why does sugar make us fat
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Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Yes, while being starved they chose the substance that actually had calories. Shocking.
I didn't know they were starved, the study was something I heard a few years ago but never read the study myself.
I personally know an addict that choses his drugs over food - maybe all don't idk.0 -
Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Sarcasm doesn't come across well in text...try emoticons or gifs, pigs are good :bigsmile:
Also rat studies? Fur real? Did you ever see the actual studies, some dubious parameters and exceedingly bad extrapolation by tabloid press ...also never repeated in humans
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WinoGelato wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Smart rats.
Maybe they escaped from NIMH
Random story:
I was telling my dad how last time I was at Midway they had this special explosives sniffing dog (apparently it's a pilot program and certain airports get them -- not the drug sniffing dogs) and so we didn't have to take off our shoes or remove our computers from the bag. He insisted that rats are excellent at smelling explosives (I dunno, weird dad fact) and I have been amusing myself thinking about a pack of trained rats running around airports sniffing people's bags. Way to get underemployed city rodents off the street!20 -
Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Sarcasm doesn't come across well in text...try emoticons or gifs, pigs are good :bigsmile:
Also rat studies? Fur real? Did you ever see the actual studies, some dubious parameters and exceedingly bad extrapolation by tabloid press ...also never repeated in humans
Point taken on emoticons.
I never actually read the rat study just heard about it. I do believe that there was some human brain scans done on sugar addicts vs cocaine addicts and they had similar scans. BUT it was a joke I don't know anything about it other than what was heard years ago.
I need to work on my humor apparently.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Smart rats.
Maybe they escaped from NIMH
Random story:
I was telling my dad how last time I was at Midway they had this special explosives sniffing dog (apparently it's a pilot program and certain airports get them -- not the drug sniffing dogs) and so we didn't have to take off our shoes or remove our computers from the bag. He insisted that rats are excellent at smelling explosives (I dunno, weird dad fact) and I have been amusing myself thinking about a pack of trained rats running around airports sniffing people's bags. Way to get underemployed city rodents off the street!
Equally random story:
My company manufactures the Pseudoscents that are used to train those dogs... and maybe the rats too!10 -
Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Yes, while being starved they chose the substance that actually had calories. Shocking.
I didn't know they were starved, the study was something I heard a few years ago but never read the study myself.
I personally know an addict that choses his drugs over food - maybe all don't idk.
The rats weren't cocaine addicts or sugar addicts. They had two choices for "food". Sugar water or cocaine water. They chose the substance that would keep them alive. Not really all that shocking.
If you are stranded on an island, and I'm assuming you aren't addicted to cocaine, and I give you the option of hohos or snorting coke, which are you going with?8 -
published about 2 months ago
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27372453?dopt=Abstract
Full Text: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-016-1229-6
"Results
We find little evidence to support sugar addiction in humans, and findings from the animal literature suggest that addiction-like behaviours, such as bingeing, occur only in the context of intermittent access to sugar. These behaviours likely arise from intermittent access to sweet tasting or highly palatable foods, not the neurochemical effects of sugar.
Conclusion
Given the lack of evidence supporting it, we argue against a premature incorporation of sugar addiction into the scientific literature and public policy recommendations."9 -
Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Yes, while being starved they chose the substance that actually had calories. Shocking.
I didn't know they were starved, the study was something I heard a few years ago but never read the study myself.
I personally know an addict that choses his drugs over food - maybe all don't idk.
The rats weren't cocaine addicts or sugar addicts. They had two choices for "food". Sugar water or cocaine water. They chose the substance that would keep them alive. Not really all that shocking.
If you are stranded on an island, and I'm assuming you aren't addicted to cocaine, and I give you the option of hohos or snorting coke, which are you going with?
I personally don't like hoho's and I've never tried cocaine and I do live on an island, thankfully with lots of options.
But seriously dude it was a joke. No need to prove anything to me I don't really care in terms of proving anything. I'm mildly interested in addiction as I have a distant family member who is severely addicted.
I will work on my humor.1 -
Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Yes, while being starved they chose the substance that actually had calories. Shocking.
I didn't know they were starved, the study was something I heard a few years ago but never read the study myself.
I personally know an addict that choses his drugs over food - maybe all don't idk.
The rats weren't cocaine addicts or sugar addicts. They had two choices for "food". Sugar water or cocaine water. They chose the substance that would keep them alive. Not really all that shocking.
If you are stranded on an island, and I'm assuming you aren't addicted to cocaine, and I give you the option of hohos or snorting coke, which are you going with?
I personally don't like hoho's and I've never tried cocaine and I do live on an island, thankfully with lots of options.
But seriously dude it was a joke. No need to prove anything to me I don't really care in terms of proving anything. I'm mildly interested in addiction as I have a distant family member who is severely addicted.
I will work on my humor.
LOL
You just stepped in a sore spot
It's all ok
Here, have a pig gif
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imajollyroger wrote: »Sugar and carbs absolutely make you fat! What do you think beer belly is? There's no fat in beer. The body converts sugar/carbs into fat if it can't utilize it immediately for fuel. Doesn't matter if excess calories. I can run a calorie deficit and gain weight if I consume too many carbs without using them. Sugar and carbs also make you more hungry like eating Chinese food. Your insulin gets high which blocks your satiety signals to your brain. Your body won't burn fat until the glycogen is depleted. First it uses glycogen, then it uses fat as reserve.
I hope you're kidding...2 -
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Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Yes, while being starved they chose the substance that actually had calories. Shocking.
Were they starving, or already tripping balls on the cocaine? I've seen the study where they gave the rats heroin and then while still tweaking, gave them the choice between heroine or saccharine. Hmmm.. I wonder which they would choose?0 -
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The rats weren't cocaine addicts or sugar addicts. They had two choices for "food". Sugar water or cocaine water. They chose the substance that would keep them alive. Not really all that shocking.
If you are stranded on an island, and I'm assuming you aren't addicted to cocaine, and I give you the option of hohos or snorting coke, which are you going with?
Hohos FTW!
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Because it hits the same brain receptors as cocaine, thus we want more and more.
1) you ruined my pig gifs by sneaking in the middle
2) don't be silly you're equating food which possibly has behavioural addictive properties in some individuals with drugs which are physically addictive through the anticipatory dopamine release that you also get through petting puppies...or pigs
everyone is so quick to jump on a post it was a freaking joke, sarcasm
I personally love to be silly life is too short not to be.
As a side point rats did go for sugar more than cocaine:).
Yes, while being starved they chose the substance that actually had calories. Shocking.
I didn't know they were starved, the study was something I heard a few years ago but never read the study myself.
I personally know an addict that choses his drugs over food - maybe all don't idk.
The rats weren't cocaine addicts or sugar addicts. They had two choices for "food". Sugar water or cocaine water. They chose the substance that would keep them alive. Not really all that shocking.
If you are stranded on an island, and I'm assuming you aren't addicted to cocaine, and I give you the option of hohos or snorting coke, which are you going with?
Both?3 -
imajollyroger wrote: »Sugar and carbs absolutely make you fat! What do you think beer belly is? There's no fat in beer. The body converts sugar/carbs into fat if it can't utilize it immediately for fuel. Doesn't matter if excess calories. I can run a calorie deficit and gain weight if I consume too many carbs without using them. Sugar and carbs also make you more hungry like eating Chinese food. Your insulin gets high which blocks your satiety signals to your brain. Your body won't burn fat until the glycogen is depleted. First it uses glycogen, then it uses fat as reserve.
Oh goodness, no. You body can't just magically store fat if in a calorie deficit.
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I'm curious what some of the forum regulars make of this article? It make a lot of points they agree with regarding fats but does flirt with the point that sugar may not be an angel
It's been discussed before, although I posted this as a counter: http://www.thenutritionwonk.com/single-post/2016/04/13/Ancel-Keys-and-the-Seven-Country-Study-A-Response-to-The-Sugar-Conspiracy
Excess is never good.1 -
Sugar doesn't give you any lasting fullness for the calories.1
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goldthistime wrote: »Sugar doesn't give you any lasting fullness for the calories.
It does for me. *shrug*5 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Sugar doesn't give you any lasting fullness for the calories.
It does for me. *shrug*
Same here. A cup of marshmallows (150 calories) fills me up better than 1/4 cup of pecans (200 calories). Not to mention looking at the amount of pecans for these calories makes me sad.6
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