Unhealthy foods
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Knightride48 wrote: »Need help deciding because the canned salmon has too much sodium. Is it better to eat Publix fried unbreaded chicken wings or 340 cal lasagna?
No one food is healthy or unhealthy, it is the total diet that matters. Eat a wide range of veggies, proteins and healthy fats then you can fill in the rest of your calories with anything you like. A beer or ice-cream etc.
And sodium isn't a problem as long as you don't have any medical conditions that mean you should limit it.1 -
kommodevaran wrote: »sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
As much as I detest hipsters, I prefer hipsterism over anti-intellectualism any day.
Agreed. Luckily, none of the answers seem particularly hipster!
Perhaps some respondents don't know what hipsters are. ;-)4 -
Eat what you like. Just make sure to account for the calories.
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Such a vague response for someone so qualified. Judging by the OPs question, clearly it's early days for them on this road to great health and vitality. Yes calories are king, however nutritional value cannot be overlooked. OP or other newbies casually scrolling could easily misinterpret your comment.3 -
Based on the OPs previous posts, I'm not 100% sure they are a newbie.BodyzLanguage wrote: »Eat what you like. Just make sure to account for the calories.
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Such a vague response for someone so qualified. Judging by the OPs question, clearly it's early days for them on this road to great health and vitality. Yes calories are king, however nutritional value cannot be overlooked. OP or other newbies casually scrolling could easily misinterpret your comment.
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Knightride48 wrote: »sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
What about beans?
That is a good point. In most stores there are plenty of nutritious foods that are not on the outer wall like beans, oatmeal, frozen vegetables, frozen fish, flour and plenty of processed foods on the outer wall like sausage, lunchmeats, cheese, baked goods, chips, drinks. Not really a great guide to just say shop the outer wall.
Just log a food and see if it fits your goals. If you are trying to lower sodium buy low sodium versions or cook your own.0 -
sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
I see booze, ice cream, butter....YAY
Hipster comments, huh? Telling people what not to eat isn't?
Avoid all processed foods...coconut oil is processed. Oils are processed. Greek yogurt, too.
No thanks. I'll eat what I like and not tell others to not eat certain foods because it's none of my business.
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Knightride48 wrote: »sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
What about beans?
and canned fruits and vegetables.. sauces.. beans, grains, pastas... and everything else. like said above the outer wall of the store has the donuts and the fancy cheese section. yes please0 -
Not that this really matters. But the outer perimeter of the grocery stores here are
Fruit and veggies
Dairy
Bakery
Cleaning products
Cereals could be in isle 1 or 5 depending where you shop. Coffee ,tea, cookies, chocolate are usually in isle 1 or 2. No booze in Aussie supermarkets.0 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
Good call. In my supermarket, that's where the doughnuts and cookies are, as well as the bacon..
I'd pick the lasagna, anyway, just cause I'm not a fan of canned fish. Either that or just have the McDonald's french fries, if they're lower in sodium.
Actually, now that I think of it, all of the sodas are on the outer perimeter of my grocery store as well. Forgot about the ice cream, too, and the Lean Cuisines...that's a win all the way around.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Not that this really matters. But the outer perimeter of the grocery stores here are
Fruit and veggies
Dairy
Bakery
Cleaning products
Cereals could be in isle 1 or 5 depending where you shop. Coffee ,tea, cookies, chocolate are usually in isle 1 or 2. No booze in Aussie supermarkets.
Oh forgot about meat, this is always on the outer perimetre, usually next to the fruit n veg.
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Avoid nails, tree bark, brightly colored frogs, lawn chairs, tires and toadstools. These are unhealthy foods.
Oh, and those colorful little swords in some mixed drinks should be avoided too. They are not candy.10 -
The outside perimeter of my supermarket gets me bakery, cheeses, deli, fish, meat, butter, more cheese, milk, ready meals, fresh pasta, eggs, ice cream and toys.
Sounds good.1 -
In my mainstream grocery (also a pharmacy) there's now a section in the middle that you see when you come in for fruits and veg (it's a lovely section, but not on the perimeter). So the ridiculous advice about the perimeter gets you (going clockwise): donuts and other pastries, breads, deli meats and prepared salads, better cheeses, dips, and party platters, fish counter, meat, pop, dairy and eggs and pasta that need to be kept cold (like various sorts of ravioli), some cookie dough and yogurt of all sorts, tofu and soy-based products that need to be chilled, misc seasonal stuff, various pharmacy things, magazines. Oh, and there are some stacks of wine on the perimeter sometimes, although the liquor section is upstairs (everything kept chilled, mainly beer, some wine) is on the perimeter up there.
You'd get a much better diet not sticking to the perimeter.
Plus, the idea that people need such simplistic advice to be able to shop is offensive and bizarre. I go into the store knowing what I want and I buy it -- rarely even notice the many other things that aren't the sorts of things I buy.1 -
If sodium is an issue, you will do worse with fried foods.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »In my mainstream grocery (also a pharmacy) there's now a section in the middle that you see when you come in for fruits and veg (it's a lovely section, but not on the perimeter). So the ridiculous advice about the perimeter gets you (going clockwise): donuts and other pastries, breads, deli meats and prepared salads, better cheeses, dips, and party platters, fish counter, meat, pop, dairy and eggs and pasta that need to be kept cold (like various sorts of ravioli), some cookie dough and yogurt of all sorts, tofu and soy-based products that need to be chilled, misc seasonal stuff, various pharmacy things, magazines. Oh, and there are some stacks of wine on the perimeter sometimes, although the liquor section is upstairs (everything kept chilled, mainly beer, some wine) is on the perimeter up there.
You'd get a much better diet not sticking to the perimeter.
Plus, the idea that people need such simplistic advice to be able to shop is offensive and bizarre. I go into the store knowing what I want and I buy it -- rarely even notice the many other things that aren't the sorts of things I buy.
I also think this advice has been bandied about so many times grocery stores have changed their layouts. The store I shop at has all the fruit and vegetables in the center of the store. It is the same nonsense as, "If you can't pronounce the ingredients, don't purchase it."2 -
sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
The outside of my store. .....clothes, pharmacy,pizza counter, bread, milk and alcohol....0 -
sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
Nope.2 -
sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
I don't usually buy canned salmon, as I prefer to buy fresh or frozen and cook it myself, then flake it if I need something for a recipe... but just curious what is bad for my health about canned salmon? Or frozen lasagna for that matter? I actually bought this at Target over the weekend to have as lunch this week since I didn't have time to meal prep. Having a hard time understanding what makes this inherently unhealthy for me?0 -
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But the lasagne and chicken wings are both on the outside wall of my supermarket, as was the pizza I just ate for dinner.
But what had the tinned salmon got to do with it? That stuff is rank by the by, tinned tuna is great though.0 -
sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
Flowers, while lovely are mostly not very tasty...the perimeter of the store thing dosent work everywhere.1 -
sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
Flowers, while lovely are mostly not very tasty...the perimeter of the store thing dosent work everywhere.
Well, at least you get flowers. I get cleaning supplies and baby necessities. Actually, that isn't half bad. I could fry with that baby oil.1 -
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Kamikazeflutterby wrote: »Is canned salmon really that much lower in sodium than hotwings and lasagna? I've got the sodium tracker on MFP just for the hell of it, and I've been surprised at some of the high sodium food. Ex. one Thomas's brand bagel has 100mg more sodium than a large serving of McDonald's fries according to MFP.
WHAT. Mind blown.0 -
sbrownallison wrote: »Lots of humor and hipster comments here. Best for overall health, however, is to avoid processed food, like canned salmon and frozen lasagna. When you enter your supermarket, turn right and traverse the outer wall of the store, avoiding the inner aisles. You will find mostly lovely and fresh foods there.
Flowers, while lovely are mostly not very tasty...the perimeter of the store thing dosent work everywhere.
There's a dessert place in my city that puts flowers on all their lovely little cakes and brownies and scones!
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Not vague. That's my response. There are no "unhealthy" foods. There are foods that are more nutritionally dense than others, but weight loss is about CICO.BodyzLanguage wrote: »Eat what you like. Just make sure to account for the calories.
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Such a vague response for someone so qualified. Judging by the OPs question, clearly it's early days for them on this road to great health and vitality. Yes calories are king, however nutritional value cannot be overlooked. OP or other newbies casually scrolling could easily misinterpret your comment.
One can lose weight on junk food if that's what they choose to eat. And while eating nutrient dense MAY help improve one's health, it's only a small portion of improving one's health overall.
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There are absolutely unheathly foods. Processed foods have so many additives which can have such an adverse impact on your health. What an unusual comment from a personal trainer. You should look up some of the ingredients in simple things like microwave popcorn! They line the bags with PFOA which is the same toxic substance used in tephlon pots and pans, and most have diacetyl has been linked to many disturbing respiratory studies. Yum! I could write a book about the many unhealthy foods.5
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There are absolutely unheathly foods. Processed foods have so many additives which can have such an adverse impact on your health. What an unusual comment from a personal trainer. You should look up some of the ingredients in simple things like microwave popcorn! They line the bags with PFOA which is the same toxic substance used in tephlon pots and pans, and most have diacetyl has been linked to many disturbing respiratory studies. Yum! I could write a book about the many unhealthy foods.
I think I would find this more concerning if I were consuming larger quantities of popcorn bags...8 -
BodyzLanguage wrote: »Eat what you like. Just make sure to account for the calories.
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Such a vague response for someone so qualified. Judging by the OPs question, clearly it's early days for them on this road to great health and vitality. Yes calories are king, however nutritional value cannot be overlooked. OP or other newbies casually scrolling could easily misinterpret your comment.
i dont agree. this is exactly what i did when i started. Its the simpliest way to get started and means you can carry on longer than if you started to eliminate loads of so called bad food.
I ate the same things as i did before just less of it. The only thing i changed was switch to zero or diet drinks.1
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