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GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »
thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »@thesunmoonandstars wrote: »GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »thesunmoonandstars wrote: »I think it's interesting that the moon has a stronger influence on the tides even though the sun is larger. It's also interesting that people studying this stuff think there could be a correlation between tidal distress, the moon and triggering of earthquakes. It's not a matter of if an earthquake strikes where I live, it's just a matter of when living on the West Coast. What if space could help predict when Earthquakes were going to happen.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tide.html
Maybe they could just stop fracking.
Yes because there was never an earthquake before fracking. lol
The findings of the Unites States Geological Survey, under "induced eartquakes."
"Between the years 1973–2008, there was an average of 21 earthquakes of magnitude three and larger in the central and eastern United States. This rate has ballooned to over 600 M3+ earthquakes in 2014 and over 1000 in 2015. Through August 2016, over 500 M3+ earthquakes have occurred in 2016."
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/induced/
"They don't blame it on fracking, they blame it on injected wastewater, some of which is done during fracking.
So what you are saying is that even if we stop fracking, we will continue to have earthquakes right? Also, would you agree that earthquakes occurred before fracking?
EDIT: Even the site you quoted that from states that it is a myth. You can pick and choose what information you choose to support an argument. Because that's well...psuedo-science. Wastewater disposal occurs even with regular oil production so stopping fracking won't do a damn thing.
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/induced/myths.php
First, please note that I did say that matter of fact, here is me quoting myself (did you read that part?)
"They don't blame it on fracking, they blame it on injected wastewater, some of which is done during fracking."
The point is, wastewater injection happens during fracking. If they stop fracking, they reduce the wastewater injection. Makes sense?
In addition, yet another quote:
Hydraulic fracturing drives earthquakes in western Canada, according to research published Thursday in Science. The results defy the often-touted belief that the disposal of wastewater is the sole source of man-made earthquakes with fossil fuel extraction technique.
The small earthquakes “were always during or right after fracking, and they’re also confined to a limited area,” University of Calgary geophysicist, and co-author of the research paper David Eaton told NewsHour. Before fracking, the sparsely populated area in Alberta, Canada did not have a history of seismic activity."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/rundown/earthquakes-triggered-by-fracking
Except the original post was "It's not a matter of if an earthquake strikes where I live, it's just a matter of when living on the West Coast. What if space could help predict when Earthquakes were going to happen." to which you replied "Maybe they could just stop fracking."
Even if we stopped fracking there would still be earthquakes so it's a completely moot point. Earthquakes occurred long before fracking, they will continue to occur long after fracking. Do you disagree with this statement?
We focused on different things.
In the post, they also stated, "It's also interesting that people studying this stuff think there could be a correlation between tidal distress, the moon and triggering of earthquakes.
Eathquakes did occur before fracking and would still occur after it. I agree with that statement.
Going from 21 to 1000 magnitude 3 or higher earthquakes is a huge jump. That's more than a 4700% increase in just a few years. So if they stopped inducing earthquakes through fracking and wastewater injection, people would have to deal with a lot less earthquakes, would you agree?
No I don't agree. You posted two sites that basically contradict each other. One says fracking is not the cause, the other says it is. So I guess it depends on which one you believe but until it is proven to me otherwise, it's just a bunch of psuedo-science.
I would just like to clarify with my use of the word triggering. I did not mean with man made earthquakes. I was talking about the moons influence on the tides and natural occurring earthquakes. Fracking for petroleum wasn't even a thought.
Boom! Moot point.
Only in your world did that require such elation.
Or maybe I am just too calm all the time.
Either way, enjoy your day!
"Well actually, we are always parting ways and not parting ways in every conceivable combination. Many physicists, including Stephen Hawking, now believe that there is an infinite number of universes — it's called multiverse theory — and it suggests that there are an infinite number of universes in which it did not require such elation."
And what does that have to do with the dog pee on the curtains.
I posted the video, remember.
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Anyone try reading and understanding the EmDrive propulsion report releases this last week? The leaked stuff has started a buzz again and there is a lot more chatter now that NASA finally officially released the findings.
If you are a physics person I am sure you already know, but I have been trying to follow this since it was present. Parsing through the data and such now myself, though I understand very little of the higher level technical stuff.
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NorthCascades wrote: »GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »Even if we stopped fracking there would still be earthquakes so it's a completely moot point. Earthquakes occurred long before fracking, they will continue to occur long after fracking. Do you disagree with this statement?
But fracking seams to cause moar earthquakes. Like how there are car crashes, but drunk people driving cars makes it worse. Or like how any one of us could get killed any minute from a grand piano falling out of the sky, but it's especially dangerous at a piano toss. Anyway, making things less dangerous is usually good, that's why you don't juggle cats.
Truth be told i have never seen a cat juggle but i have seen a horse fly and a cigar box so....0 -
NorthCascades wrote: »Now we're getting philosophical. It depends what you mean by "reality." If reality is what you can see with your eyes and nothing else, then it's exactly this. People are showing you something, but it's not reality. On the other hand, if your eyes are one way to perceive reality among many, then that's why.
And even then, what the eyes 'see' is then processed by the brain to make sense of it. So two people who 'see' the exact same thing may perceive it differently.
The brain is another fascinating thing!
Hahaha I've seen this one before and still cracks me up.. some lunatic conspiracy theorist who thinks the lunar landing was a hoax....too funny
Now there's something I vaguely remember reading about a few years ago... Wasn't there supposed to be some Japanese "super telescope" coming into operation at some point, that would be able to see the moon clearly enough to view the human footprints and the various bits of equipment we've left up there? It was talked about as providing proof that we really were there. I did a (very) quick search and found articles about a lunar orbiter that took photos a few years ago, but nothing from Earth.
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NorthCascades wrote: »GnothiSeauton23 wrote: »Even if we stopped fracking there would still be earthquakes so it's a completely moot point. Earthquakes occurred long before fracking, they will continue to occur long after fracking. Do you disagree with this statement?
But fracking seams to cause moar earthquakes. Like how there are car crashes, but drunk people driving cars makes it worse. Or like how any one of us could get killed any minute from a grand piano falling out of the sky, but it's especially dangerous at a piano toss. Anyway, making things less dangerous is usually good, that's why you don't juggle cats.
Truth be told i have never seen a cat juggle but i have seen a horse fly and a cigar box so....
Time flies like an arrow. Well, yeah, but what don't time flies like?0 -
I can imagine that conspiracy theorists would still say that the photos could be faked, since they can't go to a telescope and see for themselves. Although even then, I'm sure they'd come up with some reason why that view could be faked as well!
THE MOON: A Propaganda Hoax
An Expose by
THE MAD REVISIONIST
What evidence do we have that there really is a moon?- You can see it.
- But don't all qualified scientists and astronomers agree that there is a moon?
- But who could or would perpetrate such a hoax?
- What about that "moon landing" that took place in 1969, and all of the subsequent "moon landings", as well as pictures taken by satellites and telescopes?
- But don't the astronauts who claim to have walked on the moon count as eyewitnesses?
- And what about the "moon rocks" that these astronauts brought back with them?
- Hasn't the moon been mentioned in texts and literature throughout history?
- But what motive could someone have for falsifying the moon?
- But the Moon was worshipped by the ancients, long before there was the technology to create such a hoax.
- What about references to the moon in the Bible?
- The tides of the oceans are created by the gravatational pull of the moon.
- Okay, but I still find this all hard to believe. What evidence do you have that there is no moon?
A cash reward of $100,000 has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed.0 -
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Anyone try reading and understanding the EmDrive propulsion report releases this last week? The leaked stuff has started a buzz again and there is a lot more chatter now that NASA finally officially released the findings.
If you are a physics person I am sure you already know, but I have been trying to follow this since it was present. Parsing through the data and such now myself, though I understand very little of the higher level technical stuff.
I didn't know what you were talking about until now.
NASA Team Claims ‘Impossible’ Space Engine Works—Get the Facts
In theory, such a lightweight engine could one day send a spacecraft to Mars in just 70 days.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/11/nasa-impossible-emdrive-physics-peer-review-space-science/0 -
Can the thread be renamed please? Every single time I see the thread title I instantly hear Leonard Nimoy "The final frontier"...
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NASA compiled a list of the best air-cleaning plants for your home. Make sure they aren't poisonous to any pets you may have. For example, the peace lily is poisonous to cats.
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PlaydohPants wrote: »I tried to read @Timshel_ 's link when he posted and it started out ok...radio frequency alright I can do this I've done ultrasonics...it lost me somewhere around superposition
Essentially the quandary is this:
The EM Drive bounces microwaves around in a cone to create propulsion. However, the drive and physics of how this actually works breaks Newtons third law that for every action there is a equal or greater reaction. The propulsion has no measurable or observable reaction that is creating the thrust, but it does. The article cee posted above does a great job breaking it all down.
Interestingly, Star Trek always used Newtons Third law principle in how warp drives operate, which is the reaction of matter and anti-matter, which could be tied into how the EM Drive works.
Where pseudo-science might cross with science, which is what Roddenberry, or Verne, or Serling all strived for.
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