ATKINS

MoniMadnezz · September 2016

Have any of you ever did the ATKINS meal plan..I have and didn't like it.. Did you guys like it? Tell me your thoughts on it! Did consuming low carbs help you lose weight??

chapiano · September 2016

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

pdm3547 · September 2016

Unsustainable and unhealthy.

zyxst · September 2016

I looked at the book since my ILs were following it at one point. No breads of any kind for the first 2 weeks iirc. No thanks.

CipherZero · September 2016

Buddy of mine does it and maintained well as long as he stayed on it. Blood numbers were fantastical as well across the board.

DeficitDuchess · September 2016

CipherZero wrote: »

Buddy of mine does it and maintained well as long as he stayed on it. Blood numbers were fantastical as well across the board.

There lies the problem, with diets; they aren't sustainable!

So I always ask anyone, when they begin a diet: What're you going to do, when you regain; the weight? The diet again? You desire to be on a diet, for the duration; of your life? I then explain that being on a diet, is like touching a hot stove. Sure at 1st, you didn't know better; until you got burnt but once you got burnt, you should've learned to avoid the consequences; by not touching it again.

They say: Oh but it wasn't the same diet, that I did previously; it's a different 1.

I say: That's no different, than touching a hot General Electric stove & then a hot Whirlpool stove. They're different stoves but the consequences're still, the same!

lemurcat12 · September 2016

Some like it, some don't. Like many other ways of eating it can be done in healthier and less healthy ways. Wouldn't work for me.

MoniMadnezz · September 2016

The meal plan effects people's bodies distance for instance low carbs may work for you, but what affects my body the most is sugar weight wise... And yes I did lose a few pounds from it but it's just not for me... Especially the fake sugar after taste with the products I couldn't deal with it.....

nvmomketo · September 2016

I've eaten low carb for quite a while, usually like phase 1 Atkins but with some dairy and without any carb substitute products (just naturally low carb foods). I lost 40 lbs in 5 months, and maintained that for over 6 months. It is very doable and healthy if you like the foods and choose wholesome foods. It is not unhealthy or dangerous, or IMO, awful or unsustainable.

MoniMadnezz · September 2016

*different

xmichaelyx · September 2016

chapiano wrote: »

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

BS. I did it for 3 months (I've tried lots of different things for 3-6 months, because to me, if you do something for less than 3 months, you haven't even tried it).

It sucks for 3 days and then is easy because you never get hungry. I felt pretty great all the time, energy-wise. My biggest issue was that eating that much meat became expensive. Also, I was going on a week long backpacking trip, and there's no easy way to eat low-carb under those circumstances.

People think it's bad because you're eating nothing but fat and protein (basically meat and butter). Those people are imbeciles. In real life, you're eating tons of green vegetables. From a micronutrient perspective, my diet was probably better on Atkins then at any other time in my life.

Overall, I liked it. My bloodwork was great. But I like alcohol too much to sustain it for very long. Also, I go through periods of bulking, and getting enough calories to gain weight wasn't easy without carbs.

Alluminati · September 2016

I did it on and off for a few months and lost about 10 pounds but I liked bread, pasta, and rice too much to stick to it long term. I felt ok during the diet itself, besides feeling deprived which was more emotional. Moderation and counting calories makes more sense for me long term and i have lost 50 lbs that way.

Sabine_Stroehm · September 2016

chapiano wrote: »

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

FALSE

chapiano · September 2016

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

chapiano wrote: »

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

FALSE

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Sabine_Stroehm · September 2016

chapiano wrote: »

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

chapiano wrote: »

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

FALSE

TRUE

No, actually, it's not "dangerous". Lots of evidence to support that.

nvmomketo · September 2016

chapiano wrote: »

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

chapiano wrote: »

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

FALSE

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In what way? How do you think eating a meat and vegetables based diet is dangerous?

Sabine_Stroehm · September 2016

nvmomketo wrote: »

chapiano wrote: »

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

chapiano wrote: »

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

FALSE

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In what way? How do you think eating a meat and vegetables based diet is dangerous?

Protein and veg, man, scary stuff!

nvmomketo · September 2016

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

chapiano wrote: »

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

chapiano wrote: »

It's an awful, dangerous diet.

FALSE

TRUE

In what way? How do you think eating a meat and vegetables based diet is dangerous?

Protein and veg, man, scary stuff!

LOL
I hope he responds. I am curious what he thinks the problem is.

MoniMadnezz · September 2016

So many opinions.. I love it lol!

KetoneKaren · September 2016

Atkins is not dangerous. It's just another way of eating. As far as being sustainable, Atkins is sustainable for people who feel better on a low carb food plan. Low carb plans are especially effective for people with PCOS and DM.

arditarose · September 2016

What's up with Atkins anyway? If you do it correctly would you go into ketosis?

lemurcat12 · September 2016

First phase, I believe. The maintenance phase allows for more carbs depending on the person.

arditarose · September 2016

I don't know. I have no problem with LCHF but I believe you should understand what you're doing in terms of calories and tracking macros by gram. It seems like it'd be way easier to go into maintenance if you understand what that really means, rather than just cutting carbs willy nilly.

Sabine_Stroehm · September 2016

arditarose wrote: »

I don't know. I have no problem with LCHF but I believe you should understand what you're doing in terms of calories and tracking macros by gram. It seems like it'd be way easier to go into maintenance if you understand what that really means, rather than just cutting carbs willy nilly.

Absolutely. I suspect some of the disdain of former low carbers has to do with the fact that they went headlong into low carbing without doing their homework, and, if they lost the weight they wanted, without having a plan for maintenance...Atkins gives one a plan for losing weight and for maintaining weight. I wonder how many folks followed through with the whole plan...

snowflake930 · September 2016

For me personally, not sustainable.
Long term sustainability for me. All foods in moderation. No transitioning to maintenance.
34 months on maintenance @ less than 1/2 of my starting body weight. Works for me so far.

amusedmonkey · September 2016

The allowed menu is the exact opposite of what I like, but some people like that kind of food. It doesn't matter, really. In the end it's all about calories and finding ways to manage them.

ndj1979 · September 2016

probably one of the worst tools to create a calorie deficit, but if you want to go that route, then knock yourself out. Just don't trick yourself into believing that it is some magical fat burning diet that is superior to normal macros and calorie deficit...

chapiano · September 2016

I wonder, did you know Dr Atkins was obese when he died? And suffered numerous heart attacks and heart problems? It seems many of these sources are from the UK which may be a factor but;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-192106/Official-Atkins-health-risk.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics

http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/

http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/you-need-to-eat-carbs

http://www.livestrong.com/article/414187-why-do-we-need-carbohydrates-in-our-diet/

Sabine_Stroehm · September 2016

chapiano wrote: »

I wonder, did you know Dr Atkins was obese when he died? And suffered numerous heart attacks and heart problems? It seems many of these sources are from the UK which may be a factor but;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-192106/Official-Atkins-health-risk.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics

http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/

http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/you-need-to-eat-carbs

http://www.livestrong.com/article/414187-why-do-we-need-carbohydrates-in-our-diet/

Links. Got it.
Shall we post some too?
Perhaps more links to actual science...

Need2Exerc1se · September 2016

I don't believe the diet is unhealthy if followed correctly. I've known several people who have lost weight on it, only one that has kept it off (for about 15 years now).

nvmomketo · September 2016

chapiano wrote: »

I wonder, did you know Dr Atkins was obese when he died? And suffered numerous heart attacks and heart problems? It seems many of these sources are from the UK which may be a factor but;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-192106/Official-Atkins-health-risk.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics

http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/

http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/you-need-to-eat-carbs

http://www.livestrong.com/article/414187-why-do-we-need-carbohydrates-in-our-diet/

Hmm. You even quoted a Reader's Digest Article.

These articles are based on past food myths, misperceptions, woo, and some information that is just plain wrong.

Here's a summary of few LCHF studies to start with:
https://authoritynutrition.com/23-studies-on-low-carb-and-low-fat-diets/

This was interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo

The New Atkins Diet was written by Westman and Phinney. Both are nutritional scientists. It isn't an extreme diet by any means.

And Atkins may have been slightly overweight when he died from a head injury. It does not appear that he was obese. He was also still working as a doctor a few days per week, travelling, and walking the city often. Not bad for your 70s.

It appears he did have some heart issues but so what? Atkins does not claim to cure all heart disease. Perhaps he would have died decades earlier without eating the way he did. Who knows.

Everybody dies of something. All we can do is hope to find the diet that pushes that eventuality back a few extra years. A decade or so if we get lucky too.

ATKINS

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