Everyone is an "expert"
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LolBroScience wrote: »You are right guys I am so sorry. These guy and gals are trained by some of the top minds in nutrition and fitness. Guys like Hany Rambod. But hey you are right, Jay and other guys were not guided and trained by the top minds in the fitness industry and those people know NOTHING about nutrition which is the most IMPORTANT aspect of bodybuilding, mens physqiue, womens physique, womens bikini etc. Diet plays no role, hey they just follow CICO right and thats all the people like Hany tell them to do.
Thoughts OP?
In b4 "he never placed first so he's irrelevant"
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LolBroScience wrote: »You are right guys I am so sorry. These guy and gals are trained by some of the top minds in nutrition and fitness. Guys like Hany Rambod. But hey you are right, Jay and other guys were not guided and trained by the top minds in the fitness industry and those people know NOTHING about nutrition which is the most IMPORTANT aspect of bodybuilding, mens physqiue, womens physique, womens bikini etc. Diet plays no role, hey they just follow CICO right and thats all the people like Hany tell them to do.
Thoughts OP?
In b4 "he never placed first so he's irrelevant"
These kind of revelations are so nice to read. Cannot wait until OP has one.3 -
Level of Evidence:
Meta-analysis > Random Clinical Trial >...............>>> Expert opinion>Bro-scientist=Anecdote.....all the way down to the lowest depth of Marketing department/advertising1 -
The issue really isn't about facts or knowledge. Exercise philosophies and advice resembles religion much more in my opinion. It's like a Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, Scientology nut and a Catholic nun trying to come to an agreement, each of course stating they have the truth; meaning facts, when in fact they are all the blind leading the blind. I personally get results when I take action. You are what you do.0
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There are lots of great athletes in every sport. That DOESN'T necessarily mean they would be great coaches or leaders. I mean by that analogy, Ronnie Coleman should be listened to more than Jay because he has more Sandows. Oh and replaced hips too.
Yes I do. I think someone who dedicated themselves to fine tuning their bodies beyond what we can conceive can give solid advice in diet and training. They are the best of the best in training and diet.
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36,922 posts.... Were they all ego posts with your titles and zero progress? Guess you're not looking for any gains, aka muscle mass? You're like the guy in the office that has all of his diplomas, certifications and of course the class completion certificates framed and posted on the wall for all to see. Perhaps you have the delusion that this actually gives you more credibility with commentators in the opinions you post? You don't ego lift as well do you? You know, sacrificing form to stack on more plates? Yeah, it's kind of like that.0 -
drakeshattuck wrote: »
There are lots of great athletes in every sport. That DOESN'T necessarily mean they would be great coaches or leaders. I mean by that analogy, Ronnie Coleman should be listened to more than Jay because he has more Sandows. Oh and replaced hips too.
Yes I do. I think someone who dedicated themselves to fine tuning their bodies beyond what we can conceive can give solid advice in diet and training. They are the best of the best in training and diet.
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Getbig misses you.I cant help but laugh as I post one comment and I get all kinds of hate for it. Im def smiling. Love this place
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36,922 posts.... Were they all ego posts with your titles and zero progress? Guess you're not looking for any gains, aka muscle mass? You're like the guy in the office that has all of his diplomas, certifications and of course the class completion certificates framed and posted on the wall for all to see. Perhaps you have the delusion that this actually gives you more credibility with commentators in the opinions you post? You don't ego lift as well do you? You know, sacrificing form to stack on more plates? Yeah, it's kind of like that.
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Well that's your opinion. There's SOLID SCIENCE behind how certain exercise philosophies work dependent on what one is trying to achieve. Unlike religion, it doesn't require faith and have actual peer reviewed studies to back them up. People who use "woo" as their philosophy will get questioned here.drakeshattuck wrote: »The issue really isn't about facts or knowledge. Exercise philosophies and advice resembles religion much more in my opinion. It's like a Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, Scientology nut and a Catholic nun trying to come to an agreement, each of course stating they have the truth; meaning facts, when in fact they are all the blind leading the blind. I personally get results when I take action. You are what you do.
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Oh sorry, I reset it at the beginning of the year like I do every year.drakeshattuck wrote: »
There are lots of great athletes in every sport. That DOESN'T necessarily mean they would be great coaches or leaders. I mean by that analogy, Ronnie Coleman should be listened to more than Jay because he has more Sandows. Oh and replaced hips too.
Yes I do. I think someone who dedicated themselves to fine tuning their bodies beyond what we can conceive can give solid advice in diet and training. They are the best of the best in training and diet.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Getbig misses you.I cant help but laugh as I post one comment and I get all kinds of hate for it. Im def smiling. Love this place
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
36,922 posts.... Were they all ego posts with your titles and zero progress?
Nope. Adding mass at my age only adds more weight and not great for my joints.Guess you're not looking for any gains, aka muscle mass?
No delusion. I do it for a living and do fine giving out advice here and with clients. If not, then I'd be out of a job.You're like the guy in the office that has all of his diplomas, certifications and of course the class completion certificates framed and posted on the wall for all to see. Perhaps you have the delusion that this actually gives you more credibility with commentators in the opinions you post?
Nope, don't ego lift either. I've posted on here many times my unimpressive lifts. I've never been really strong at all.You don't ego lift as well do you? You know, sacrificing form to stack on more plates? Yeah, it's kind of like that.
Anything else?
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drakeshattuck wrote: »
There are lots of great athletes in every sport. That DOESN'T necessarily mean they would be great coaches or leaders. I mean by that analogy, Ronnie Coleman should be listened to more than Jay because he has more Sandows. Oh and replaced hips too.
Yes I do. I think someone who dedicated themselves to fine tuning their bodies beyond what we can conceive can give solid advice in diet and training. They are the best of the best in training and diet.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Getbig misses you.I cant help but laugh as I post one comment and I get all kinds of hate for it. Im def smiling. Love this place
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
36,922 posts.... Were they all ego posts with your titles and zero progress? Guess you're not looking for any gains, aka muscle mass? You're like the guy in the office that has all of his diplomas, certifications and of course the class completion certificates framed and posted on the wall for all to see. Perhaps you have the delusion that this actually gives you more credibility with commentators in the opinions you post? You don't ego lift as well do you? You know, sacrificing form to stack on more plates? Yeah, it's kind of like that.
You're kidding right? Niner is one off the most knowledgable and informative people on here. He's open to fact based opinions and ideologies, but will crush drug based bro science with every ounce of science based fact he has. Besides if you had seen one of his previous profile pics you'd realize that this guy has a level of muscle mass to be strived for. Soooo calm down a bit, rethink what you are trying to get at, and have an intelligent conversation absent of accusations and insecurities.
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