Is eating 5000 calories per day doable
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TIL: carbs are not good pre-workout foods.3
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And Ronnie Coleman at a 2 whole pepperoni pizzas the day before he won his 6th MR. OLYMPIA and Jay Cutler use to eat candy post workout. You are talking about people who are loaded on drugs, diet pills etc. They are the 1%, you and I are not. They can get away with it, we cannot.0
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Shes eating sugar pre-workout I am not sure why. Post workout she eats sugar because SOME research has shown that sugar post workout is actually beneficial to your muscles. Keep in mind the research that has been done on this shows that the gains you get from sugar in your post workout is so minimal many of us will never see the results from it. IF you are stepping onto stage in a bodybuilding competition or fitness competition and want EVERY little edge you can get then perhaps sugar POST workout may give you that slight edge. IF you want to step onto stage as a bodybuilder or if youre a woman and its a Physique show or Fitness show I would avoid sugars in your daily diet. Sugars from fruits is fine but adding sugar or eating sugary things should be avoided when possible. Again, IF stepping onto stage is your goal.
Dorian Yates ate candy leading up til and during show week, FYI.2 -
No one said you had to want to step onto stage. But this is a bodybuilding thread. If you want to debate sugar on another thread that is fine. But if you are someone who aspires to step onto stage I would avoid sugars as I stated above.
i was not aware that this forum was only for those that want to step on stage for a body building contest...
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must be a slow day on bb.com11
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We all know what "clean" food is. You are more the Rich Piana diet I am more the Kai Greene, Jay Cutler diet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-JMPiZHUXo 3 -
Again we arent Jay Cutler we arent Dorian Yates. Guy who are on a TREMENDOUS ammt. of drugs and have so much lean muscle mass their bodies burn off sugar intake so easily. They are the 1%, we are not0
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And I have seen that vid with Jay and he says he DOES NOT reccomend that others do what he does by eating candy post workout0
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Again we arent Jay Cutler we arent Dorian Yates. Guy who are on a TREMENDOUS ammt. of drugs and have so much lean muscle mass their bodies burn off sugar intake so easily. They are the 1%, we are not
You're not Kai Greene and Jay Cutler, so why base a diet off them then?
Strong logic is strong.9 -
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Well this is a WEIGHT GAINING & BODYBUILDING thread so I am assuming the people here are into eating clean I would hope lol.....Nothing wrong or "unclean" about white rice, its all I eat when I eat rice. White rice actually digests much easier than brown rice. Nothing not clean about white rice at all.
It's only just become a body building forum - before,it was just weight gain. Some of us are here to gain weight because we're underweight but it seems to me that focus has gone.5 -
Well this is a WEIGHT GAINING & BODYBUILDING thread so I am assuming the people here are into eating clean I would hope lol.....Nothing wrong or "unclean" about white rice, its all I eat when I eat rice. White rice actually digests much easier than brown rice. Nothing not clean about white rice at all.
you know what happens when you assume, right...?3 -
Just for clarification, the OP (post, not poster) didn't mention anything about bodybuilding. Not that it matters, really.
It did mention building size, mass, muscle. Yeah - eating "clean" is completely not necessary for that. Avoiding sugars, IMO, is fairly "bad" for that.
I don't think many, if any, would disagree that one would (nearly always) look to clean up one's diet and cut out excess carbs during competition prep. But that's not what the OP was about.2 -
Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
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The bro-science is way too strong in here. I'm out7
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French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.4 -
But Judge, the internet said it was okay to eat him!French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
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KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
If you personally define it as clean, it can be added to the list, LOL. What can be cleaner than the German Purity Law of 1477??
(The collection showcases that there are so many definitions of clean that it is basically a useless term, except for when it is handy for preening, posturing, and holier-than-thou arguments. Panera assures me all their foods are clean, so here I am, snackin' on a Cinnamon Crunch Bagel with Honey-Walnut Cream Cheese....clean bulk!!!!)2 -
French_Peasant wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
If you personally define it as clean, it can be added to the list, LOL. What can be cleaner than the German Purity Law of 1477??
(The collection showcases that there are so many definitions of clean that it is basically a useless term, except for when it is handy for preening, posturing, and holier-than-thou arguments. Panera assures me all their foods are clean, so here I am, snackin' on a Cinnamon Crunch Bagel with Honey-Walnut Cream Cheese....clean bulk!!!!)
You got me on the German Purity Law. I think they go well on weekends !
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Don't eat foods that have a mascot?0
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comptonelizabeth wrote: »Don't eat foods that have a mascot?
I don't get it either... I had some edamame with a happy soy bean... I guess those aren't good then boo0 -
comptonelizabeth wrote: »Don't eat foods that have a mascot?
If you read the thread, these were all definitions that were collected from the MFP forums. Pretty amusing. And even more amusing when someone acts like there is one definition of clean and everyone knows what it is.
My definition of "clean" is raised in my own personal organic garden, nourished by magical fairy rainbows and the poop from the world's most adorable bunnies and ponies, and watered with dew drops and unicorn tears.2 -
trigden1991 wrote: »The bro-science is way too strong in here. I'm out
I was warned, but I read anyway... And instantly got a headache from reading the bro science. **IM OUT**
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Do I have this right?
Polysaccharides (starches including rice, taters, etc) are metabolized into monosaccharides.
Disaccharides (sucrose from fruits and veggies, lactose, etc) are metabolized into monosaccharides.
Non-glucose monosaccharides (fructose, galactose) are eventually metabolized in glucose.
Dehydrated sugar cane (sucrose) is metabolized directly into human body fat. Just because.6
But I just finished to cook my rice owww *sad* 
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