Why does everybody detest low carb diets? They are the only thing that works for me
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If low carb works for you, great. Don't listen to them. I do suggest counting your calories though so that when you are in maintenance you really understand your food or you can have higher carbs days and still get into a deficit for the week.
I look better on low carbs, my body literally looks less puffy and watery. It allows me to eat more food, volume wise, and stay much fuller on a large quantity of vegetables, meat, and fat. That said, I'm not extreme. A high day would be 200, and I can be comfortable on as low as 50g.9 -
billglitch wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »To be fair, when you say it's the only thing that works for you, it is a little different because you do have a medical condition that low carb eating is recommended for.
where does it say that anyone has a medical condition? did i miss something?
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I detest any kind of diet that restricts food groups. That said, everyone is different and reacts differently to different diets. What works for you wouldn't necessarily work for me. And what works for me is eating foods I love, like bread and pasta. I just do so within my goals.
Technically, by the numbers, I eat low carb most days, between 110-130g. I don't consider myself low carb because it's unintentional at best. I eat what I want/planned, doesn't matter what it is as long as it fits my calorie goal. Last night I had pizza and pancakes (not together) and actually hit my 40% carb macro, which I usually don't. I do always hit my protein and fat goals (30% each).2 -
I detest any kind of diet that restricts food groups. That said, everyone is different and reacts differently to different diets. What works for you wouldn't necessarily work for me. And what works for me is eating foods I love, like bread and pasta. I just do so within my goals.
Technically, by the numbers, I eat low carb most days, between 110-130g. I don't consider myself low carb because it's unintentional at best. I eat what I want/planned, doesn't matter what it is as long as it fits my calorie goal. Last night I had pizza and pancakes (not together) and actually hit my 40% carb macro, which I usually don't. I do always hit my protein and fat goals (30% each).
I don't call myself low carb either, but 110-130 is considered low carb. Props for fitting pizza and pancakes into that goal. I usually get a few treats in myself.1 -
Cyndi10612 wrote: »I feel like people freak out when you tell them you are on an extremely low calorie diet, Atkins, etc. I catch the wrath from friends and family, and even online communities, that low carb diets are so bad for you but honestly it's the only thing that works for me and I feel better so why not!
It seems many will oppose anything they don't do. Here on MFP it also seems to me that some will oppose every radical claim made in the past by anyone, and attach it to the present discussion.
Just do what works for you, and ignore arguments against things you never claimed. :-)11 -
Moderately low carb, high protein works well for me. I aim for less than 70 grams of carbs a day, and 90-110 grams of protein. I fill in the calories with fat, because I need energy, and because my doctor suggested cutting back on carbs, for my cholesterol. It worked. The higher fat diet lowered my LDL, and raised my HDL, a lot.2
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billglitch wrote: »I am doing low carb high fat and have lost over 90 pounds since the end of January. I have thought about it logically and here is what i think. The high fat part keeps you from feeling hungry and makes it easy to reduce calories.
I think this is one reason why it works for some. It wouldn't work for me for that reason (it might for other reasons, but ways I prefer to eat also work fine for me), since I don't find fat satiating at all. (Apparently this is more common than not, and so the way that low carbers assume that fat is inherently extra satiating is one of the things I find slightly grating. For some, yes; for all or even most, no.) I think why low carb works for many is because they get motivated by the quick drop and because they cut out (as "carbs") many foods that aren't particularly satiating but happen to be half fat or in some cases stuff like soda (not satiating, lots of calories) or because they really enjoy their diets (all the foods they've been told weren't diet foods, like bacon, steak, cheese)--a good thing that too few dieters realize is important--and aren't cutting out more nutrient-dense or satiating carbs because their prior diet was perhaps already lacking in those.
Anyway, like I said, I think it definitely can work and can be healthful. I just don't think it's superior in general or is the right choice for everyone.My question is if the way "they" say to eat is so good why are so many people fat?
The number of Americans who eat like nutrition-expert types recommend or like the Dietary Guidelines or My Plate or the Harvard revised My Plate is pretty low. And those who do tend to be fat in much lower percentages than the US average. (To be fair, the recommendations focus on nutrition--you can eat a nutritious diet and be fat. Those who also eat appropriate calories aren't fat, but that's basically a truism.)1 -
I generally don't tell people what my specific methods are, because I cannot provide them with months of reading and research and results in 30 seconds. If somebody asks me what I did / am doing to lose weight, I just tell them that I am making sure that the calories I consume are less than the calories I burn. This is enough for casual conversation. I might add '...while getting adequate protein, fiber, and fat' depending on the person. If the person asking is really looking for help, I will go into detail.
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I detest any kind of diet that restricts food groups. That said, everyone is different and reacts differently to different diets. What works for you wouldn't necessarily work for me. And what works for me is eating foods I love, like bread and pasta. I just do so within my goals.
Technically, by the numbers, I eat low carb most days, between 110-130g. I don't consider myself low carb because it's unintentional at best. I eat what I want/planned, doesn't matter what it is as long as it fits my calorie goal. Last night I had pizza and pancakes (not together) and actually hit my 40% carb macro, which I usually don't. I do always hit my protein and fat goals (30% each).
While I agree with you, I think low carb is appropriate for type 2 diabetics or IR folk because to them, carbs really are the enemy and their body just doesn't respond the same way as someone without diabetes.6 -
IMO..Low Carb/ Keto etc..has simply become the latest craze..the latest fad..
I get sick of reading about it with all the baloney that's tossed out with it.
It's the best way to lose weight. It's THE ONLY thing that works for me. It's scientific. When I achieve the bliss that is in my ketogenic state..blah blah blah..
Baloney. (and I don't mean baloney as in..it doesn't work..simply baloney in all the crap associated with reading about it)
It works for some people..and hey..whatever works for a person is fantastic. But Low Carb works because of CICO. and a person is most likely exercising in some fashion.
In the end..it's simply tiresome to read.
Weight Loss is not rocket science. There are many ways to achieve your goals. So, whatever path you choose..great. The reason many paths fail, is people choose something and then they do not sustain it over time.
That's why "diets" fail. Make it a lifestyle change. A healthy balance of a good diet and exercise.
I am diabetic. I am on NO meds. My Dr. never once mentioned go low carbs (to either lose weight, or help watch my diabetes.) He simply said.. "Put On Your Shoes" Meaning ..Lose weight. Get active. Do something.Do anything.
"Put On Your Shoes" It stuck with me. I have lost 70+ pounds since March 1st this year. All my tests were great on my most recent Dr. Visit.
In the end..Keep things simple is my motto.
Just My Opinon
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Moderately low carb (100 - 125), higher protein works for me. And to stay on point in the question that was asked, I do not detest low carb diets. I have tried it, it was horrible for me and I detested getting through the carb flu, how it may be feel even after that was over, not being able to exercise and perform well, so I guess I wussed out after a couple of months. Found a happy medium.
What works for you and is sustainable to you, your lifestyle, exercise and being sane is all that matters.2 -
it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.1
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speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
Sigh.... You say it's a personal preference but then call a basic macronutrient "poison."
This is why people get frustrated with the wild claims about low carb, and the bashing of diets which don't reduce them...
Thanks for making the point for all of us in the thread...29 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
Here's a good reason I don't like low carb diets. The dieters can be pretty smug and full of bro-science when talking about low carb.
If low carb works for you, good on you, just don't poop on my way of eating and insisting I'm "poisoning" myself by eating high carbs (250 g).24 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »
You will find other diets that circulate similarly ridiculous claims get the same amount of criticism like Paleo, vegan, gluten free, restricting certain foods...etc
I would put IF in there, too, as I seem to notice a lot more evangelicals in that camp lately than clean eaters. Even people I work with have hopped on the IF train and it's all I hear about some days..
I love when people find a great strategy that works for them, and I get that they want to share it with others. There are times when I am highly active, though, and low carb would not work for me personally for that reason. I would binge like there is no tomorrow.
I don't have anything personally against low carb, though...just that it's not the magic bullet to weight loss that people seem to make it out to be.2 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
So you deliberately ingest a certain amount of "poison" when you are trying to lean out? And presumably more when you aren't?
It's all personal preference but other people are taking in vast amounts of poison?
Can't you see how totally illogical and emotive your statements are?
(Better not respond to the "designed" bit, that would be mixing two religions in one thread.....)11 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
Are you trying to equate all carbs with the amount of "sugar" we consume? In your statement above : quoting "Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of ( "sure") we normally consume?
What are you saying?0 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »
You will find other diets that circulate similarly ridiculous claims get the same amount of criticism like Paleo, vegan, gluten free, restricting certain foods...etc
I would put IF in there, too, as I seem to notice a lot more evangelicals in that camp lately than clean eaters. Even people I work with have hopped on the IF train and it's all I hear about some days..
I love when people find a great strategy that works for them, and I get that they want to share it with others. There are times when I am highly active, though, and low carb would not work for me personally for that reason. I would binge like there is no tomorrow.
I don't have anything personally against low carb, though...just that it's not the magic bullet to weight loss that people seem to make it out to be.
Yep, I will lump IF with these although on these forums the IF folk seem a bit more moderate than most I know in real life, and realize it's a tool that facilitates moderating calories. Some people who do IF put a halo on it with a bunch of rediculous claims. I personally practice IF sometimes, not because it's some kind of medical miracle, but because it makes dieting easier for me. Nothing more to it. Same goes for any diet any person finds sustainable.1 -
Colorscheme wrote: »I detest any kind of diet that restricts food groups. That said, everyone is different and reacts differently to different diets. What works for you wouldn't necessarily work for me. And what works for me is eating foods I love, like bread and pasta. I just do so within my goals.
Technically, by the numbers, I eat low carb most days, between 110-130g. I don't consider myself low carb because it's unintentional at best. I eat what I want/planned, doesn't matter what it is as long as it fits my calorie goal. Last night I had pizza and pancakes (not together) and actually hit my 40% carb macro, which I usually don't. I do always hit my protein and fat goals (30% each).
While I agree with you, I think low carb is appropriate for type 2 diabetics or IR folk because to them, carbs really are the enemy and their body just doesn't respond the same way as someone without diabetes.
Exactly. Eating low carb is necessary for some people for medical reasons, just like gluten free is necessary for some people for medical reasons.2 -
SeptemberFeyre wrote: »Low carb has helped my Dad lose a lot of weight, and was prescribed by his dr and several other docs I know of for patients needing to lose weight. That being said, I tried it once and found it really hard to stick to because of the limitations. I found it didn't help me any more than CICO, but just the opposite happened with my hubby and oldest daughter, it worked better for them. Different strokes for different folks
see? That's what I mean ...that phrase ...just gets my goat when one appreciates how little the vast majority of primary care physicians know about nutrition and weight loss and how many people use that line as a "call to authority" without realising that it's a logical fallacy
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