Home remedies for itching/hives

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  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,893 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    as far as i know you should be avoiding both cold AND hot as they both release histamines. It may feel better at the time, but over the next half an hour or so your body will dump histamines into your system causing a serious lashback.

    Here's what i recommend.
    1.) Take some LUKE WARM shallow baths with some epsom salt in them. You can use a washcloth to gently tap the salty water over your skin allowing it to evaporate off. Better yet, fill your bath until it's only covering your legs with lukewarm water and add a cup of epsom salt and a cup of baking soda.
    2.) Cover yourself in either calamine, aloe (FRESH), or vasoline.
    3.) avoid drinking/eating anything between these extreme temps along with spicy foods, chocolate, or caffiene.
    4.) continue the benadryl and steroids.

    CHILL!

    I know it can be miserable, i've dealt with this before. maybe what you've been doing has been making things worse.

    The histamine dump info is interesting. I took insanely hot showers after a bout of poison ivy last fall only to learn that this can open up the pores and make it spread. It was indeed the worse case of PI I had - the next few bouts weren't remotely close to this bad.

    ncw7wp3l3aj4.jpg

    Tricalm is the best OTC medicine I found. My doctor also prescribed TRIAMCINOLONE ACETONIDE 0.025% CREAM.

    For home remedies, if my skin wasn't broken, I'd try making a paste of bentonite clay with apple cider vinegar. These guys suggest the clay, water, and oil: http://everydayroots.com/bentonite-clay-poultice

    More home remedies here: http://www.holistichealthherbalist.com/8-natural-poison-ivy-treatments-anyone-can/

  • siraphine
    siraphine Posts: 185 Member
    I use corn starch. My skin is very sensitive and I will break out in hives and bleed all over if the wind blows north for more than an hour. Dusting myself down with corn starch helps me a bit.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    as far as i know you should be avoiding both cold AND hot as they both release histamines. It may feel better at the time, but over the next half an hour or so your body will dump histamines into your system causing a serious lashback.

    Here's what i recommend.
    1.) Take some LUKE WARM shallow baths with some epsom salt in them. You can use a washcloth to gently tap the salty water over your skin allowing it to evaporate off. Better yet, fill your bath until it's only covering your legs with lukewarm water and add a cup of epsom salt and a cup of baking soda.
    2.) Cover yourself in either calamine, aloe (FRESH), or vasoline.
    3.) avoid drinking/eating anything between these extreme temps along with spicy foods, chocolate, or caffiene.
    4.) continue the benadryl and steroids.

    CHILL!

    I know it can be miserable, i've dealt with this before. maybe what you've been doing has been making things worse.

    The histamine dump info is interesting. I took insanely hot showers after a bout of poison ivy last fall only to learn that this can open up the pores and make it spread. It was indeed the worse case of PI I had - the next few bouts weren't remotely close to this bad.

    ncw7wp3l3aj4.jpg

    Tricalm is the best OTC medicine I found. My doctor also prescribed TRIAMCINOLONE ACETONIDE 0.025% CREAM.

    For home remedies, if my skin wasn't broken, I'd try making a paste of bentonite clay with apple cider vinegar. These guys suggest the clay, water, and oil: http://everydayroots.com/bentonite-clay-poultice

    More home remedies here: http://www.holistichealthherbalist.com/8-natural-poison-ivy-treatments-anyone-can/

    Poison ivy doesn't spread. Poison ivy is a reaction to the urushiol oil of the plant. Where you come in contact with it, you react. Some areas of the body react faster than others which can give the illusion of it spreading.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,893 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    as far as i know you should be avoiding both cold AND hot as they both release histamines. It may feel better at the time, but over the next half an hour or so your body will dump histamines into your system causing a serious lashback.

    Here's what i recommend.
    1.) Take some LUKE WARM shallow baths with some epsom salt in them. You can use a washcloth to gently tap the salty water over your skin allowing it to evaporate off. Better yet, fill your bath until it's only covering your legs with lukewarm water and add a cup of epsom salt and a cup of baking soda.
    2.) Cover yourself in either calamine, aloe (FRESH), or vasoline.
    3.) avoid drinking/eating anything between these extreme temps along with spicy foods, chocolate, or caffiene.
    4.) continue the benadryl and steroids.

    CHILL!

    I know it can be miserable, i've dealt with this before. maybe what you've been doing has been making things worse.

    The histamine dump info is interesting. I took insanely hot showers after a bout of poison ivy last fall only to learn that this can open up the pores and make it spread. It was indeed the worse case of PI I had - the next few bouts weren't remotely close to this bad.

    ncw7wp3l3aj4.jpg

    Tricalm is the best OTC medicine I found. My doctor also prescribed TRIAMCINOLONE ACETONIDE 0.025% CREAM.

    For home remedies, if my skin wasn't broken, I'd try making a paste of bentonite clay with apple cider vinegar. These guys suggest the clay, water, and oil: http://everydayroots.com/bentonite-clay-poultice

    More home remedies here: http://www.holistichealthherbalist.com/8-natural-poison-ivy-treatments-anyone-can/

    Poison ivy doesn't spread. Poison ivy is a reaction to the urushiol oil of the plant. Where you come in contact with it, you react. Some areas of the body react faster than others which can give the illusion of it spreading.

    /shrug/

    The other times I also had it on my forearms but didn't take the hot showers it didn't do this. So, no more insanely hot showers for me, despite the glorious endorphin rush.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    So I have hives and itching on the whole top part of my body due to an allergic reaction. Yes I have seen my doctor as well as an ER visit and was given a prescription for steroids. I was also told to continue taking Benadryl and hydroxizine. I have pretty much maxed out (maybe even taken way too much) the antihistamines today, yet still can't sleep due to the intense itching. I was wondering if anyone had some at home remedies that work for them tha they would be will to share. I absolutely cannot take an oatmeal bath or use products with oat due to allergies. I am also pregnant which limits things a bit as well.

    Things I have already tried:
    -hot and cold showers
    -witch hazel
    -pine tar soap
    -Sarna
    -regular lotion
    -aloe Vera

    Thanks in advance.

    Didn't read the whole thread, but I'm so sorry! I've been there! I also have a prescription antihistamine and steroid cream I use.

    As for home remedies, a cool baking soda bath has helped me as well. Making a paste and putting on affected areas while in the tub.

    Not sure if anyone else suggested it. Hope you're doing better!!!
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
    If you haven't used it, you probably have no room to make comment on it.
    What a ridiculous comment. I've never used cocaine, so by your flawed logic I can't say that's is bad for me?
    Given its been our sole source of medical care for the last 7yrs, has been used extensively in my home for severe allergic reactions, completely healed my boy's bleeding disorder
    Nope, as usual, you just make things up. As homeopathy doesn't work, as has been proven over and over to not work.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20402610
    In order for homeopathy to work it would have to break a few laws of physics and biology. It is based on prescientific notions and magic. Water does not have memory, like doesn't treat like, continously diluting a substance in water doesn't make it stronger.
    I can tell her unequivocally that it works.
    You can say that you believe it works, but you can't say that it works because it doesnt work.
    https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/media/releases/2015/nhmrc-releases-statement-and-advice-homeopathy?
    There are millions that use it and know it works.
    And as usual from you, a logical fallacy, argument ad populum. Millions of people use horoscopes, it doesn't prove it works. Millions of people used bloodletting to treat all sorts of maladies, it didn't work either.
    If you understood h-pathy, you'd understand why double blind studies are hard to do with it.
    If you actually understood what a double blind RCT was you'd understand how inane this statement is. Homeopathy is the ultimate pseudoscience. Homeopathy has been an abysmal failure when studied.
    That said, there are a number of successful studies done recently
    Oh yeah? Then post one of these successful studies. But, before you embarrass yourself further, read the study and make sure it says what you think it says.
  • ogtmama
    ogtmama Posts: 1,403 Member
    johnwelk wrote: »
    If you haven't used it, you probably have no room to make comment on it.
    What a ridiculous comment. I've never used cocaine, so by your flawed logic I can't say that's is bad for me?
    Given its been our sole source of medical care for the last 7yrs, has been used extensively in my home for severe allergic reactions, completely healed my boy's bleeding disorder
    Nope, as usual, you just make things up. As homeopathy doesn't work, as has been proven over and over to not work.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20402610
    In order for homeopathy to work it would have to break a few laws of physics and biology. It is based on prescientific notions and magic. Water does not have memory, like doesn't treat like, continously diluting a substance in water doesn't make it stronger.
    I can tell her unequivocally that it works.
    You can say that you believe it works, but you can't say that it works because it doesnt work.
    https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/media/releases/2015/nhmrc-releases-statement-and-advice-homeopathy?
    There are millions that use it and know it works.
    And as usual from you, a logical fallacy, argument ad populum. Millions of people use horoscopes, it doesn't prove it works. Millions of people used bloodletting to treat all sorts of maladies, it didn't work either.
    If you understood h-pathy, you'd understand why double blind studies are hard to do with it.
    If you actually understood what a double blind RCT was you'd understand how inane this statement is. Homeopathy is the ultimate pseudoscience. Homeopathy has been an abysmal failure when studied.
    That said, there are a number of successful studies done recently
    Oh yeah? Then post one of these successful studies. But, before you embarrass yourself further, read the study and make sure it says what you think it says.

    Thank you
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,943 Member
    salembambi wrote: »
    Warm oatmeal and Epsom salt baths , baking soda made into a paste with water left all over area until dried then rinse off

    She's allergic to oatmeal.

    When I've gotten itchy, I've used Dermasil lotion, which seems to help.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,943 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    Happy to say today that the hives and swelling have gone down significantly. Last night I ised the baking soda paste twice, witch hazel and aloe Vera, along with the anti histamines. The body looks so much better. Face still looks redish/puffy but going down.

    Thank you everyone for the suggestions.

    GREAT news!
  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    [quote="johnwelk;38107249"
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    John, you are not worth it. It would not matter how much evidence I posted you would be of the same opinion, so what would be the point?

    Since my family actively uses hpathy, and has for years, I could really care less what you think or what the NIH says when it comes to hpathy. My boy is alive today because of it and you can argue with his ex-hematologists (we fired three of them for sheer incompetence and stupidity) about whether or not it works. I couldn't give a rats behind what you think. And since we manage all of our dog's, cat's, and chicken's care with hpathy you're going to be hard pressed to convince me it's placebo. Animals don't know the difference.

    I know exactly what a double blind study is. If you understood that hpathy treats the individual and not just a disease then you'd get why they have to come up with alternative ways to accomplish these studies. When they finally came up with a good methodology for doing so they moved ahead with studies. You can also find that on the website I gave. Given how much money they cost they take much longer to accomplish.

    Click on the damn links to the studies yourself. I told you what site they could be found on, go get them. When someone actually cares to hear the truth (or at least objectively listen) then they're worth my time and energy. You are not worth it now, and never will be.

    You can go use all the doctors, drugs, vaccines, and chemo you want. You can eat all the fast food, aspartame, and sugar you can stand. No one is standing in the way of you killing yourself with the medical care you choose to use or the food you choose to eat. Those of us who use oils, supplements, whole foods, hpathy, chiropractors, acupuncture, and/or naturopaths aren't forcing it down your throat.

    You must be a liberal. They're the only ones I know threatened by what they don't understand or have a solid knowledge of and think no one else should have the freedom to choose either.

    As elphie seems to have found things that gave her relief, I am done here. I didn't get on this thread to argue with the likes of you. I stopped by here to see if I could offer support and help to a pregnant woman, not argue about whether you think the medical care I use or suggest (when someone specifically asked for natural) is what you or the medical establishment thinks works or not.
  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    edited November 2016
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    So I have hives and itching on the whole top part of my body due to an allergic reaction. Yes I have seen my doctor as well as an ER visit and was given a prescription for steroids. I was also told to continue taking Benadryl and hydroxizine. I have pretty much maxed out (maybe even taken way too much) the antihistamines today, yet still can't sleep due to the intense itching. I was wondering if anyone had some at home remedies that work for them tha they would be will to share. I absolutely cannot take an oatmeal bath or use products with oat due to allergies. I am also pregnant which limits things a bit as well.

    Things I have already tried:
    -hot and cold showers
    -witch hazel
    -pine tar soap
    -Sarna
    -regular lotion
    -aloe Vera

    Thanks in advance.

    Didn't read the whole thread, but I'm so sorry! I've been there! I also have a prescription antihistamine and steroid cream I use.

    As for home remedies, a cool baking soda bath has helped me as well. Making a paste and putting on affected areas while in the tub.

    Not sure if anyone else suggested it. Hope you're doing better!!!

    Baking soda paste works great for bee stings too. I wet it with water and put the paste on immediately and get relief quickly. Plus it doesn't swell as much.

    I havent tried dissolving in the bath. I'll have to try the baking soda in bath water if I get itchies. That sounds soothing, easy to find, and harmless.
  • socialdchic
    socialdchic Posts: 170 Member
    I did not read all of the replies but my son and I both have chronic hives. My son's is unknown cause and mine is a severe allergy to dust. At any rate, its pretty much a constant, unavoidable battle. We have been to many specialists and you should be taking more than benadryl. I am also not sure what of these meds you can take while pregnant so you need to look that up. First, a daily allergy med, zyrtec is the best for itching from what multiple allergists have told me. second is zantac, it is typically for your stomach but it is also a histamine blocker. Benadryl is ok but it is very short lived, it only lasts 4 hours and that alone will not control my hives. I must have the 24 hour allergy meds and the zantac 2x a day. Anything you put on your skin will not help, its an internal thing.
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
    John, you are not worth it. It would not matter how much evidence I posted you would be of the same opinion, so what would be the point?
    Wrong, I follow where science leads. I'm willing to look at whatever you post but for some unknown reason you never can cite anything. Ever. Why is that? You just go on long rants. You have claimed on prior threads to be a extreme researcher so you should have the ability to post a cite and discuss it rationally. Funny that you can't.
    Since my family actively uses hpathy, and has for years, I could really care less what you think or what the NIH says when it comes to hpathy.
    You can use it all you want, it's nothing more than a mix of placebo and confirmation bias, as it is the ultimate pseudoscience.
    My boy is alive today because of it
    Umm...no. Since homeopathy is based on prescientific notions and magic, and would have to violate a few laws of physics and biology, and has been a complete failure when studied, there is no possible way for this statement to be true. If it was true then you should have a nobel prize. So either:
    1) you're outright lying
    2) the condition resolved on its own
    3) the condition was misdiagnosed
    I know you hate choice 2 and 3, as you want to be viewed as some sort of maverick alternative medicine hero, but you're not. Whether you beleive it or not diseases can spontaneously clear up. And, believe it or not, but misdiagnosis does happen.


    and you can argue with his ex-hematologists (we fired three of them for sheer incompetence and stupidity) about whether or not it works. I couldn't give a rats behind what you think.
    Oh, get over yourself. What an ego you have. You didn't fire any doctor ever, they don't work for you.

    And since we manage all of our dog's, cat's, and chicken's care with hpathy you're going to be hard pressed to convince me it's placebo. Animals don't know the difference.
    For someone who supposedly does so much research, you are so incredibly wrong.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://thoreking.free.fr/zetetique/media/press/McMillan_ThePlaceboEffectInAnimals.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjZqtn14ZbQAhVIzFQKHeZ7BbIQFggfMAE&usg=AFQjCNE1J7iC7UW8-YWcUmel5dsWtVJVog&sig2=Mb2AllnG-N2y4jrbOaVK3w
    I know exactly what a double blind study is. If you understood that hpathy treats the individual and not just a disease then you'd get why they have to come up with alternative ways to accomplish these studies. When they finally came up with a good methodology for doing so they moved ahead with studies.
    What are the alternative ways they came up with to accomplish the studies? Homeopaths and good methodology? That's pretty funny.
    You can also find that on the website I gave. Given how much money they cost they take much longer to accomplish.
    Excuses, excuses,excuses. Never any substance from you, just excuses.
    Click on the damn links to the studies yourself. I told you what site they could be found on, go get them.
    I did just that. I can tell that you never read any of those studies, you're a true believer, no need to actually evaluate the data.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9310601
    Conclusion:
    The results of our meta-analysis are not compatible with the hypothesis that the clinical effects of homeopathy are completely due to placebo. However, we found insufficient evidence from these studies that homeopathy is clearly efficacious for any single clinical condition.Further research on homeopathy is warranted provided it is rigorous and systematic.

    Here's another:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=•Large-scale%20application%20of%20highly-diluted%20bacteria%20for%20Leptospirosis%20epidemic%20control%5ball%5d&cmd=correctspelling
    And here's a long but beautiful discussion of why this study doesn't say what the authors think it says. And also about the loose methos of homeopathy research in genearly
    https://apgaylard.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/much-ado-about-nothing/

    Shall I go on with the "science" from that quack website? I think most people can see where it's going.
    When someone actually cares to hear the truth (or at least objectively listen) then they're worth my time and energy. You are not worth it now, and never will be.
    Why is always about the Truth with the alternative crowd? You don't want the truth, you want people to believe you, you are befuddled by science and reality. You're mind is closed to anything that doesn't agree with your preconceived ideas. I will listen and have an open and objective discussion if you could ever post anything resembling science.

    You can go use all the doctors, drugs, vaccines, and chemo you want. You can eat all the fast food, aspartame, and sugar you can stand. No one is standing in the way of you killing yourself with the medical care you choose to use or the food you choose to eat.
    You're suggesting chemo, vaccines, aspartame kill people? Another baseless statement from you. This is a shining example for the people on these boards to see just how ignorant you really are.
    Those of us who use oils, supplements, whole foods, hpathy, chiropractors, acupuncture, and/or naturopaths aren't forcing it down your throat.
    All have failed when researched. No thanks, I'll stick with medicine that actually is proven to work.
    You must be a liberal. They're the only ones I know threatened by what they don't understand or have a solid knowledge of and think no one else should have the freedom to choose either.
    Nope im a slightly right leaning moderate. Not sure what this has to do with anything. Oh yeah, you have nothing to back up what you say, so might as well change the subject and hopefully no one will notice. I agree everyone should have freedom to choose their medical care but they should also have full knowledge of the treatments they choose, like how they are only placebo and have been shown to not work. You see in medicine what has been shown to not work is discarded. In alternative medicine what has been shown to not work fills the bank account.

    If anyone wants to read about the pseudoscience know as homeopathy, read here:
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Homeopathy

    And here:
    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/homeopathy/

    Once you understand what it is you can we how truly ridiculous and silly it is.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    Wow, I didn't realize that an argument had popped up because I kind of forgot to check back on this thread with everything going on.

    Not even sure what to say since I'm in the camp of both natural and traditional medication has its benefits.
    I did not read all of the replies but my son and I both have chronic hives. My son's is unknown cause and mine is a severe allergy to dust. At any rate, its pretty much a constant, unavoidable battle. We have been to many specialists and you should be taking more than benadryl. I am also not sure what of these meds you can take while pregnant so you need to look that up. First, a daily allergy med, zyrtec is the best for itching from what multiple allergists have told me. second is zantac, it is typically for your stomach but it is also a histamine blocker. Benadryl is ok but it is very short lived, it only lasts 4 hours and that alone will not control my hives. I must have the 24 hour allergy meds and the zantac 2x a day. Anything you put on your skin will not help, its an internal thing.

    I am also on 50mg of hydroxizine 2x a day. Zyrtec, Claritin and allergies do absolutely nothing for me.
  • aerochic42
    aerochic42 Posts: 819 Member
    I hope you are cleared up by now given the time frame. I have one additional suggestion for future. Make a cup of black tea, or multiple tea bags in hot water. Let cool at least enough to put on skin without pain. Use a cotton ball, soft cloth, or the tea bags themselves dab tea onto your skin. Make sure you wear something you don't mind possibly staining with the tea.

    When I get my random reactions, I also tend to push extra fluids in hopes of flushing my system faster. Not sure if it helps or not, but I like to think it does. Yes I realize you said you are pregnant, so extra fluids probably does not sound too appealing. For isolated patches on my hands (where I get most of my reactions if it's not on my face), I'll sometimes rub vasoline or chapstick (don't use the same chapstick on your lips after) the really itchy patches. I'm not sure if I would do so on large parts of my body, but I don't have any good reason.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    aerochic42 wrote: »
    I hope you are cleared up by now given the time frame. I have one additional suggestion for future. Make a cup of black tea, or multiple tea bags in hot water. Let cool at least enough to put on skin without pain. Use a cotton ball, soft cloth, or the tea bags themselves dab tea onto your skin. Make sure you wear something you don't mind possibly staining with the tea.

    When I get my random reactions, I also tend to push extra fluids in hopes of flushing my system faster. Not sure if it helps or not, but I like to think it does. Yes I realize you said you are pregnant, so extra fluids probably does not sound too appealing. For isolated patches on my hands (where I get most of my reactions if it's not on my face), I'll sometimes rub vasoline or chapstick (don't use the same chapstick on your lips after) the really itchy patches. I'm not sure if I would do so on large parts of my body, but I don't have any good reason.

    Unfortunately they have been coming and going. It seems a bit better this week though than last week
  • ChipChocolatePancake
    ChipChocolatePancake Posts: 77 Member
    edited November 2016
    I have low grade allergic reactions to EVERYTHING. I can't shave, shampoo, use makeup, use soap, etc unless it's hypoallergenic, and even then I get hives (albeit less bad than with the regular stuff). I also have environmental allergies that wreak havoc on my sinuses. My more severe allergies include mangoes, apples, and all tree nuts. I survive on a steady diet of Zyrtec, Sudafed, and Benadryl, with an occasional impromptu performance by my epi pen. :'(

    On the natural side of things, lotion seems to help calm down the pain of the hives, as does aloe vera. Another thing that helps me are the gels they sell specifically to combat razor burn. OH! ALSO! The gel that they sell to soothe poison ivy is a lifesaver! It's like a liquid topical version of Benadryl.
  • ogtmama
    ogtmama Posts: 1,403 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    Wow, I didn't realize that an argument had popped up because I kind of forgot to check back on this thread with everything going on.

    Not even sure what to say since I'm in the camp of both natural and traditional medication has its benefits.
    I did not read all of the replies but my son and I both have chronic hives. My son's is unknown cause and mine is a severe allergy to dust. At any rate, its pretty much a constant, unavoidable battle. We have been to many specialists and you should be taking more than benadryl. I am also not sure what of these meds you can take while pregnant so you need to look that up. First, a daily allergy med, zyrtec is the best for itching from what multiple allergists have told me. second is zantac, it is typically for your stomach but it is also a histamine blocker. Benadryl is ok but it is very short lived, it only lasts 4 hours and that alone will not control my hives. I must have the 24 hour allergy meds and the zantac 2x a day. Anything you put on your skin will not help, its an internal thing.

    I am also on 50mg of hydroxizine 2x a day. Zyrtec, Claritin and allergies do absolutely nothing for me.

    Homeopathy is not a natural form of medicine. It is LITERALLY shaken water. You are thinking of the holistic approach, nothing wrong with that.