Different words for the same things depending on which country you're in.
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pebble4321 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »I'll also just mention ... potato chips.
In Canada, my favourite flavour is dill pickle. In Australia, I cannot find dill pickle chips. In fact, dill pickles are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles which are really quite ick.
In Australia, a common potato chip flavour is chicken. In fact, there's chicken salt that goes on chips (the big, thick fries type of chips), dim sims, deep fried lasagne, battered fish, and whatever else you want to get at the take-away.
So true.
And chicken chips are not easy to find in Canada. I also miss Burger Rings! I miss meat pies, too.
As for chicken chips (fries), I just sprinkle some powdered chicken stock on my fries instead of salt...YUM!!!
Chicken chips? Never heard of such a thing. Chicken? Hmmm. People want their chips to taste like chicken?!
Ketchup chips are a Canadian thing. I don't like them much.
Smarties are a Canadian candy that looks like chocolate M&Ms. Rockets are cheap sugar candies than are called smarties in the US.
It's called chicken salt. What it tastes like is when you've roasted a chicken in the oven and have done the whole butter and salt and herbs thing on the skin so that it is a crispy golden brown. Like that. Not so much like chicken but more like the seasoning you'd put on chicken.
Chicken salt is food of the gods. So tasty.
I think of Chicken Salt as being an Adelaide thing. As in when you get chips from the Chicken Shop (also an Adelaide thing) they will ask if you want chicken salt or regular salt. I haven't seen that anywhere else in Australia, but I guess i probably don't order chips much when I'm in Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane. And not often at home in WA either.
I see it around in Melbourne, but I'm from Adelaide originally and now that you mention it - they really do have a lot of chicken shops compared to other cities, don't they?0 -
Yeah, just about every suburb here has one or two fish n chip (chicken) shops. I've never ordered chips without being asked if i want salt or chicken salt, they always give you a choice between the two.0
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shelleyrhoads wrote: »In the US we have jam and jelly they are two separate spreads. Jam has seeds made from strawberry, blackberry ect. Jelly is smooth and usually grapes or plumbs. We are very technical with food and names here. Lol
Welllll . . . peach jam, grape jam, pear jam, etc. have fruit in them but no seeds.
Jelly is made from the juice of fruits (or sometimes from wine or something like that). Jam is made from more of the fruit, and may include the seeds if they're tiny and therefore hard to remove but easily eaten.
Jam usually has more sweetness/juice than fruit preserves (no hard & fast line between jam & preserves in my experience, though preserves tend toward bigger fruit chunks). Fruit butters (like apple butter) are cooked down to make them thick, whereas jams and jellies typically rely on sugar + pectin (the latter either inherent in the fruit or added) for thickness. Marmalade is in the same range, but I think the difference is that it's made from citrus and has skin in it.
Yes, we are technical about food and names here.
ETA: And let's not even get started on the differences between fruit crisp, crumble, cobbler, crump, brown betty, . . . !3 -
pebble4321 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »I'll also just mention ... potato chips.
In Canada, my favourite flavour is dill pickle. In Australia, I cannot find dill pickle chips. In fact, dill pickles are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles which are really quite ick.
In Australia, a common potato chip flavour is chicken. In fact, there's chicken salt that goes on chips (the big, thick fries type of chips), dim sims, deep fried lasagne, battered fish, and whatever else you want to get at the take-away.
So true.
And chicken chips are not easy to find in Canada. I also miss Burger Rings! I miss meat pies, too.
As for chicken chips (fries), I just sprinkle some powdered chicken stock on my fries instead of salt...YUM!!!
Chicken chips? Never heard of such a thing. Chicken? Hmmm. People want their chips to taste like chicken?!
Ketchup chips are a Canadian thing. I don't like them much.
Smarties are a Canadian candy that looks like chocolate M&Ms. Rockets are cheap sugar candies than are called smarties in the US.
It's called chicken salt. What it tastes like is when you've roasted a chicken in the oven and have done the whole butter and salt and herbs thing on the skin so that it is a crispy golden brown. Like that. Not so much like chicken but more like the seasoning you'd put on chicken.
Chicken salt is food of the gods. So tasty.
I think of Chicken Salt as being an Adelaide thing. As in when you get chips from the Chicken Shop (also an Adelaide thing) they will ask if you want chicken salt or regular salt. I haven't seen that anywhere else in Australia, but I guess i probably don't order chips much when I'm in Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane. And not often at home in WA either.
Definitely in WA...0 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »pebble4321 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »I'll also just mention ... potato chips.
In Canada, my favourite flavour is dill pickle. In Australia, I cannot find dill pickle chips. In fact, dill pickles are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles which are really quite ick.
In Australia, a common potato chip flavour is chicken. In fact, there's chicken salt that goes on chips (the big, thick fries type of chips), dim sims, deep fried lasagne, battered fish, and whatever else you want to get at the take-away.
So true.
And chicken chips are not easy to find in Canada. I also miss Burger Rings! I miss meat pies, too.
As for chicken chips (fries), I just sprinkle some powdered chicken stock on my fries instead of salt...YUM!!!
Chicken chips? Never heard of such a thing. Chicken? Hmmm. People want their chips to taste like chicken?!
Ketchup chips are a Canadian thing. I don't like them much.
Smarties are a Canadian candy that looks like chocolate M&Ms. Rockets are cheap sugar candies than are called smarties in the US.
It's called chicken salt. What it tastes like is when you've roasted a chicken in the oven and have done the whole butter and salt and herbs thing on the skin so that it is a crispy golden brown. Like that. Not so much like chicken but more like the seasoning you'd put on chicken.
Chicken salt is food of the gods. So tasty.
I think of Chicken Salt as being an Adelaide thing. As in when you get chips from the Chicken Shop (also an Adelaide thing) they will ask if you want chicken salt or regular salt. I haven't seen that anywhere else in Australia, but I guess i probably don't order chips much when I'm in Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane. And not often at home in WA either.
Definitely in WA...
I mustn't be ordering chips often enough!0 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »williams969 wrote: »Don't you call the flat work surface in a kitchen the benchtop, @Christine_72 ? Im the US, a bench is something one sits on at a park or a person has in his workshop/toolshed for woodworking or fixing things, lol.
Edit, the kitchen surface is a counter in the US, which I suppose makes zero sense for a name, too lol.
yup, we have a kitchen bench in aus
we also call the thing you sit on in the park a bench...
we also have a splash back, not a back splash....we have so much american tv (including reno/flip programs) so i keep mixing them up!!
we have scones in aus (and UK) - i'm sure they're biscuits in the US
lollies - sweets/candy
mince - ground meat
On that note though one of the things that threw me when I moved to the UK (Swede here) was that mince pies have nothing to do with meat and that the 'mince meat' filling is actually a mix of currants/raisins etc.
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »pebble4321 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »I'll also just mention ... potato chips.
In Canada, my favourite flavour is dill pickle. In Australia, I cannot find dill pickle chips. In fact, dill pickles are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles which are really quite ick.
In Australia, a common potato chip flavour is chicken. In fact, there's chicken salt that goes on chips (the big, thick fries type of chips), dim sims, deep fried lasagne, battered fish, and whatever else you want to get at the take-away.
So true.
And chicken chips are not easy to find in Canada. I also miss Burger Rings! I miss meat pies, too.
As for chicken chips (fries), I just sprinkle some powdered chicken stock on my fries instead of salt...YUM!!!
Chicken chips? Never heard of such a thing. Chicken? Hmmm. People want their chips to taste like chicken?!
Ketchup chips are a Canadian thing. I don't like them much.
Smarties are a Canadian candy that looks like chocolate M&Ms. Rockets are cheap sugar candies than are called smarties in the US.
It's called chicken salt. What it tastes like is when you've roasted a chicken in the oven and have done the whole butter and salt and herbs thing on the skin so that it is a crispy golden brown. Like that. Not so much like chicken but more like the seasoning you'd put on chicken.
Chicken salt is food of the gods. So tasty.
I think of Chicken Salt as being an Adelaide thing. As in when you get chips from the Chicken Shop (also an Adelaide thing) they will ask if you want chicken salt or regular salt. I haven't seen that anywhere else in Australia, but I guess i probably don't order chips much when I'm in Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane. And not often at home in WA either.
Definitely in WA...
I lived several years in Victoria, and I can't think of a take-away place that we stopped at (and we stopped at quite a few on our long rides) which didn't have chicken salt ... they all did.1 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »williams969 wrote: »Don't you call the flat work surface in a kitchen the benchtop, @Christine_72 ? Im the US, a bench is something one sits on at a park or a person has in his workshop/toolshed for woodworking or fixing things, lol.
Edit, the kitchen surface is a counter in the US, which I suppose makes zero sense for a name, too lol.
yup, we have a kitchen bench in aus we also call the thing you sit on in the park a bench...
we also have a splash back, not a back splash....we have so much american tv (including reno/flip programs) so i keep mixing them up!!
we have scones in aus (and UK) - i'm sure they're biscuits in the US
lollies - sweets/candy
mince - ground meat
On that note though one of the things that threw me when I moved to the UK (Swede here) was that mince pies have nothing to do with meat and that the 'mince meat' filling is actually a mix of currants/raisins etc.
Historically "mince meat" was a sweet concoction that DID contain meats. Sweetmeats (organ meats) if memory serves me.
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »williams969 wrote: »Don't you call the flat work surface in a kitchen the benchtop, @Christine_72 ? Im the US, a bench is something one sits on at a park or a person has in his workshop/toolshed for woodworking or fixing things, lol.
Edit, the kitchen surface is a counter in the US, which I suppose makes zero sense for a name, too lol.
yup, we have a kitchen bench in aus we also call the thing you sit on in the park a bench...
we also have a splash back, not a back splash....we have so much american tv (including reno/flip programs) so i keep mixing them up!!
we have scones in aus (and UK) - i'm sure they're biscuits in the US
lollies - sweets/candy
mince - ground meat
On that note though one of the things that threw me when I moved to the UK (Swede here) was that mince pies have nothing to do with meat and that the 'mince meat' filling is actually a mix of currants/raisins etc.
Historically "mince meat" was a sweet concoction that DID contain meats. Sweetmeats (organ meats) if memory serves me.
Yes, and even when I was growing up mince meat tarts were 95% fruit + a dab of suet as a token nod toward the sweetmeat origins of mince meat tarts.0 -
On that note though one of the things that threw me when I moved to the UK (Swede here) was that mince pies have nothing to do with meat and that the 'mince meat' filling is actually a mix of currants/raisins etc.
Historically "mince meat" was a sweet concoction that DID contain meats. Sweetmeats (organ meats) if memory serves me.
Yes, and even when I was growing up mince meat tarts were 95% fruit + a dab of suet as a token nod toward the sweetmeat origins of mince meat tarts.
Yep, I think the mincemeat my mum used to buy had suet in it, although I'm not sure if any brands still include that these days. My hubby was SO happy when mincemeat became easier to find in our part of Canada so that I could make mince pies for him! (I hate the stuff myself!)
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North America: Bandaid/bandage
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shelleyrhoads wrote: »In the US we have jam and jelly they are two separate spreads. Jam has seeds made from strawberry, blackberry ect. Jelly is smooth and usually grapes or plumbs. We are very technical with food and names here. Lol
Welllll . . . peach jam, grape jam, pear jam, etc. have fruit in them but no seeds.
Jelly is made from the juice of fruits (or sometimes from wine or something like that). Jam is made from more of the fruit, and may include the seeds if they're tiny and therefore hard to remove but easily eaten.
Jam usually has more sweetness/juice than fruit preserves (no hard & fast line between jam & preserves in my experience, though preserves tend toward bigger fruit chunks). Fruit butters (like apple butter) are cooked down to make them thick, whereas jams and jellies typically rely on sugar + pectin (the latter either inherent in the fruit or added) for thickness. Marmalade is in the same range, but I think the difference is that it's made from citrus and has skin in it.
Yes, we are technical about food and names here.
ETA: And let's not even get started on the differences between fruit crisp, crumble, cobbler, crump, brown betty, . . . !
Lol yes but it could be a regional thing but I have never heard of grape, peach, or pear jam, just jellies. Lol but there is also pear and apple butter.
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I made a peach compote to complement my pancakes.1
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shelleyrhoads wrote: »shelleyrhoads wrote: »In the US we have jam and jelly they are two separate spreads. Jam has seeds made from strawberry, blackberry ect. Jelly is smooth and usually grapes or plumbs. We are very technical with food and names here. Lol
Welllll . . . peach jam, grape jam, pear jam, etc. have fruit in them but no seeds.
Jelly is made from the juice of fruits (or sometimes from wine or something like that). Jam is made from more of the fruit, and may include the seeds if they're tiny and therefore hard to remove but easily eaten.
Jam usually has more sweetness/juice than fruit preserves (no hard & fast line between jam & preserves in my experience, though preserves tend toward bigger fruit chunks). Fruit butters (like apple butter) are cooked down to make them thick, whereas jams and jellies typically rely on sugar + pectin (the latter either inherent in the fruit or added) for thickness. Marmalade is in the same range, but I think the difference is that it's made from citrus and has skin in it.
Yes, we are technical about food and names here.
ETA: And let's not even get started on the differences between fruit crisp, crumble, cobbler, crump, brown betty, . . . !
Lol yes but it could be a regional thing but I have never heard of grape, peach, or pear jam, just jellies. Lol but there is also pear and apple butter.
I suspect that it's mostly that grocery stores tend to feature boring things that "everyone eats". While I've seen these jams in stores (especially peach), more commonly in specialty stores than standard grocery stores, I've actually made all of them.
Jam is easier to make than jelly, IMO. While you do have to remove big seeds (harder with grapes, but not amazingly so; very easy with peaches or pears), the fact that you need to turn a fruit into juice makes jellies more annoying to make at home from whole fruit. I can remember my mother putting grapes into a multi-layer cheesecloth bag that was suspended over a pan for hours so the grape juice could drain out for jelly, for example.
Sorry for the thread drift, folks.0 -
Soda, pop, soft drink, some areas in the states call all soda coke.
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Christine_72 wrote: »
We use the F word for cigarettes too. And we have a very popular brand of cheese who's name people find very racist, its C**n. I actually had an American friend ask me about it when she saw it in my diary
OMG - lucky I stopped smoking a lifetime ago - because that certainly was the appreviated name for the smoke -- and as per the cheese -- well - it was just the most popular cheese and it still exists - I never realised or more precise - I never thought about it - that our popular Brand of Cheese - is actually a negative name elsewhere -- mm -- I wonder if they will eventually rename the cheese brand name0 -
TestingStill4Me wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
We use the F word for cigarettes too. And we have a very popular brand of cheese who's name people find very racist, its C**n. I actually had an American friend ask me about it when she saw it in my diary
OMG - lucky I stopped smoking a lifetime ago - because that certainly was the appreviated name for the smoke -- and as per the cheese -- well - it was just the most popular cheese and it still exists - I never realised or more precise - I never thought about it - that our popular Brand of Cheese - is actually a negative name elsewhere -- mm -- I wonder if they will eventually rename the cheese brand name
I must know what cheese you speak of...0 -
My mother in law,who comes from a less enlightened generation,still refers to things as being "n***** brown " Makes me squirm each time I hear it.0
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pebble4321 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »I'll also just mention ... potato chips.
In Canada, my favourite flavour is dill pickle. In Australia, I cannot find dill pickle chips. In fact, dill pickles are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles which are really quite ick.
In Australia, a common potato chip flavour is chicken. In fact, there's chicken salt that goes on chips (the big, thick fries type of chips), dim sims, deep fried lasagne, battered fish, and whatever else you want to get at the take-away.
So true.
And chicken chips are not easy to find in Canada. I also miss Burger Rings! I miss meat pies, too.
As for chicken chips (fries), I just sprinkle some powdered chicken stock on my fries instead of salt...YUM!!!
Chicken chips? Never heard of such a thing. Chicken? Hmmm. People want their chips to taste like chicken?!
Ketchup chips are a Canadian thing. I don't like them much.
Smarties are a Canadian candy that looks like chocolate M&Ms. Rockets are cheap sugar candies than are called smarties in the US.
It's called chicken salt. What it tastes like is when you've roasted a chicken in the oven and have done the whole butter and salt and herbs thing on the skin so that it is a crispy golden brown. Like that. Not so much like chicken but more like the seasoning you'd put on chicken.
Chicken salt is food of the gods. So tasty.
I think of Chicken Salt as being an Adelaide thing. As in when you get chips from the Chicken Shop (also an Adelaide thing) they will ask if you want chicken salt or regular salt. I haven't seen that anywhere else in Australia, but I guess i probably don't order chips much when I'm in Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane. And not often at home in WA either.
100% in every chicken shop/fish and chip shop ive ever been to, I'm in Sydney and used to live on south coast nsw... I'd say it's nation wide1 -
shelleyrhoads wrote: »TestingStill4Me wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
We use the F word for cigarettes too. And we have a very popular brand of cheese who's name people find very racist, its C**n. I actually had an American friend ask me about it when she saw it in my diary
OMG - lucky I stopped smoking a lifetime ago - because that certainly was the appreviated name for the smoke -- and as per the cheese -- well - it was just the most popular cheese and it still exists - I never realised or more precise - I never thought about it - that our popular Brand of Cheese - is actually a negative name elsewhere -- mm -- I wonder if they will eventually rename the cheese brand name
I must know what cheese you speak of...
C.. Oo.. N
(derogatory term for Aboriginal Australians - not sure if it's used elsewhere?)0 -
It's an old term used here too. But here they would have changed the name by now.livingleanlivingclean wrote: »shelleyrhoads wrote: »TestingStill4Me wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
We use the F word for cigarettes too. And we have a very popular brand of cheese who's name people find very racist, its C**n. I actually had an American friend ask me about it when she saw it in my diary
OMG - lucky I stopped smoking a lifetime ago - because that certainly was the appreviated name for the smoke -- and as per the cheese -- well - it was just the most popular cheese and it still exists - I never realised or more precise - I never thought about it - that our popular Brand of Cheese - is actually a negative name elsewhere -- mm -- I wonder if they will eventually rename the cheese brand name
I must know what cheese you speak of...
C.. Oo.. N
(derogatory term for Aboriginal Australians - not sure if it's used elsewhere?)0 -
Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.
Really!?! Here, that last "toe" one is an outdated, no longer-used (AFAIK) term for brazil nuts. I remember hearing it in my childhood (half a century ago ). 1 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.
I thought that had been addressed some time ago. The singular was blocked, but the plural was getting through. @Alex can the plural of this word be added to the filth filter?0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
That was a common term for brazil nuts back in the day too. I recall my step-grandmother (back in the '70s) telling me that some of her relatives called it that but that we should not. At the time I didn't even know what the n-word meant so found the whole thing really confusing.2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.
I thought that had been addressed some time ago. The singular was blocked, but the plural was getting through. @Alex can the plural of this word be added to the filth filter?
Sorry, I meant that "coon" wasn't filtered. I didn't try to type the N word.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.
Again a regional thing. I think it is only outdated due to it not being socially acceptable to be racist. I think if you get in a community where they are not so progressive, it would be a very common slur.
My grandfather used to call Brazil nuts n****r toes. Until I was around 5 that's what I thought they were called by everyone. Until my mom heard me say n****r toes were my favorite nut. She about had a stroke. I learned a lesson not to repeat thing my grandfather says.2 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.
Really!?! Here, that last "toe" one is an outdated, no longer-used (AFAIK) term for brazil nuts. I remember hearing it in my childhood (half a century ago ).
Yeah, when my brother-in-law moved to SW Ohio from Eastern Kentucky and heard the term used for the candy he was all confused because his grandparents had used the term for brazil nuts as well. Maybe it was a regional thing.0 -
shelleyrhoads wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.
Again a regional thing. I think it is only outdated due to it not being socially acceptable to be racist. I think if you get in a community where they are not so progressive, it would be a very common slur.
My grandfather used to call Brazil nuts n****r toes. Until I was around 5 that's what I thought they were called by everyone. Until my mom heard me say n****r toes were my favorite nut. She about had a stroke. I learned a lesson not to repeat thing my grandfather says.
Could be.
But I would imagine that even in the deep south where racial slurs are less frowned upon that it would still be used most often to refer to raccoons...
Do people in some areas actually think of it as a slur even when it's not directed towards a person?
Sort of like if the term in Australia was "roo" instead. I would think it would only be recognized as a slur when directed towards a person and not when referring to kangaroos.
ETA: I am in no way defending the use of slurs. Only questioning whether or not this word is perceived as one when not expressly used as such.1 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »shelleyrhoads wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Here, it's primarily short for "raccoon." For instance, no one says "raccoon hunting" or "raccoon dogs." We remove the "rac."
Its use as a racial slur for African Americans is outdated enough and its use as a term for the ring-tailed critter is commonplace enough that I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as a slur unless it was expressly used as such.
For instance, if you told me "there's a coon on the front porch." I would assume that we have a pest control issue and not that you're a racist trying to tell me there's someone at the door.
I imagine that if that particular cheese were available here there would be some backlash over the name just because everything that could potentially be taken as racially offensive will be...but at the same time, if they used a raccoon as their mascot I almost think they could possibly get away with it.
On that note though, we have a candy that comes out around Christmas, sort of a coconut truffle thing (coconut candy coated in chocolate), and I've heard elderly people refer to them as "n***** toes."
ETA: apparently MFP doesn't think of it as a slur either.
Again a regional thing. I think it is only outdated due to it not being socially acceptable to be racist. I think if you get in a community where they are not so progressive, it would be a very common slur.
My grandfather used to call Brazil nuts n****r toes. Until I was around 5 that's what I thought they were called by everyone. Until my mom heard me say n****r toes were my favorite nut. She about had a stroke. I learned a lesson not to repeat thing my grandfather says.
Could be.
But I would imagine that even in the deep south where racial slurs are less frowned upon that it would still be used most often to refer to raccoons...
Do people in some areas actually think of it as a slur even when it's not directed towards a person?
Sort of like if the term in Australia was "roo" instead. I would think it would only be recognized as a slur when directed towards a person and not when referring to kangaroos.
ETA: I am in no way defending the use of slurs. Only questioning whether or not this word is perceived as one when not expressly used as such.
I do not live in the South. But I have never heard anyone not from the South reference a raccoon any way but raccoon. So if you say the shorter word. My first thought would be it was a slur. I will say I live in a very liberal, very butthurt part of our country. So yeah I guess I am easily buthurt. Lol0
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