September (2016) Running Challenge
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@5512bf Thank you.
@Stoshew71 I certainly didn't run it fast, but I'm pretty sure I bit off more than I can chew on it. I have a feeling it was too much too soon. My DOMS didn't last as long as I thought they would either, so I thought I had recovered quite quickly, but I guess not. Lesson learned.0 -
@TattooedDolphinGirl78 Happy BDay!
From a newer runner's perspective: I find that it hurts more if I sit a lot for the rest of the day after the long run (20 km is about the longest distance I run)
@WhatMeRunning @Azercord @5512bf and @Stoshew71 I appreciate the information too.
Also, I wonder if it was something psychological - like we suddenly found ourselves lost the motivation after achieving something. I guess I am talking about myself... Finished a half marathon race >2 weeks ago and haven't run a long run since...
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mom3over40 wrote: »Also, I wonder if it was something psychological - like we suddenly found ourselves lost the motivation after achieving something. I guess I am talking about myself... Finished a half marathon race >2 weeks ago and haven't run a long run since...
That is not uncommon. I ran my last Marathon in October, and really didn't do any real volume of running for several months. I didn't go past 10 miles until February and maybe only ran 3-4 times a week for general fitness for 3 months. Having that date circled on a calendar is motivation to put in the work. I'm trying to force myself to register for several races in November and December to keep up with my training where i just didn't have the motivation to get back to work last year. I was easily able to bounce back to 40-50 mile weeks in February of this year once I made that commitment to a May half/ Oct full.
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@TattooedDolphinGirl78 - Happy Birthday! It's my birthday, too!2
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@TattooedDolphinGirl78 - Happy Birthday! It's my birthday, too!
Birthday buddies!!!
Happy Birthday!!! 
<-- since I couldn't find a cake alternative. 
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That is not uncommon. I ran my last Marathon in October, and really didn't do any real volume of running for several months. I didn't go past 10 miles until February and maybe only ran 3-4 times a week for general fitness for 3 months. Having that date circled on a calendar is motivation to put in the work. I'm trying to force myself to register for several races in November and December to keep up with my training where i just didn't have the motivation to get back to work last year. I was easily able to bounce back to 40-50 mile weeks in February of this year once I made that commitment to a May half/ Oct full.
Guilty here too. After my full in May, my miles plummeted. Partly due to injury, partly due to different priorities for the summer, but a large part was also motivation. I don't think that's a bad thing either. Taking a bit of a break, even if not a complete break, is good for the body.
Now that I have an ultra on my calendar, my motivation is quickly ramping up and I need to be careful with that.
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9/1 -- 3.25 miles
9/5 -- 6.25 miles
9/6 -- 3 miles
9/8 -- 5.1 miles
17.6/50
Feeling pretty on track now and not as much discomfort as I often have. Typically when I run 2 days in a row my hip lets me know I shouldn't have (I think this is an extension of the bad back which can cause muscles around my hip to overcompensate) but so far so good. Had some soreness in my shin that might be shin splints, but it faded after the first mile and a half or so and didn't recur and still hasn't. So probably nothing there.
If I keep on the schedule I'm on I should actually beat my goal pretty handily, but we'll see. Next run will be Sat 9/10, and Sunday I'll do a speed trial and see if I can get closer to that elusive 8 minute mile.1 -
9/1 13 mile run
9/2 off day
9/3 23 mile run
9/4 off day
9/5 10 mile run
9/6 15 mile run
9/7 11.4 mile run
9/8 20 mile run3 -
Date Miles today - Miles for September
9/1 9 miles - 9
9/2 5 miles - 14
9/3 18 miles - 32
9/4 REST DAY
9/5 10.5 miles - 42.5
9/6 9 miles - 51.5
9/7 6.2 miles - 57.7
9/8 10 miles - 67.7
9/8 6.2 miles - 73.9 << Daily Double
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
Huntsville Half Marathon - 11/12
Rocket City Marathon - 12/10
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mom3over40 wrote: »Also, I wonder if it was something psychological - like we suddenly found ourselves lost the motivation after achieving something. I guess I am talking about myself... Finished a half marathon race >2 weeks ago and haven't run a long run since...
That is not uncommon. I ran my last Marathon in October, and really didn't do any real volume of running for several months. I didn't go past 10 miles until February and maybe only ran 3-4 times a week for general fitness for 3 months. Having that date circled on a calendar is motivation to put in the work. I'm trying to force myself to register for several races in November and December to keep up with my training where i just didn't have the motivation to get back to work last year. I was easily able to bounce back to 40-50 mile weeks in February of this year once I made that commitment to a May half/ Oct full.
Ditto. I have found that the more effort I put into my training, the longer my "recovery" period post race. I generally take a week off entirely after a marathon and then I spend the next few months just rekindling my love for running without any type of training requirements. This generally ends up being 25-30 miles per week of easy, enjoyable running. After a few months, the bug starts to hit me that tells me that I need some type of focus for my running and then I set my next goal.2 -
@lporter229 @mom3over40 @5512bf I organize my training blocks in 24 weeks from now on. Means I get to have 2 of them in one year which keeps me busy. After a key race like after I recover I jump straight back into base building for one or two months until I get close (12-18 weeks) to another key race. I find it keeps me going to have a long term goal. So far I have 2017 planned already. I think this is also how serious runners do it. They split the year into two and have 6 months blocks that include base building, training, racing and recovery. I plan to always take a few weeks break after any key race, so about 2 times per year where I run really low easy mileage just to give my body a chance to heal better from all that abuse I put it through
Date.....Distance..Type/min/km
September 1 - 12.8km - Tempo&Reps/4:20, 3:30
September 2 - 7.7 km - Easy/6:00
September 3 - 6.1 km - Easy/6:30
September 4 - 17.2km - MP/4:35
September 5 - rest
September 6 - 8.0 km - Easy/6:05
September 7 - 8.9 km - Easy/5:40
September 8 - 17.2km - Tempo/4:25
03/04: Bucharest 10k and Family run 48:28
16/04: Color Run Bucharest
17/04: Forest Run 5k 22:05
04/06: Happy Run 5k 21:57
22/07: Bucharest After9Cross 9.5k 49:03
28/08: Fox Trail Half Marathon (10k) 48:28
18/09: Baneasa Trail Run (10k)
09/10: Bucharest International Marathon (Half Debut)2 -
Happy Birthday @TattooedDolphinGirl78 and @karllundy! Hope you both have a great day.
@skippygirlsmom Glad to hear you made some progress getting answers from the doctors. I hope your Mum recovers well.
@kristinegift Congrats on your thesis defence being over and done with. That's annoying about the paperwork though. Did it get sorted in the end?
So, today I headed out to run with no real distance in mind. My plan said 4 miles, but I also had missed my 10 miler last Sunday due to illness, so I wasn't really too bothered how far I ran. But I was tired, I have been all day (I agree with @MNLittleFinn, the first week of term in a Special Ed school is a whole new level of busy!), and to be honest my new job is proving to be a lot harder than I thought it would be so I'm incredibly stressed - It's been 5 years since I worked in a school like this and I thought it would all come flooding back to me, but it's proving to be a very steep learning curve for me. Anyway, at the 2 mile mark, I decided that I needed to feel like I had achieved something. It sounds silly, but I thought that if I could run 10 miles today, being so, SO tired, less than a week after being sick and after the day/week I've had, that I could do anything. So I did. It wasn't even too much of a slog, I had to stop a few times to stretch out but otherwise it was exactly what I needed to sort my head out and calm my anxiety
1st-4th - Poorlysick
5th - 3.53 miles
6th - 4.06 miles
8th - 10.02 miles
MTD - 17.61/70 miles
Upcoming races:
18th Sept - Run Reigate Half Marathon
2nd Oct - Tonbridge Half Marathon
30th Oct - River Thames Half Marathon
17th Dec - Lee Valley VeloPark Half Marathon
9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon7 -
Date Miles MTD ------ ----- ------- Sep 1 0.0 0.0 Sep 2 6.5 6.5 Sep 3 4.3 10.8 Sep 4 5.1 15.9 Sep 6 4.3 20.2 Sep 8 5.1 25.3
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@TattooedDolphinGirl78 - Lots of good comments on recovery already. I'd add that you want to be more conservative about recovery from any run that is either a new distance record for you, or equal to the longest you've ever run. At least, be conservative until you've done enough runs like that to be familiar with how you recover.
As others note, it may also depend on how hard you've been training in general. A 20K run at the end of week with peak running distance will need more recovery than a 20K run at the end of a week with average running distance. "Peak" and "average" here refer to your training history, not any book standard. How much of the weekly distance has been run hard may also be a factor. A 5K at race pace beats you up much more than a 5K easy run, and if that long run is in a week when you also raced you will likely need more recovery than if it is in a week where you didn't race and didn't do any strenuous speed work.2 -
August Running Totals (miles)
9/1 – 10.07 warmup + tempo intervals
9/2 – 7.76 partial course preview
9/3 – 3.80 easy 30 minutes
9/4 – 15.44 warmup + Oak Tree Half
9/5 – 4.52 easy 30 minutes + 4 strides
9/6 – 6.72 warmup + speed work
9/7 – 4.04 easy
9/8 – 7.18 warmup + intervals
September total to date – 59.53
Nominal Challenge Goal – 200 miles
Real Goals: Manage Rochester Marathon well as a race, recover quickly.
Today's notes – The recent theme here seems to be injuries, recovery, and injury prevention. Today may be illustrative. The marathon training plan assignment was 30 minutes easy, 20 minutes MP, 30 minutes easy. After my 2 mile warmup and the general club meeting, I talked to Coach. Told him what the assignment was, told him I thought I could do it but I wasn't sure it was wise in light of having run a half marathon rather hard last Sunday. He told me to cut it in half - 15 minutes easy, 10 minutes MP, 15 minutes easy. So that's what I did.
I ended up feeling like I had a reasonable workout, and not burned out. That's why I have a coach; sometimes I need an outside opinion about what the smart thing to do is. Since my coach is the guy who wrote the training plan, and he has a ton of experience with athletes training for multiple races on a variety of schedules, he can come up with an appropriate adjustment to the plan really quickly. Then that adjustment turns out to be just the thing I need.
I've now run 9 days in a row. Tomorrow will be a rest day. The plan has the option to run 30 minutes, but I'm supposed to be in mid-taper. I need the rest more than the miles. I don't need Coach to tell me this, I can figure this one out on my own.
2016 races:
January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:31:11
August 13, 2016 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY) finished in 19:07 (5K PR)
September 4, 2016 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:31:37
September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
October 2, 2016 USATF Masters 5K Championship (Syracuse, NY)
October 15, 2016 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY)
October 22, 2016 Scare Brain Cancer Away 5K (East Rochester, NY)
November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
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Thank you all for the great tips and advice! I truly appreciate it!0
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@sparklyglitterbomb - nice job so far and congrats on the new fastest mile/average pace! I like the #teamsnail too XD keep it up and you'll have to change it to #teamcheetah!
Happy birthday @TattooedDolphinGirl78 and @karllundy !!
I'm not sure if it was the walking or elliptical yesterday, but I woke up this morning and could feel a little something in my shin. Not pain or tenderness, I was just aware of it, if that makes sense. Decided to play things extra safe and skip the gym today. This way my legs will be extra fresh for tomorrow when I attack that bike again
8/06: bike- 5 min easy, 10x(2 min hard/1 min easy), 5 min easy + core
8/07: 30 min steady state, elliptical + 6.5 min walk (3.4 mph) + core2 -
9/1 3.0 mi (6mph avg, fastest in months)
9/4 5.1 mi
9/5 3.2 mi (sprints)
9/7 3.1 mi
9/9 3.2 mi
Goal: 50 mi
Total: 17.6 mi
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@KatieJane83 Thanks for the link! Love the look of that bridge.
@5512bf What's the reasoning behind pausing your timer on breaks? I rarely do, because I think it counts as part of the run time, since it's giving you a rest and a boost, and if you paused, it would artificially better your time.
Not calling you out. I'm hoping others will chime in too.
I'm sure there's more for me to learn on the topic. Cheers.1 -
9/8: 3.29 miles
A much needed and great run tonight. I was a ball of stress from work and getting ready to go out of town tomorrow morning. My long-lost run buddy who has been out of town was finally back and since I'm about to leave we ran tonight as our chance to catch up. We had a ton to talk about so the whole thing went quickly and felt great. In fact we had planned only 30 minutes but didn't turn around soon enough because we were so busy talking that we ended up with a 42 minute run. It got really dark at the end and was not a great choice on the trail so lesson learned there. Seems like sunset is getting earlier at a scarily fast rate.
Heading to Boston tomorrow. It's supposed to be 90 degrees there tomorrow but then get a lot cooler over the weekend. Hopefully the forecast chance for rain/thunderstorms over the weekend will be minimal. I am bringing more running clothes than clothes for my work meeting - priorities!
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9/1: 4.3 miles
9/2: Rest day
9/3: 9.4 miles
9/4: 5.7 miles
9/5: 6 miles
9/6: 6 miles
9/7: Rest day 4 miles
9/8: 3.2 miles with Thursday crew!
Great group run tonight! It was a Pub run, and I'm tapering, so I did one loop (in 90+ degree weather, ugh!) and then headed right to the bar for a nice hefeweisen and a giant burger. Hung out at the running store for an hour before the run and at the bar for another 3-4 hours because my house has no AC and the overnights are still in the 70s this week. This can be filed under #1 reason I can't wait for fall to arrive! At this point I may be more excited about my race this weekend because it means I'm sleeping in an air-conditioned hotel room, more than I'm excited about the race itself!
@louubelle16 It did get sorted, mostly. He said the dept admin will sign FOR him and email me the signed scan tomorrow (still three days late... ugh). Which means a third day in a row of going to work early & leaving early, but this time actually having errands to run when I get home at 10-to-4. Way to wait til the last minute! I am going to be turning in my forms as people leave their offices on a Friday. Grrrrrrr.
Upcoming Races:
9/11: Lehigh Valley Health Network Via Half-Marathon
10/8: Coe College Homecoming 5k
10/16: Halloween Half-Marathon
11/20: Philadelphia Marathon
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@dianefogel1 That's what we call Great Progress. From a 5 min Struggle to a 20 min Cruiser. The Bad-Good News You are addicted to running - it shows in the
dianefogel1 wrote: »Missed my run or even a walk yesterday because I was running in other ways all day long! I felt like something was missing!
@RespectTheKitty - A Finger is tough as it always seems to find something to Hook on or Bang into. Hope it Doesn't Hurt. If you have to protect it buy a cheap Finger Splint from a Drug Store/Pharmacy and if anyone asks - Just Smile and Wink then walk away.
@mbaker566 Glad to see you getting some Quality Shoe Time in.
Happy Birthday @TattooedDolphinGirl78 and @karllundy! Have a great day.
@TattooedDolphinGirl78 I have nothing to add about Recovery Time after a new PB Distance. Good Job BTW.
All I can say is don't copy me. After my HM in April the Gang I was with went out for a little Hike in the Mountains 8-10km and then I went Downhill skiing for 2 days. Not your normal Rest Recovery plan.2 -
I was driving from Job site to Job Site all day so didn't get back home until just after 8:00pm.
Threw the running gear on and took off. Pretty much a duplicate of my last 2 Run's with the caveat that I did not take into consideration that the Sun was setting when I left home so before I got to my first turn at km 3 I was running in the dark - of course my 2 Running Headlamps were both Safely Hanging on the Coat Hooks beside my backdoor. Parts of the Trail have lots of tree cover so they were pitch black. Lots of the Trail receives light from the backside of the Streetlights spilling through the trees. So it was a bit of a challenge / test of trail confidence.
8 km Along the Riverbank Trails. Managed to throw in some Fartlek Speed sessions on the return loop.
1 Streetlight Cruising, 1 Streetlight Flying 75% perceived effort
1 Streetlight Cruising, 2 Streetlights Flying 85%
1 streetlight Cruising, 2 streetlights Flying 100%
Then 3 cycles alternating between 1/1 @ 75% and 1/2 @ 100%
Finished hard on 2@100% and felt like I still had Juice in the tank.
Knocked a minute off my Tuesday night Time, close enough to my previous PB of 5:29/km that I am
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09/01 – 0.0 km – 0.0 - 140 km – YTD 842.7 km
09/04 – 8.0 km – 8.0 – 132.0 km
09/06 – 8.0 km – 16.0 – 126.0 km – YTD 858.7 km 45:50 ~ 5:44/km.
09/08 – 8.0 km – 24.0 – 118.0 km – YTD 866.7 km 44:37 ~ 5:34/km.
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Happy Birthday @TattooedDolphinGirl78 and @karllundy! Hope you both have a great day! The 7th was my daughter's birthday!
@ariceroni - we have a very good friend with a PhD in Bio Physics who is now a professor in No Carolina. Let me know if you need any help/advice.
I had a really good run today considering I had a terrible cramp in my calf (stepping off a curb!) not long after I started. I rubbed it out, stretched a bit and got the run in. Stretched and rolled when I got home but after sitting in a meeting for an hour, it was incredibly sore. I wore my Skoras with the least mileage on them but still nearly 600 miles, coincidence? I don't know but my heel is very sore again too. It is clear I need new shoes and cannot wear the Skoras any longer
Had training tonight and focused on upper body since my leg is still so sore. I will roll it out as instructed but I am SO angry with myself for letting it get to this point. On top of all of this I ordered my new shoes and accidentally sent them to my daughter in Seattle (last address used). I wanted to get a decent run in them before my HM on the 18th but with them being in Seattle and my travel now to Florida it will be impossible. My husband's reaction to my dilemma - 'just go buy some new running shoes'. Guess I will be hitting the running store tomorrow (don't need to tell me twice!) ! I also may need new sunglasses - mine have these weird tiny bubbles all over them making it difficult to see. Hoping I can just get some new lenses for them.
Date.........Miles........Total
09/01.......5.23.........5.23 + Strength training and Rally
09/02.......4.67.........9.90 - SLOG Run
09/03.......0.00.........9.90 - Rest
09/04.....13.87.......23.77
09/05.......5.75.......29.52 - Recovery because it was too lovely out not to go.
09/06.......4.39.......33.91 + Strength training
09/07.......0.00.......33.91 - Rest
09/08.......5.32.......39.23 + Strength training and Rally
Upcoming Races - Let me know if you will be running too!
02/07/16 - Surf City Half Marathon
02/20/16 - Divas Half Marathon - Temecula
07/04/16 - SHEPower Virtual Half Marathon
07/31/16 - San Francisco 2nd Half Marathon
08/21/16 - Tiki Beach 10k, Huntington Beach
09/18/16 - Beat the Blerch Half Marathon, Seattle
11/19/16 - USA Invitational Half Marathon (Yay, I qualified again!)
12/18/16 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon
02/05/17 - Surf City Half Marathon2 -
Do treadmill runs count?? I always feel like I'm cheating on the treadmill, even though ironically I find it harder than running outside!
1 September 5.2km
6 September 6.2km
9 September 5.3km treadmill due to pouring rain!
Total 16.7km
Goal 40km1 -
[img]9/8: 2.34 miles. Post run yoga
Feeling good, except for a pain in my right calf.
I wear compression sleeves during and after my run, helps while running, but, a few hours after, the pain is back.
Next run: Saturday.[/img] 0 -
Why does my whole post end up in one big paragraph? When I space it out in different paragraph. I'm a bit ocd about things like that
Actually, I'm ocd about a lot of things0 -
Do treadmill runs count?? I always feel like I'm cheating on the treadmill, even though ironically I find it harder than running outside!
1 September 5.2km
6 September 6.2km
9 September 5.3km treadmill due to pouring rain!
Total 16.7km
Goal 40km
Treadmill runs absolutely count! Good for you for slogging it out on the dreadmill. I find it harder too, but it does keep my pace steady.1 -
I'm glad that I found this group! I'm in for 35 this month. I started running in 2009 at age 49. I ran for several years, then stopped for no good reason in 2014. After a few false starts, I'm back to running again. I'm not quite to 10 miles a week again. My long runs have been 4 miles, but I'm ready to bump that again. I want to run at least one half in 2017, and try for my first full in late 2017, or early 2018.5
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I can't believe the temps have gone down slightly in Florida this week. It's been great running and it makes me hopeful that the weather will be cooler this winter!
Biking weekend for me so my run miles will suffer a little.
9/1 - 4.8 miles
9/2 - strength training
9/3 - 34 miles biking
9/4 - 100 KM biking (63 miles).
9/5 - 45 miles biking
9/6 - 4 miles run + Strength training
9/7 - 5.1 miles
9/8 - rest day (actually avoiding trash day and potential bears)
9/9 - 5.0 miles
Upcoming races
2/5/17 - Daytona Beach HM
2/26/17 - Disney Princess HM Orlando
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