October (2016) Running Challenge
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Seems like a lot of us are numbers/data geeks! Would love to know how many here have math/stats/engineering backgrounds???
I'll start off - my degree is in mathematics with minors in computer science, chemistry and biology. I did computer performance and capacity analytics for many years...
I'd agree. I does appear that it's skewed towards data nerds. I read a statistic prob 10 years ago regarding the percentage of degreed folks that run. I can't remember where it was or exactly the numbers, but I think it was 50% or better.
Seems reasonable since so many of us use it as stress relief. If you're in management or working with an advanced degree, you probably need to run away several times a week.
I have a BS in chemistry, minor mathematics and environmental health sciences. I do did have most of a master's in industrial chemistry. But was offered a job. So I bailed and took it. Single mother with 3 kids at home, pay was just too good to pass up.1 -
Seems like a lot of us are numbers/data geeks! Would love to know how many here have math/stats/engineering backgrounds???
I'll start off - my degree is in mathematics with minors in computer science, chemistry and biology. I did computer performance and capacity analytics for many years...
Bachelors in Mathematics; MSc in Mathematics and Computer Science
I did lots of computer programming, data analysis/modelling and stats across the early years of my career but not recently so enjoying getting my teeth into running numbers. Dearly missing my now-dead Garmin that I used on the bike, so currently planning my Xmas (or black friday) present to myself to give me some more data to play with - not sure what to get though.1 -
October Running Totals (miles)
10/1 – rest day
10/2 – 0.56 test run (big mistake)
10/3 – no running day
10/4 – no running day
10/5 – no running day
10/6 – no running day
10/7 – no running day
10/8 – no running day
10/9 – no running day
10/10 –no running day
10/11 – 0.55 run/walk intervals
10/12 – rest day
10/13 – 0.56 run/walk intervals
10/14 – rest day
10/15 – rest day
10/16 – 0.85 run/walk intervals
October total to date – 2.52
Nominal Challenge Goal – no stated distance
Real Goal: Return to regular running
Today's notes gimp report – I passed on testing running intervals yesterday because the leg felt a bit off while walking, and I figured and extra rest day wouldn't hurt. Sunday morning is church, and of course the leg felt great after a totally sedentary morning. So I went out with the intention of testing run 2 minute, walk 1 minute intervals again. The first interval felt so good that I missed 2 minutes, checking the watch at 2:12. Decided to see how long the leg would feel okay, and turned it into a 3 minute interval. I prepared myself mentally for the possibility that the next interval would need to be shorter, but I managed a full 3 minutes the second time. Another minute walking, and it was clear that a third running interval would be unwise.
So, 8 minutes total and the longest measured distance of the month. It's also still shorter than the shortest race I've ever run, but at least it's longer than the last time. Progress seems glacially slow, but there is progress.
@shanaber @Elise4270 - I was a math major in college, because it was the easiest degree to get. No minor was required, didn't have to write a lot of papers, no fuzziness to the grading. I didn't actually use heavy duty math much in my career, but the theory and concepts were important from time to time. And of course a mathematical aptitude is helpful for my new part time job of retirement portfolio manager.
And yes, I'm a bit of a numbers geek when it comes to running; but not so much that I stand out among all the other numbers geeks.
2016 races:
January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:31:11
August 13, 2016 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY) finished in 19:07 (5K PR)
September 4, 2016 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:31:37
September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY) DNF a mile from finish
October 15, 2016 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
October 22, 2016 Scare Brain Cancer Away 5K (East Rochester, NY)
November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
2017 races:
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)
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I somehow deleted my current activity panel from my Garmin Connect dashboard and can find no way to add it back. Pfft.
Date Miles MTD ------ ----- ------- Oct 1 6.2 6.2 Oct 2 6.5 12.7 Oct 4 4.3 17.0 Oct 5 4.3T 21.3 Oct 8 10.1 31.4 Oct 9 4.3T 35.7 Oct 12 4.6T 40.3 Oct 13 5.2T 45.5 Oct 15 6.5 52.0 Oct 16 4.3 56.3
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10/1: 20 miles
10/2: 4.6 miles (am), 5.4 miles (pm)
10/3: 6 miles with the Coffee Crew
10/4: 5 miles (am), 10 miles (pm)
10/5: 5 miles
10/6: 3.5 miles
10/7: 9.5 miles
10/8: 6 miles with a 5k in the middle
10/9: 4 miles
10/10: Oh my god finally a rest day
10/11: 10 miles
10/12: 6 miles (am), 4.2 miles (pm)
10/13: 8 miles (am), 6.4 miles with the Thursday crew
10/14: Rest day
10/15: 7.3 miles with the Saturday crew
10/16: 2 miles + 13.1 HM
Ate some humble pie at my race today... I should have looked at the elevation chart with a more critical eye before I decided this was my fall goal race for the half. Started off strong with a 49:31 first half, but really fell apart in the second half which had most of the elevation gain of the race. I ended up with an almost 3.5 minute positive split for a 1:42:24, which was 4 minutes slower than my goal for today. But I learned a few lessons:
1) When you want to pace "anything sub-7:30" DO NOT START OUT AT A 7:03 PACE, DUMMY.
2) Hydrate better the day before, dumb-dumb.
3) Learn a better way to deal with side stitches besides "ride it out" for 3 straight miles.
4) Buddy up! Wouldn't have made it to the finish without a "woe is me" walk break without this woman named Steph who ran with me and chatted and encouraged me along the way.
All in all, a rough race, but I'm not upset. I'm dedicating the spring to really training the heck out of the HM and whittling my PR (1:40:13) down to a mid to low-1:30s time. I managed to keep my pace at/below marathon pace for almost every mile despite tons of hills that won't be present at the Philly Marathon. And I learned some important lessons and gotten taken down a peg, which I think I needed a bit.
And here's an almost-finish photo taken around 12.5 miles by my friend who spontaneously decided to come spectate. See also: right after a bug flew into my eye (ouch) and toward the end of FOUR STRAIGHT MILES OF ALMOST CONTINUOUS UPHILL.
Upcoming Races:
10/8: Coe College Homecoming 5k: 21:26
10/16: Superhero Halloween Half Marathon: 1:42:24
11/20: Philadelphia Marathon (Goal: 3:30 or better)
3/26/17: Philly Love Run HM
5/14/17: Delaware Marathon Running Festival HM
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@kristinegift despite the rough time, that's still an awesome race. You were 20 minutes faster than my PR. You are an awesome runner and (hoping I'm not jinxing it) I have a good feeling you'll BQ in Philly1
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Your advice is needed. So I did the RNR Denver half this morning. The course is supposed to be 13.1. I turned on mapmyrun the second I crossed the start line. It totaled 15.37 miles and I stopped it the second I crossed the finish.
MMR says my HM time was 3:35:07. The official race results say my time was 3:36:15(a very small improvement from the Colfax half in May). Strava says my time (based from uploaded info from MapMyRun) was 3:06:50. How do I know which one is right? AND everyone I talked to, their GPS showed the course as 15.37 miles like mine, or roughly 14 miles. How do I figure out my time and the actual mileage of the course??0 -
@Virkati that's a huge difference from a HM to the 15.37 you recorded. I really don't know what I'd do, other than contact the race people and see what they say about course length and your race time.
Really though, if everyone showed it that long, I'd think your strava time might be the closest to the actual time for running 13.10 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@Virkati that's a huge difference from a HM to the 15.37 you recorded. I really don't know what I'd do, other than contact the race people and see what they say about course length and your race time.
Really though, if everyone showed it that long, I'd think your strava time might be the closest to the actual time for running 13.1
I agree with contacting the race director. Also, on Strava it should pull others that also ran. You can look at their distance. I'd die and be miffed if it was 14-15 miles. I ran the RNR Dallas and all the weaving I did in the crowd put me at 13.5.
Ne'er mind thisI'm assuming the MMR pulls the fastest consistent 13.1 miles for your PR? I think Garmin works that way. Then go with that for the PR. Congratulations on the race, sounds crazy. I'd have been nuts when my distance hit 14..
Edit. I checked others that ran it on strava. I'm guessing that the MMR had some connectivity issues. Looks like 13.1ish. checking with the RD couldn't hurt.
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Great job Sleuthing @Elise42701
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@Virkati I was just reading this the other day on the Rock n Roll website: runrocknroll.com/running-gps-vs-certified-courses/
I have one friend who also raced the Denver half and her Garmin registered the course as 13.4.1 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »Great job Sleuthing @Elise4270
Thanks... I think it's time for a GPS watch @Virkati
although, they're not always perfect either. 0 -
@kristinegift You look awesome and strong. Way to go! And that's a good reminder about hydrating the day before. Thanks!
@Elise4270 and @shanaber I work in publishing, but I am still a total data geek. I probably should have gone into something in the maths or sciences.1 -
@kristinegift - Assuming that you BQ at Philly, remember those 4 miles of almost continual uphill. They were training you for the hills of Newton.2
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RunRachelleRun wrote: »@Virkati I was just reading this the other day on the Rock n Roll website: runrocknroll.com/running-gps-vs-certified-courses/
I have one friend who also raced the Denver half and her Garmin registered the course as 13.4.
Nice share. I ran a RNR 5k that came up short. I wonder if I might consider that the full 5? Hmm. Is sanctioned 5k. Stoked!
@Virkati I checked the USATF for the RNR Denver. It's also sanctioned for the half. I think it's safe to call it 13.x instead if 15.x0 -
RunRachelleRun wrote: »@Virkati I was just reading this the other day on the Rock n Roll website: runrocknroll.com/running-gps-vs-certified-courses/
I have one friend who also raced the Denver half and her Garmin registered the course as 13.4.
That would explain my last HM registering just 12.8 on my Garmin. Course was certified and the full was a BQ course, so I highly doubt the half was off my 0.3 miles.1 -
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I just had one of those ah ha! moments. Part of the reason my HR has been higher than I wanted my last couple runs could be because I have my biggest climb in mile 2, it raises my HR to z3 and I don't really get my HR down after that, it seems to set the tone for the run.
At least I'm keeping the average in z2.....I'm such a data junkie.1 -
@kristinegift - Assuming that you BQ at Philly, remember those 4 miles of almost continual uphill. They were training you for the hills of Newton.
@MobyCarp That is so, so true!
And thanks @MNLittleFinn and @RunRachelleRun and @skippygirlsmom for the kind words and "good jobs" 1 -
1---3.17 walk/run ish
2---2.7 walk
3---travel day, Dallas PT
4---4.7 walk
5---rest
6---4.04 walk
7---0.6 walk
8---rest
9---state fair walk, 1+ miles
10---3.36
11---pt appointment
12---sore/rest
13---35 minutes bike trainer/2.45 TM walk/few weights
14---4.4 walk
15---4.8 walk
16---2 poké walk
33.22/50+ walking miles goal
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October goal...run to earn wine and ice cream
10/1: core/strength training, 2 mile run and 20 minutes of fancy footwork trying to herd the neighbor's stray cow out of our yard
10/2 rest
10/3 slug...never got out of my nightgown and played computer games (it was FABULOUS!)
10/4 4.10
10/5 3.11
10/6 core/strength training
10/7 rest
10/8 3.25
10/9 6.48
10/10 3.18
10/11 Snorkel 3 hours
10/12 4.28
10/13 core/strength and 2.41
10/14 rest
10/15 4.50
10/16 core/strength and 2.07
Total 35.38
so many comments I noted, but I'm too lazy to go back and quote.....off the top of my head:
@mobycarp keep on keeping on...
@skippygirlsmom 28 miles is better than dns....
@kristinegift 4miles of uphill AND a bug is the eye is just not fair...
@Elise4270 glad to see longer walks and less pain!
Upcoming races:
Las Vegas RocknRoll Half 11/13/16
Ticker is my goal for 2016 and accumulation to date:
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Thanks @Naija82 . Sorry to read about your knee. Hope it's nothing serious.0
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Joanna2012B wrote: »Joanna2012B wrote: »It seems to always be an update behind. I ran 8km this morning so I am now at 30 km with 40 to go
Another 5.5 this morning for a total of 35.5 with 34.5 to go!!
I ran 5.5 on Thursday and another 8 yesterday! Total of 49 with 21 to go!!0 -
October running
10/01: day off
10/02: 3.5
10/03: 3.5
10/04: day off
10/05: 3.5
10/06: 3.5
10/07: day off
10/08: 3.5
10/09: day off (major rain)
10/10: 3.5
10/11: day off
10/12: 3.5
10/13: 3.5
10/14: day off
10/15: 3.5
10/16: 3.5
Total: 35/601 -
@_nikkiwolf_ I Love your description of your Mountain Run and the internal argument / justification. Great Pics.
@kristinegift looking at your photo one item I noticed right away is that even though you felt like you were struggling - Your form was still exquisite. I mean look at how flat your foot is just barely before/after landing, a sure sign of keeping it together. The Funny Face just for the camera
You would have beat me by at least 18-20 minutes.1 -
louubelle16 wrote: »My first bad run in ages, but I should have known better than to even try. I felt sick before I went, but went anyway only to feel dizzy at mile 2. I walked for a bit, then threw up in a bush and had to head home. Might try and make the miles up tomorrow if I feel up to it (only headed out for 7 miles anyway), but we'll see. Feeling very, very weak now, ugh.
Poor @louubelle16 ! Hope you're better quickly.lissadecker wrote: »Yesterday's second run and this morning's run were both pretty rough. My muscles and joints all feel ok. It is the breathing. I remember now why I used to run mostly on the treadmill. The humidity here is tough. And, it is actually not that bad at this time of year. I don't know what I am going to do come next summer. I think it might not be too bad if I didn't have allergies on top of it. I can't really breathe through my nose at all when I run because the airway just isn't clear enough to get enough oxygen. When it gets bad, I can feel the heaviness in my chest and am even coughing a bit by the time I am finished. I already take Zyrtec daily for allergies but it isn't helping much. I'm a singer, so I am familiar with breathing exercises and control but it doesn't help much when there isn't enough air getting in to begin with. Any other suggestions for dealing with this problem? Nasal sprays? I feel like I could run more if I could just get enough breath.
@lissadecker Sorry to hear about your allergies combined with the humidity!
I've been getting what I think is hayfever the past week, with it being Spring here down under. But I realised that apart from needing to blow my nose more while running, I always breathe through my mouth.
Do other people breathe through their nose or their mouth while running?
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3 miles this morning!!!
22 for the month.1 -
10/1....12 miles.
10/4....3 miles.
10/7....1.62 miles treadmill. Total..16.62 miles
10/8....13.1 (Indianapolis Half Marathon....average pace 11:58
10/9...Colts game...beer and a large pretzel....mistake...lots of swelling in left ankle.
10/10...work
10/11...6 miles run, mixing up fast sprints, easy run, fartleks...felt good but unable to muster a fast pace or increase heart rate much above 90% max heart rate. The half marathon took a lot out of me.
10/16...8 miles at very, very slow pace...averaged 73% max heart rate.
Working on building my running base...the run today took forever (1:52), and never felt that I relaxed at any juncture...the weather was a cool 69 degrees, rather humid after a rain. I had worked the last 2 nights, so imagine that fatigue was a factor. I think that the soreness/ache which is now gone was an after-affect from running the half marathon. In that race, I really pushed myself in the final 2 miles and think that I over-strained some muscles. I am still reading Fitzgerald's 80/20 at work on my break.
Last Wednesday, I met with my physician to review my lipid lab results, and received the best news...total cholesterol at 190, Ldl at 96, Hdl at 83, triglycerides at 54. 3 years ago my cholesterol was 290, and Hdl was 38. I have to believe that working on my diet and fitness really made a significant difference in this result.
Total...43.72
Goal...75 miles.
5/6/17....Indianapolis Mini-marathon
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juliet3455 wrote: »
@kristinegift looking at your photo one item I noticed right away is that even though you felt like you were struggling - Your form was still exquisite. I mean look at how flat your foot is just barely before/after landing, a sure sign of keeping it together. The Funny Face just for the camera
You would have beat me by at least 18-20 minutes.
@juliet3455 That is a fair point! Unlike my races 1-2 years ago, my form did stay fairly strong despite being totally wiped. I've also got to give credit to the shoes. The NB shoes I have don't have much of a heel so it's much easier to maintain good form and foot strike, unlike my boxier Saucony shoes.
so many comments I noted, but I'm too lazy to go back and quote.....off the top of my head:
@mobycarp keep on keeping on...
@skippygirlsmom 28 miles is better than dns....
@kristinegift 4miles of uphill AND a bug is the eye is just not fair...
@Elise4270 glad to see longer walks and less pain!
@HonuNui When the bug flew into my eye, I uttered a few expletives for sure! Horrible timing!0 -
10/1: 20 miles
10/2: 4.6 miles (am), 5.4 miles (pm)
10/3: 6 miles with the Coffee Crew
10/4: 5 miles (am), 10 miles (pm)
10/5: 5 miles
10/6: 3.5 miles
10/7: 9.5 miles
10/8: 6 miles with a 5k in the middle
10/9: 4 miles
10/10: Oh my god finally a rest day
10/11: 10 miles
10/12: 6 miles (am), 4.2 miles (pm)
10/13: 8 miles (am), 6.4 miles with the Thursday crew
10/14: Rest day
10/15: 7.3 miles with the Saturday crew
10/16: 2 miles + 13.1 HM
10/17: 3 miles with the Coffee Crew
Very sore this morning! Felt okay running, but moving around my house, my quads are a bit stiff and my right hamstring is a little tender. Really glad I booked a massage for today at my massage LAST month. I figured that I would need it and indeed I do! I cannot wait to get these tight spots worked out. But for the first time, all my soreness is above my knee, so my calves are feeling good!
I've got another couple peak weeks this week and next, but because I went hard Sunday I'll be doing all my runs easy this week until this weekend. I've got 20-22 on Saturday and 8-10 hard, fatigued miles Sunday on the docket.
Upcoming Races:
10/8: Coe College Homecoming 5k: 21:26
10/16: Superhero Halloween Half Marathon: 1:42:24
11/20: Philadelphia Marathon (Goal: 3:30 or better)
3/26/17: Philly Love Run HM
5/14/17: Delaware Marathon Running Festival HM
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