The illusive 6 pack

boxa00
boxa00 Posts: 33 Member
edited November 13 in Fitness and Exercise
Any tips on how to get rid of the last layer of fat for your 6 pack to show?
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  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    A calorie deficit.
  • boxa00
    boxa00 Posts: 33 Member
    Damn it. It's Christmas season. Food tastes to good.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    A calorie deficit.

    And pick up heavy stuff to develop muscles.
  • #trapsoverabs
  • solarpower03
    solarpower03 Posts: 12,161 Member
    Google stubborn fat protocol by Lyle McDonald
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    boxa00 wrote: »
    Damn it. It's Christmas season. Food tastes to good.

    Pretty much why no one cuts during xmas time.

    Just me then :'(
  • coleg04
    coleg04 Posts: 126 Member
    Google stubborn fat protocol by Lyle McDonald

    awesome share
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    boxa00 wrote: »
    Damn it. It's Christmas season. Food tastes to good.

    Pretty much why no one cuts during xmas time.

    Just me then :'(

    And me...but only because I put on about 10 Lbs when I was injured late summer and through the fall...I usually put on about 10 Lbs over winter and I can't do a combined 20 Lbs...so taking it easy for the next couple of months.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    boxa00 wrote: »
    Damn it. It's Christmas season. Food tastes to good.

    Pretty much why no one cuts during xmas time.

    Just me then :'(

    I'll be sort of cutting. Generally cutting, but having a couple (hopefully not many more than a 2-3) days of IDGAF.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    boxa00 wrote: »
    Damn it. It's Christmas season. Food tastes to good.

    Pretty much why no one cuts during xmas time.

    Just me then :'(

    I'll be sort of cutting. Generally cutting, but having a couple (hopefully not many more than a 2-3) days of IDGAF.

    "Re-feed days" ;)
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    Works for me.

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  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    Just keep on eating less and exercising more. No need to specifically target the abs if you're doing core intensive exercises, like deadlifts, squats and OHPs. I got mine doing nothing more than this.
  • peaceout_aly
    peaceout_aly Posts: 2,018 Member
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    Just keep on eating less and exercising more. No need to specifically target the abs if you're doing core intensive exercises, like deadlifts, squats and OHPs. I got mine doing nothing more than this.

    Everyone says this but I've been squatting and deadlifting and doing planks and weighted double crunches for a year now and still no abs to show except maybe a little oblique action, LOL
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited December 2016
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    Just keep on eating less and exercising more. No need to specifically target the abs if you're doing core intensive exercises, like deadlifts, squats and OHPs. I got mine doing nothing more than this.

    Everyone says this but I've been squatting and deadlifting and doing planks and weighted double crunches for a year now and still no abs to show except maybe a little oblique action, LOL

    A lot of that is simply genetic...I know a lot of really lean and fit women and only one with an actual six pack...it's harder for women. Also women have higher essential BF...my friend with a six pack is crazy lean when she has it, but she doesn't maintain that all of the time...it's too lean for her to walk around like that all of the time.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    edited December 2016
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    Just keep on eating less and exercising more. No need to specifically target the abs if you're doing core intensive exercises, like deadlifts, squats and OHPs. I got mine doing nothing more than this.

    Everyone says this but I've been squatting and deadlifting and doing planks and weighted double crunches for a year now and still no abs to show except maybe a little oblique action, LOL

    Unfortunately for women, your genetics make it fundamentally more difficulty to get your abs to show.

    Women who do show them, if they're not on steroids, genrerally have to lose much more BF (as compared w/men) to achieve it. Doesn't mean you can't achieve it, it's just more difficult.

    Sorry, that's Just the way it is.
  • peaceout_aly
    peaceout_aly Posts: 2,018 Member
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    Just keep on eating less and exercising more. No need to specifically target the abs if you're doing core intensive exercises, like deadlifts, squats and OHPs. I got mine doing nothing more than this.

    Everyone says this but I've been squatting and deadlifting and doing planks and weighted double crunches for a year now and still no abs to show except maybe a little oblique action, LOL

    Unfortunately for women, your genetics make it fundamentally more difficulty to get your abs to show.

    Women who do show them, if they're not on steroids, genrerally have to lose much more BF (as compared w/men) to achieve it. Doesn't mean you can't achieve it, it's just more difficult.

    Sorry, that's Just the way it is.

    Damn men, you guys have it easy! LOL
  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    Just keep on eating less and exercising more. No need to specifically target the abs if you're doing core intensive exercises, like deadlifts, squats and OHPs. I got mine doing nothing more than this.

    Everyone says this but I've been squatting and deadlifting and doing planks and weighted double crunches for a year now and still no abs to show except maybe a little oblique action, LOL

    Unfortunately for women, your genetics make it fundamentally more difficulty to get your abs to show.

    Women who do show them, if they're not on steroids, genrerally have to lose much more BF (as compared w/men) to achieve it. Doesn't mean you can't achieve it, it's just more difficult.

    Sorry, that's Just the way it is.

    Damn men, you guys have it easy! LOL

    I've had my abs cut wide open like for a baby elephant to come out. Stop damming us...
  • jessef593
    jessef593 Posts: 2,272 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    A calorie deficit.

    And pick up heavy stuff to develop muscles.

    And dedication
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    I love how overly simplified the advice for getting abs is. If it was really that easy so many more people would be walking around with 6 packs.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    rybo wrote: »
    I love how overly simplified the advice for getting abs is. If it was really that easy so many more people would be walking around with 6 packs.

    It's not really the process that is hard, it's the implementation of the process that is very difficult. It is just really difficult to get that lean for a lot of people. And when some do, they don't have adequate body composition to achieve the aesthetic they desire.


    Having said that, I don't have a six pack yet due to my body fat % is too high.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    For my 6 pack to appear definitively, it took 12-16 weeks of hard dieting. This was usually for competitions. Do I have a 6 pack now? Not even close. A distinguished 2-4 pack if I flex. All a 6 pack denotes is that you have low body fat. And staying that low take A LOT of effort for me. Meaning that I feel pretty miserable for the last 6 weeks of diet prep. Not worth it IMO.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    edited December 2016
    psuLemon wrote: »
    It's not really the process that is hard, it's the implementation of the process that is very difficult. It is just really difficult to get that lean for a lot of people. And when some do, they don't have adequate body composition to achieve the aesthetic they desire.

    Agreed. It took a lot of hard work (cardio and lifting), dedication and discipline (logging cals and controlling diet daily) to produce visible abs, especially at my advanced age of 66.

    FWIW, my last hydro test (just a few days ago in December) had me at 12.1% BF/161# down from 16.9%/166# from 2 months in late September.

    My DXA scan in August was 20.3%/172#, October 16.0%/167# and November 16.4%/162#. Just "knew" that the last DXA BF% results were WRONG because they didn't synch with the others. Took the hydro test again this month to refute those results and to confirm the trend, as well as what my instincts told me.

    This is the lowest in BF%/weight that I've had since 4 years ago when I was at 12.5%/158# but this time I've got more LBM (141.5 vs 138.15) and a little less fat (19.5 vs 19.85). My LBM went up on a deficit diet and I've done this twice over the past 4 years, which I mainly attribute to my high protein diet (40%) and heavy lifting program.

    The even harder part now will be maintaining my BF/weight at these levels which will be my goal from now on.



  • boxa00
    boxa00 Posts: 33 Member
    How do you find out my body weight fat %. I used to have a set of scales that told me however I never really believed it was accurate and the ex took them. !!

    I'm doing 2 days of boxing training and 3 days weight training which includes front squats and deadlifts.

    I'm already lean now it's just harder to get leaner.

    It's the Christmas time dinners and business lunches that are weighing me down (pardon the pun).

    Time to start taking my own food to the next event......
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    boxa00 wrote: »
    How do you find out my body weight fat %. I used to have a set of scales that told me however I never really believed it was accurate and the ex took them. !!

    I'm doing 2 days of boxing training and 3 days weight training which includes front squats and deadlifts.

    I'm already lean now it's just harder to get leaner.

    It's the Christmas time dinners and business lunches that are weighing me down (pardon the pun).

    Time to start taking my own food to the next event......

    The most accurate way is DXA scan or Hydostatic. A semi-accurate is get a trained professional to do a multi-point caliper test (I prefer at least 7-9).

    IRT your weight training, are you following a self designed program or is it a proven structured program?
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    For my 6 pack to appear definitively, it took 12-16 weeks of hard dieting. This was usually for competitions. Do I have a 6 pack now? Not even close. A distinguished 2-4 pack if I flex. All a 6 pack denotes is that you have low body fat. And staying that low take A LOT of effort for me. Meaning that I feel pretty miserable for the last 6 weeks of diet prep. Not worth it IMO.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    I have a similar experience. I also have to say that in order to achieve a six pack it requires me to lose the extra oomph from my face. While i appreciate the abs, i don't think the rest of my body looks it's best at that level of body fat. And of course, it is completely unsustainable for me. I actually usually maintain in the low 20's of body fat.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    edited December 2016
    psuLemon wrote: »
    boxa00 wrote: »
    How do you find out my body weight fat %. I used to have a set of scales that told me however I never really believed it was accurate and the ex took them. !!

    I'm doing 2 days of boxing training and 3 days weight training which includes front squats and deadlifts.

    I'm already lean now it's just harder to get leaner.

    It's the Christmas time dinners and business lunches that are weighing me down (pardon the pun).

    Time to start taking my own food to the next event......

    The most accurate way is DXA scan or Hydostatic. A semi-accurate is get a trained professional to do a multi-point caliper test (I prefer at least 7-9).

    IRT your weight training, are you following a self designed program or is it a proven structured program?

    In addition to the two accurate methods i'd add in order of accuracy:
    Dexa Scan
    Hydrostatic Weighing
    Bod Pod
    (all of these can be done in a physicians office for around $100)
    Calipers (done by someone else not yourself, and a 9 point test)
    BIA devices (scales, handheld, etc.)
    Visual


    In any case, depending on your current level of body fat i've heard good things about the stubborn fat loss protocol by lyle mcdonald. I personally can't handle stimulants (caffiene or yohimbine) so I couldn't do it.
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    boxa00 wrote: »
    Damn it. It's Christmas season. Food tastes to good.

    Pretty much why no one cuts during xmas time.

    I tried.... It gave the biggest case of the sads... :cry:
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