6000+ Valentines Misery Binge From Hell
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leejoyce31 wrote: »If you eat at a slightly smaller deficit for the next week or two, you will eventually offset whatever overeating you did yesterday; after all, it was one day I woudn't do anything too drastic though, it might inspire another binge if you are feeling constantly hungry. Maybe just try to come in 100-150 calories below your MFP target for 7-10 days to see what happens. BTW, you do realize that you have multiple listings for the same food, yes? For instance, you have 4 slices almond flax bread listed 2x, as well as the soft-serve ice cream. If you really did have a total of 8 slices of that bread, you can leave it alone, If you really only had 4, please do go in & clean up the entries for the day. You might be pleasantly surprised at how much it drops. I think that bread was 430 calories alone.
Even if you did have a 4600 calorie day, and you know why, I suggest setting yourself up with a plan for next time. Next time you are having a blood draw that might make you dizzy, bring a healthy snack & a bottle of water so you can refuel immediately with something that won't damage your efforts. And drink some extras fluids before the draw as well - low blood pressure might have caused the dizziness instead of hunger.
Now for the dessert buffet at work - geeze Louise, it sounds kind of ridiculous, but for any buffet I walk the length of it to scope out what looks good & what doesn't, and only get small servings of what looks FANTASTIC to me. I don't waste calories on meh food if I can help it. If you can employ a similar strategy, you should be able to enjoy the buffet without going completely overboard. Great job tracking a tough day, and hope you get back on track quickly.
I am NEVER hungry because I have anemia, this is why I binge. I literally do not have hunger cues... sometimes I cry cause I want to be a "normal person" who even has the hunger desire to binge, but I don't... I do it cause I'm dizzy. Also ... yes I know there's two breads on purpose. I did everything on purpose there...If you eat at a slightly smaller deficit for the next week or two, you will eventually offset whatever overeating you did yesterday; after all, it was one day I woudn't do anything too drastic though, it might inspire another binge if you are feeling constantly hungry. Maybe just try to come in 100-150 calories below your MFP target for 7-10 days to see what happens. BTW, you do realize that you have multiple listings for the same food, yes? For instance, you have 4 slices almond flax bread listed 2x, as well as the soft-serve ice cream. If you really did have a total of 8 slices of that bread, you can leave it alone, If you really only had 4, please do go in & clean up the entries for the day. You might be pleasantly surprised at how much it drops. I think that bread was 430 calories alone.
Even if you did have a 4600 calorie day, and you know why, I suggest setting yourself up with a plan for next time. Next time you are having a blood draw that might make you dizzy, bring a healthy snack & a bottle of water so you can refuel immediately with something that won't damage your efforts. And drink some extras fluids before the draw as well - low blood pressure might have caused the dizziness instead of hunger.
Now for the dessert buffet at work - geeze Louise, it sounds kind of ridiculous, but for any buffet I walk the length of it to scope out what looks good & what doesn't, and only get small servings of what looks FANTASTIC to me. I don't waste calories on meh food if I can help it. If you can employ a similar strategy, you should be able to enjoy the buffet without going completely overboard. Great job tracking a tough day, and hope you get back on track quickly.
I am NEVER hungry because I have anemia, this is why I binge. I literally do not have hunger cues... sometimes I cry cause I want to be a "normal person" who even has the hunger desire to binge, but I don't... I do it cause I'm dizzy. Also ... yes I know there's two breads on purpose. I did everything on purpose there...
How often do you binge?
I binge every few weeks, at least this month. Usually once a month, but this past month I overate by 1600 one week and then bunged. I go thru anemic phases with blood issues my doc won't help me with. I got 12 blood tests last week. No period. She says I'm fine and I can't keep paying $1500 for these dumb tests -_- I'm just anemic and being dizzy freaks me out and makes me binge0 -
Because calories overeaten are built up over time which leads to weight gain, bud. I understand that concept and am trying to figure out the science of how long it takes to gain after ANOTHER binge in the same 8 day span.
I am mad cause I tried to take everyone's advice and eat lunch but all it did was give me extreme cramps and now I'm hunched over at work in the bathroom crying. Please stop telling me to eat, I'm NOT HUNGRY.
God, I just want to know the science behind how many days it takes to gain weight.
People have poor reading comprehension.
Please everyone stop with the dumb "keep eating" comments. I'm not hungry right now.
My dear fellow MFP user.
Your post cries desperately for answers that are beyond what you actually ate or didn't eat.
The answer you seek is not in how long after eating 1800 or 4000 calories the calories may or may not become fat, and what percentage of them becomes waste, water weight, lean mass, or fat.
The answer you need to address is WHY YOU ARE FEELING THIS CRUMMY RIGHT NOW!
I know you think it has to do with how much you ate; but, I am sorry to say that I don't think so
People eat a lot more, or a bit less from time to time. And they gain weight and lose weight. And the event is usually NOT debilitating enough to have them feeling miserable and crying in a bathroom.
You do need to sort some of this out and a counsellor might be able to help you do so. Do you have an employee and family assistance program at work? That or your family doctor's office might be able to get you started.
As to your weight gain or loss whether you gained 0, 0.25, 0.5, or 1lb yesterday... what do you think the effect of this will be a year later? The correct answer is NONE and that you should continue with your normal MFP program neither restricting more nor modifying anything. This assumes a person who can tell whether their tummy is physically full of undigested food at which point it might not be a great idea to add some more. If you don't have that ability, I don't know how to advise you other than to urge you to contact your doctor.
PS: I too think it is awesome you recorded what you ate. So many people don't and lose some of the most valuable data they can gather.
Re: please see other post above about my literal anemia. I can't keep going to the docs. And I WAS just looking for an answer about weight gain. I know why I feel like crap.0 -
I am saying this in all seriousness - if you can, find another doctor. If she has diagnosed you with anemia, there are treatments. Does she have you on any supplements? I was able to treat mine with OTC iron and B-complex supplements, but a friend's elderly mom had to get a prescription-level iron supplement to treat her anemia. Is there something other than binge-eating that you can do when you re feeling dizzy, even if it's just something small you can do with your hands or breathing until the feeling passes?2
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TavistockToad wrote: »
Because calories overeaten are built up over time which leads to weight gain, bud. I understand that concept and am trying to figure out the science of how long it takes to gain after ANOTHER binge in the same 8 day span.
I am mad cause I tried to take everyone's advice and eat lunch but all it did was give me extreme cramps and now I'm hunched over at work in the bathroom crying. Please stop telling me to eat, I'm NOT HUNGRY.
God, I just want to know the science behind how many days it takes to gain weight.
People have poor reading comprehension.
Please everyone stop with the dumb "keep eating" comments. I'm not hungry right now.
Ok...so what is your net position calorie wise relative to your theoretical maintenance. That would be your best guestimate, but what you're asking is pretty much impossible for people to tell you...there will be some increase due to more inherent waste in your system as well as water weight and bloat (which is likely more the cause of your discomfort).
I didn't really see anyone say to just keep eating...I saw people say to "move on"...as in that it happened, just move on...but I also agree with others that if this is a frequent thing, you might want to look into addressing the underlying reason(s).
People's reading comprehension skills are just fine...you're asking for a very specific and firm answer, and that just doesn't exist.
Good luck...2 -
If you eat at a slightly smaller deficit for the next week or two, you will eventually offset whatever overeating you did yesterday; after all, it was one day I woudn't do anything too drastic though, it might inspire another binge if you are feeling constantly hungry. Maybe just try to come in 100-150 calories below your MFP target for 7-10 days to see what happens. BTW, you do realize that you have multiple listings for the same food, yes? For instance, you have 4 slices almond flax bread listed 2x, as well as the soft-serve ice cream. If you really did have a total of 8 slices of that bread, you can leave it alone, If you really only had 4, please do go in & clean up the entries for the day. You might be pleasantly surprised at how much it drops. I think that bread was 430 calories alone.
Even if you did have a 4600 calorie day, and you know why, I suggest setting yourself up with a plan for next time. Next time you are having a blood draw that might make you dizzy, bring a healthy snack & a bottle of water so you can refuel immediately with something that won't damage your efforts. And drink some extras fluids before the draw as well - low blood pressure might have caused the dizziness instead of hunger.
Now for the dessert buffet at work - geeze Louise, it sounds kind of ridiculous, but for any buffet I walk the length of it to scope out what looks good & what doesn't, and only get small servings of what looks FANTASTIC to me. I don't waste calories on meh food if I can help it. If you can employ a similar strategy, you should be able to enjoy the buffet without going completely overboard. Great job tracking a tough day, and hope you get back on track quickly.
I am NEVER hungry because I have anemia, this is why I binge. I literally do not have hunger cues... sometimes I cry cause I want to be a "normal person" who even has the hunger desire to binge, but I don't... I do it cause I'm dizzy. Also ... yes I know there's two breads on purpose. I did everything on purpose there...
I'm trying to understand. You over ate yesterday to try to cure your dizziness? Can you talk about the thought process behind your choices of food? I'm wondering why you reached for an entire can of frosting as opposed to a sandwich or something ( or heck, even just a few spoonfuls of frosting) if the sole point was to get something in your system to stop the dizziness?3 -
The best advice I can give said with love is forget the calories and work on what caused the binge. xoxo
This is a lifestyle. This is a marathon. This is not a Sprint. Sprints are what I cal Yo-Yo diets; you lose it, you stop, you re-gain it. This is a take everyday by itself. If you gain this week, you know why, focus on being better, use it as motivation and move on. Now if there was a reason for the Binge, or it is a regular then that is its own issue. One slip every so often, not a big deal over the course of a marathon.
As far as the follow-up questions - that might be a question for a professional, because if you are Binging semi-regularly, or even never hungry, then that sounds like a question for someone more knowledgeable than you are going to find on Discussion Board.2 -
Have you ever considered treatment for binge eating disorder?3
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I am NEVER hungry because I have anemia, this is why I binge. I literally do not have hunger cues... sometimes I cry cause I want to be a "normal person" who even has the hunger desire to binge, but I don't... I do it cause I'm dizzy. Also ... yes I know there's two breads on purpose. I did everything on purpose there...Please stop telling me to eat, I'm NOT HUNGRY.God, I just want to know the science behind how many days it takes to gain weight.
People have poor reading comprehension.
Please everyone stop with the dumb "keep eating" comments. I'm not hungry right now.
Gaining fat is more about calories over time, but what you gain from your binge is hard to say. There will be fat gain and water weight gain. Just give it time to settle down eating normally or maybe 100 calories under (but your daily is low, so I wouldn't go more than 100 under). I would work on the why so it doesn't occur so frequently.
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So that was yesterday, right? It's in the past. You have no control over yesterday, but you do have control over what's left of today and tomorrow etc. Work on that.4
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want to know if a slight restriction will cause me to not gain a lb. when I gain that extra roll, I can't focus on my work since I am so physically uncomfortable in my clothes
I just noticed this and am more than a little concerned about your distorted view of weight. A single pound gained is not going to lead to "an extra roll" and should not make you "so physically uncomfortable" in your clothes...8 -
You need to find a new doctor. Anemia is very treatable, there is no reason for you to continue to feel bad and you shouldn't have to have 12 blood tests in a week. I'm not sure why you would think a half a tub of frosting would stop you from feeling dizzy. What you eat isn't going to stop your symptoms from being anemic, only the correct medication is going to do that.1
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When I eat a lot of sugar, I get very bloated. You may find yourself weighing a few pounds more for a few days, and certainly feeling a few pounds bigger, but not actually have gained more than a pound in reality.
Gorging on sugar to counteract dizziness is likely to make you more dizzy in the end, as your blood sugar rises and then crashes. I assume you've been tested for hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia? You would do better to eat something that is not as high glycemic, so your blood sugar doesn't go up and down as quickly.
I'll second the suggestion that you see another doctor who will help you treat your anemia. I understand that they probably want to understand why you are anemic, and thus are doing a lot of tests, but if it is affecting you as badly as you say, it's time to think about actually treating the anemia.1 -
OP how much do you weigh? Unless you are confusing bmr and tdee, a tdee of 1450 suggests your weight is around 95lbs (underweight for your height) if you are sedentary (and less if you are active). If that is the case your posts here raise a number of red flags...2
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Also: That connection between "dizziness" and "needing to binge" is a mental connection that you made at some point, not a physiological need. At some point you experienced a situation where it made you feel physically better, you connected the sensations and now you'er conditioned to think that.
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I'm also anemic and have been for pretty much my whole life. I take OTC iron supplements to keep it under control. If you lack iron to the point that you are feeling dizzy, eat something high in iron. I don't understand your logic of eating all those super sugary foods. No one needs to help you with your anemia, you can take care of that yourself.
It seems, from my perspective, that you are using your anemia as an excuse to binge on stuff that does absolutely nothing to help or counter your anemia. Just the opposite in fact. Messing with your blood sugar to that degree is probably the source of your dizzy spells. Sugar high, sugar crash, sugar high, sugar crash.
Take iron supplements. If you feel dizzy, eat something high in iron. And as others have said, you should look into some counselling or therapy for disordered eating. To make the leap from 'dizzy' to 'eat a tub of frosting' is some pretty major mental gymnastics.10 -
I'm also anemic and have been for pretty much my whole life. I take OTC iron supplements to keep it under control. If you lack iron to the point that you are feeling dizzy, eat something high in iron. I don't understand your logic of eating all those super sugary foods. No one needs to help you with your anemia, you can take care of that yourself.
It seems, from my perspective, that you are using your anemia as an excuse to binge on stuff that does absolutely nothing to help or counter your anemia. Just the opposite in fact. Messing with your blood sugar to that degree is probably the source of your dizzy spells. Sugar high, sugar crash, sugar high, sugar crash.
Take iron supplements. If you feel dizzy, eat something high in iron. And as others have said, you should look into some counselling or therapy for disordered eating. To make the leap from 'dizzy' to 'eat a tub of frosting' is some pretty major mental gymnastics.
All of this...
Also, maybe start your day with Cheerios. I hear they are high in iron.
I'm also perplexed that your biggest concern is not the anemia, the dizziness, or the thoughts that brought you to the point of the binge.... but if and when you might see weight gain and how much and whether there would be a stomach roll.
These are signs you need to see a mental health professional specializing in eating disorders.
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If you eat at a slightly smaller deficit for the next week or two, you will eventually offset whatever overeating you did yesterday; after all, it was one day I woudn't do anything too drastic though, it might inspire another binge if you are feeling constantly hungry. Maybe just try to come in 100-150 calories below your MFP target for 7-10 days to see what happens. BTW, you do realize that you have multiple listings for the same food, yes? For instance, you have 4 slices almond flax bread listed 2x, as well as the soft-serve ice cream. If you really did have a total of 8 slices of that bread, you can leave it alone, If you really only had 4, please do go in & clean up the entries for the day. You might be pleasantly surprised at how much it drops. I think that bread was 430 calories alone.
Even if you did have a 4600 calorie day, and you know why, I suggest setting yourself up with a plan for next time. Next time you are having a blood draw that might make you dizzy, bring a healthy snack & a bottle of water so you can refuel immediately with something that won't damage your efforts. And drink some extras fluids before the draw as well - low blood pressure might have caused the dizziness instead of hunger.
Now for the dessert buffet at work - geeze Louise, it sounds kind of ridiculous, but for any buffet I walk the length of it to scope out what looks good & what doesn't, and only get small servings of what looks FANTASTIC to me. I don't waste calories on meh food if I can help it. If you can employ a similar strategy, you should be able to enjoy the buffet without going completely overboard. Great job tracking a tough day, and hope you get back on track quickly.
I am NEVER hungry because I have anemia, this is why I binge. I literally do not have hunger cues... sometimes I cry cause I want to be a "normal person" who even has the hunger desire to binge, but I don't... I do it cause I'm dizzy. Also ... yes I know there's two breads on purpose. I did everything on purpose there...
I'm trying to understand. You over ate yesterday to try to cure your dizziness? Can you talk about the thought process behind your choices of food? I'm wondering why you reached for an entire can of frosting as opposed to a sandwich or something ( or heck, even just a few spoonfuls of frosting) if the sole point was to get something in your system to stop the dizziness?fitoverfortymom wrote: »Have you ever considered treatment for binge eating disorder?want to know if a slight restriction will cause me to not gain a lb. when I gain that extra roll, I can't focus on my work since I am so physically uncomfortable in my clothes
I just noticed this and am more than a little concerned about your distorted view of weight. A single pound gained is not going to lead to "an extra roll" and should not make you "so physically uncomfortable" in your clothes...Nony_Mouse wrote: »OP how much do you weigh? Unless you are confusing bmr and tdee, a tdee of 1450 suggests your weight is around 95lbs (underweight for your height) if you are sedentary (and less if you are active). If that is the case your posts here raise a number of red flags...I'm also anemic and have been for pretty much my whole life. I take OTC iron supplements to keep it under control. If you lack iron to the point that you are feeling dizzy, eat something high in iron. I don't understand your logic of eating all those super sugary foods. No one needs to help you with your anemia, you can take care of that yourself.
It seems, from my perspective, that you are using your anemia as an excuse to binge on stuff that does absolutely nothing to help or counter your anemia. Just the opposite in fact. Messing with your blood sugar to that degree is probably the source of your dizzy spells. Sugar high, sugar crash, sugar high, sugar crash.
Take iron supplements. If you feel dizzy, eat something high in iron. And as others have said, you should look into some counselling or therapy for disordered eating. To make the leap from 'dizzy' to 'eat a tub of frosting' is some pretty major mental gymnastics.
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I'm 22, female, 5'1, and my tdee is 1450. Had it tested by a doctor... here is my fat roll. I weigh roughly 115 lbs.
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Are you sure the dizziness is because of anemia?
Since you say your doctor is not doing anything for you, what are you doing to deal with your anemia yourself? There are lots of iron supplements out there to choose from, or there is the option of high iron foods. I am sure a quick google would give you are substantial list.0 -
rileysowner wrote: »Are you sure the dizziness is because of anemia?
Since you say your doctor is not doing anything for you, what are you doing to deal with your anemia yourself? There are lots of iron supplements out there to choose from, or there is the option of high iron foods. I am sure a quick google would give you are substantial list.
I have not had red meat since 2nd grade so I might try red meat1 -
You are smack dab in the middle of normal bmi (BMI=22) This suggests that you perhaps have less lean mass on you than the "numbers" would make us believe. When you restrict calories sharply and/or do not eat enough protein in a deficit, excess lean mass is sometimes lost.
TDEE is TOTAL **DAILY** ENERGY EXPENDITURE
You doctor CANNOT DIRECTLY TEST your TDEE unless they put you in a chamber for a WHOLE DAY.
A doctor CAN test your BMR/RMR and make a PREDICTION about your TDEE by multiplying BMR by an activity factor based on your general activity level.
BMR/RMR testing to establish your resting metabolism is a much shorter test.
A BMR or RMR of 1450 is actually higher than your predicted base bmr of about 1219
So.
Either 1450 is your BMR/RMR test result and you have a higher base metabolism than expected.
Or 1450 is your measured RMR multiplied by 1.2 (which is a common activity factor for sedentary) in which case your tested BMR was 1208, about 11 Cal lower than the 1219 predicted by the formulas for 5ft 1", 22yo F, 115lbs, and well within the margin of test error.
BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHETHER YOUR ACTIVITY FACTOR REALLY IS 1.2.
You call yourself sedentary.
But are you?
sedentary at 1.2 means someone who does NOT engage in more than 30 minutes of physical activity a day. once you've walked more than 3000 steps in a day, or engaged in more than 30 minutes of non sitting activity... you've gone beyond an activity factor of 1.2.
Anyway. All this really doesn't address anything.
The part that concerns nearly everyone here is how you view yourself and the degree of self uncomfortableness than you seem to be showing.
No one loses weight without the occasional re-gain. Weight loss is not linear etc etc etc.
Your inability to not fly off the handle when *kitten* happens? A little bit concerning.
Having said that, weight loss involves loss of both fat and lean mass.
At BMI of 22 you may want to discuss with someone in real life what your plans ought to be.
How much exercise and in particular strength training activities do you engage in?
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That's a lot of calories to eat I don't blame you for using the restroom a lot. But none of us can truly say how much weight you will gain. Op almost everyone has far rollls when they sit down :-| nothing to be worried about continue with your cardio and strength training if you're working out. Also you're at a HEALTHY weight.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »
Because calories overeaten are built up over time which leads to weight gain, bud. I understand that concept and am trying to figure out the science of how long it takes to gain after ANOTHER binge in the same 8 day span.
I am mad cause I tried to take everyone's advice and eat lunch but all it did was give me extreme cramps and now I'm hunched over at work in the bathroom crying. Please stop telling me to eat, I'm NOT HUNGRY.
God, I just want to know the science behind how many days it takes to gain weight.
People have poor reading comprehension.
Please everyone stop with the dumb "keep eating" comments. I'm not hungry right now.
That's a lot of calories in on day, and it's making you ill. Your eating behavior, and the mind games you are playing on yourself around food, sounds like an eating disorder. I suggest you contact a new doctor and ask for a referral to a dietitian and/or eating disorder program.
By the way--there is nothing wrong with anyone's reading comprehension, but we're all just a bunch of internet strangers who don't know you. That's why you need to speak with your healthcare team.
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If you are getting cramps from eating a normal sized meal, there may be something else wrong. Perhaps you need to push for a consult with a gastroenterologist to eliminate stomach issues. As I said earlier, are you sure your dizziness is because of anemia or could you have something causing a blood pressure drop or an inner ear issue? Dizziness is not something to be ignored.1
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The OP obviously isn't asking anyone to give advice on what the -real- problem is, and is instead asking for someone to answer an unanswerable question: how much will the binge affect the scale, and what will be the time frame?
Sorry, that is impossible to know.
I hope you realize everyone is just trying to be helpful in ways that we -can- help (i.e., trying to help you figure out why this is happening, and how to avoid it in future). Best of luck.2 -
You are smack dab in the middle of normal bmi (BMI=22) This suggests that you perhaps have less lean mass on you than the "numbers" would make us believe. When you restrict calories sharply and/or do not eat enough protein in a deficit, excess lean mass is sometimes lost.
TDEE is TOTAL **DAILY** ENERGY EXPENDITURE
You doctor CANNOT DIRECTLY TEST your TDEE unless they put you in a chamber for a WHOLE DAY.
A doctor CAN test your BMR/RMR and make a PREDICTION about your TDEE by multiplying BMR by an activity factor based on your general activity level.
BMR/RMR testing to establish your resting metabolism is a much shorter test.
A BMR or RMR of 1450 is actually higher than your predicted base bmr of about 1219
So.
Either 1450 is your BMR/RMR test result and you have a higher base metabolism than expected.
Or 1450 is your measured RMR multiplied by 1.2 (which is a common activity factor for sedentary) in which case your tested BMR was 1208, about 11 Cal lower than the 1219 predicted by the formulas for 5ft 1", 22yo F, 115lbs, and well within the margin of test error.
BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHETHER YOUR ACTIVITY FACTOR REALLY IS 1.2.
You call yourself sedentary.
But are you?
sedentary at 1.2 means someone who does NOT engage in more than 30 minutes of physical activity a day. once you've walked more than 3000 steps in a day, or engaged in more than 30 minutes of non sitting activity... you've gone beyond an activity factor of 1.2.
Anyway. All this really doesn't address anything.
The part that concerns nearly everyone here is how you view yourself and the degree of self uncomfortableness than you seem to be showing.
No one loses weight without the occasional re-gain. Weight loss is not linear etc etc etc.
Your inability to not fly off the handle when *kitten* happens? A little bit concerning.
Having said that, weight loss involves loss of both fat and lean mass.
At BMI of 22 you may want to discuss with someone in real life what your plans ought to be.
How much exercise and in particular strength training activities do you engage in?
I sit at a desk all day and use Microsoft word. I then go back to my car and go to sleep. I truly don't do any physical activity. I work 12 hours a day and live in a literal 200 sq ft apartment. Not making excuses, just answering your question.0 -
joaniebalonie088 wrote: »The OP obviously isn't asking anyone to give advice on what the -real- problem is, and is instead asking for someone to answer an unanswerable question: how much will the binge affect the scale, and what will be the time frame?
Sorry, that is impossible to know.
I hope you realize everyone is just trying to be helpful in ways that we -can- help (i.e., trying to help you figure out why this is happening, and how to avoid it in future). Best of luck.
Well then I guess everyone can stop answering now because after seeing 5 therapists for eating disorders they all say I don't meet the criteria and I don't care to keep analyzing "why" when I told you all I get dizzy and it makes me nervous so I binge. Why keep asking me the same freaking question. If no one can answer the weight question, then I'm done with this thread. Thanks for all the help.0
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