be happy for everyone addicted to diet Coke. I have heard mixed reports.0 -
Aaron, did you read the results in the article?0
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cerise_noir wrote: »I want the black version. Love this.queenliz99 wrote: »
I got the girl version! Yay me!cerise_noir wrote: »This thread. I can't even. There's so much facebook pseudoscience BS woo that my head hurts.
OP is already convinced that her diet coke is perfectly fine...
Believe science not woo (we need this on a shirt or something).
/thread.
Etsy!! and it is also in black!!
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Its a methylated dipeptide for christ sake.
I'm going to close all of my arguments with this from now on.6 -
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I'm not sure why you continue to comment on these types of threads. People are asking for help. Spreading misinformation isn't helping. Maybe learn the facts for yourself before posting because it's extremely unfair to newcomers that you continue to do this.6 -
rankinsect wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »doesn't cause weight gain, doesn't cause diabetes, doesn't cause cancer, etc. etc. etc.
The only worry i'd have consuming the amount you're talking about is the damage to your teeth or potential Reflux/Acid symptoms.
Really ? Thanks
literally EVERYONE tells me how bad it is for my health and that I should stop
The phosphoric acid in Coca Cola has been known to cause osteoporosis by leaching calcium out of bones and weaken teeth when consumed in largr quantities.
Teeth? Sure. Bone? Not a chance. To actually weaken bone via acidity, your blood pH would need to fall below 5.5 - which is far beyond the lethal level. Normal body pH is incredibly tightly regulated.
For that matter, acidic drinks are not going to increase stomach acidity, because you'd never swallow anything more acidic than your stomach acid - whatever you drink is going to reduce the acidity of your stomach contents. Actual acidosis tends to be caused by either kidney damage or poisoning, such as by drinking methanol, or by severe oxygen deprivation, not by consumption of acidic drinks.
http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/features/soda-osteoporosis ("Researchers at Tufts University, studying several thousand men and women, found that women who regularly drank cola-based sodas -- three or more a day -- had almost 4% lower bone mineral density in the hip, even though researchers controlled for calcium and vitamin D intake.")
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/4/936.full
It's not via acidity. If occurring, it's probably via co-ordination (a broad category of interactions including chelation). And, no, not every phosphorus containing compound would have this effect. It would be limited to phosphoric acid and the related phosphates in which there are free oxygen atoms available to co-ordinate to the calcium. It appears that the caffeine may also be a contributing factor (since the noncola sodas were not shown to give the same reduced bone density).
Anyway, I managed to drastically reduce (but not eliminate) my diet soda intake by replacing it with flavoured waters (e.g. Crystal Light) which I increasingly diluted. I was able to get myself up to about half my intake being water, most of the rest being flavoured water or home brewed iced tea, with one or two diet sodas a day as well.
I wouldn't have been worried if the OP said she was drinking half a liter a day, but 4 liters a day is going to be very hard on the teeth and may increase her risk of osteoperosis.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »
Awesome!0 -
I have drastically cut down over the last 2 months or so and I was addicted! I was about to go shopping for more and said to myself 'I drink too much of it, I need to drink more water'. I also wanted to save some money. I decided that I wouldn't have it in the house but that I would not cut it our of my life. If I wanted diet coke, I would have to go and buy it in a litre bottle at the shop. I told myself I should feel no guilt about wanting to drink it. I end up drinking water because there is nothing else and I can't be bothered going to the shops. I also stopped buying sparkling water... just water now. I did get massive headaches for about a week but it's all good now. There have been a few times when the craving came and I went and got some and enjoyed it! I drink it at restaurants too. It's like chips and chocolate for me... just don't have it in the house and you find alternatives.1
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AnabolicMind2011 wrote: »
I'm not sure why you continue to comment on these types of threads. People are asking for help. Spreading misinformation isn't helping. Maybe learn the facts for yourself before posting because it's extremely unfair to newcomers that you continue to do this.
It isn't misinformation. Phosphoric acid is in Coca Cola. It dissolves your teeth and studies suggest that it could possibly cause osteoporosis over time with women.
I'm not saying a glass or two a day would necessarily hurt someone. I have no idea what safe limits are. But some people drink 2 liters or even a 6 pack or more a day.1 -
Sincere curiosity, why is it that only women seem to be susceptible to osteoporosis but not men, if the risks seem to be so high in your opinion? What is it about men that protects them from bone damage?AnabolicMind2011 wrote: »
I'm not sure why you continue to comment on these types of threads. People are asking for help. Spreading misinformation isn't helping. Maybe learn the facts for yourself before posting because it's extremely unfair to newcomers that you continue to do this.
It isn't misinformation. Phosphoric acid is in Coca Cola. It dissolves your teeth and studies suggest that it could possibly cause osteoporosis over time with women.
I'm not saying a glass or two a day would necessarily hurt someone. I have no idea what safe limits are. But some people drink 2 liters or even a 6 pack or more a day.
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ogmomma2012 wrote: »
Sincere curiosity, why is it that only women seem to be susceptible to osteoporosis but not men, if the risks seem to be so high in your opinion? What is it about men that protects them from bone damage?AnabolicMind2011 wrote: »
I'm not sure why you continue to comment on these types of threads. People are asking for help. Spreading misinformation isn't helping. Maybe learn the facts for yourself before posting because it's extremely unfair to newcomers that you continue to do this.
It isn't misinformation. Phosphoric acid is in Coca Cola. It dissolves your teeth and studies suggest that it could possibly cause osteoporosis over time with women.
I'm not saying a glass or two a day would necessarily hurt someone. I have no idea what safe limits are. But some people drink 2 liters or even a 6 pack or more a day.
That is what the study found. Women were impacted. I don't know what protects them!0
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