Cutting refined sugar feels like death
TSamberlynn80
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I wonder how long the sugar withdrawals last.. friend me!
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Sugar withdraw?
So if you and I were sitting in a room with a table.
You on one side, I on the other.
And I dumped a 5lb bag of sugar in the center.
You're telling me that you're so addicted to sugar that you'd bury your face in it and start eating it up by the handfulls?
Or, you like sweet snacks that are a mixture of protein, fats and carbs, that are designed to feel good in the mouth and taste so good that you cannot just have 1?
It's a big difference right?
Send a friend request and I'll help you break the cycle.9 -
There's no such thing as sugar withdrawal.
You're just craving foods you enjoy because you're denying yourself the pleasure of having them.14 -
Dan_Rollins_ACE_PN wrote: »
Send a friend request and I'll help you break the cycle.
Nice sales pitch.14 -
I allow myself some. This is long term and a lifestyle. I don't want to live my life eating nothing but whole foods, others may want to do that but I don't. I want to enjoy some foods - in moderation. Maybe just cut back
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Replace the word "sugar" with any other food you love and eat daily, and you would feel anxious too if you had to give it up. You are used to eating certain foods. Not eating them breaks your usual routine and habits. You may have even formed an emotional attachment to some of these foods. Of course giving them up would be hard and may cause you anxiety.
Here is how you could handle this: stop thinking of it like an addiction and think of it like a habit. How do you change a habit? You have two options:
1. Replace the habit with another, but endure an initial period of discomfort. Whenever you crave something you wish to cut out of your diet, think why and where you crave it. For example, if you are used to having chocolate every day when you come back from work, try to associate coming from work with something else, like taking a hot bath. With time, the connection between work and chocolate will be replaced with taking a hot bath. It does take some time to accept your new routine.
2. Tweak the habit so it fits with your current diet. Using the chocolate example above you could either designate 3 days where you can have chocolate after work, and 3 days where you take a bath. Alternatively, you could always have chocolate but reduce the amount to something that is acceptable for your current calorie budget.
3. Substitute with something similar. Diet soda is sweet without the calories. Using a sweetener for your coffee and an alternative lower calorie creamer may save you a few calories. Some substitutions work great, others don't. For example, a sweetener in my chai tea does not change the taste a lot so I use sweetener. Having fruits instead of candy does not work, though. When I want candy it has to be candy, not an apple. This substitution just doesn't give the same kind of satisfaction (for some people it does! but not for me)
Basically just try things and tweak them to find the easiest route for you. Always expect some initial discomfort until you get used to something new, but don't force changes on yourself that would always be hard, not just initially. For example, I know I will always have access to bread, so cutting it out would not work for me. It would make things harder every single day because I'm faced with bread every single day and I love it. Cutting out donuts, on the other hand, was pretty easy because I don't like them much and don't feel tempted by them when I see them. To me they aren't worth the calories, so that's one change I can sustain.6 -
When a significant amount of sugar is cut, a large part of the withdrawal symptoms may be an electrolyte imbalance. Lower sugar (carbs) means lower insulin which means your body will not retain as much water or electrolytes. Many find they need to supplement at least 3000-5000 mg of sodium per day to replace the lost sodium. There's 2300 mg of sodium in a teaspoon of table salt. Broth, salt tablets and salted water helps.
If electrolytes go low you could experience headaches, fatigue, nausea, BM issues and muscle aches. If you let it go too long and muscle cramps start, then you're getting low in potassium and magnesium too.6 -
If you cut sodas out it could be caffeine withdrawal as that does cause headaches and overall malease.4
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Dan_Rollins_ACE_PN wrote: »
Send a friend request and I'll help you break the cycle.
Nice sales pitch.
Lol I offer my advice for free.2 -
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How about eat some refined sugar now and then and not worry about it? This doesn't have to be a form of punishment.4
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Why are some of you being so condescending? If it's a major diet change, yeah, there will be side effects...3
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Dan_Rollins_ACE_PN wrote: »
He started losing me at 1:42 when he admitted that our (Americans) consumption of sugar is actually on the decline. I did watch it all the way to the end though, and his argument against measuring sugar in grams was ridiculous. Don't have a clue who this guy is, but I'm not impressed1 -
crzycatlady1 wrote: »Dan_Rollins_ACE_PN wrote: »
He started losing me at 1:42 when he admitted that our (Americans) consumption of sugar is actually on the decline. I did watch it all the way to the end though, and his argument against measuring sugar in grams was ridiculous. Don't have a clue who this guy is, but I'm not impressed
I actually saw a graph that I thought was legit that shows sugar consumption is decreasing while obesity is increasing in the US. I'm looking for it but maybe someone has it handy or correct me if it's not credible.2 -
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leanjogreen18 wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »Dan_Rollins_ACE_PN wrote: »
He started losing me at 1:42 when he admitted that our (Americans) consumption of sugar is actually on the decline. I did watch it all the way to the end though, and his argument against measuring sugar in grams was ridiculous. Don't have a clue who this guy is, but I'm not impressed
I actually saw a graph that I thought was legit that shows sugar consumption is decreasing while obesity is increasing in the US. I'm looking for it but maybe someone has it handy or correct me if it's not credible.
https://goo.gl/images/KqGTPB2 -
^^^thats the one. Thanks!1
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I've experienced something that felt like sugar withdrawal (headache and malaise). Most recently when it happened I put a teaspoon of sugar in my afternoon tea and it went away immediately. If it happens again I'll try the salted water thing and see if that also solves it. Personally I'm anti misery when it comes to dieting.
I agree with you, the "bury your face" post sounded like it was meant to mock. Hope you don't let that post turn you off the community here. Lots of good info. Good luck in achieving your health and fitness goals.0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
This is long, but informative and awesome.1 -
cowgrl08642 wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
This is long, but informative and awesome.cowgrl08642 wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
This is long, but informative and awesome.
Actually no, Lustig is misinformative and awful.10 -
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crzycatlady1 wrote: »Dan_Rollins_ACE_PN wrote: »
He started losing me at 1:42 when he admitted that our (Americans) consumption of sugar is actually on the decline. I did watch it all the way to the end though, and his argument against measuring sugar in grams was ridiculous. Don't have a clue who this guy is, but I'm not impressed
Well, when I think about how many people know what grams are, it's people that are serious about food weighing, or crack dealers, so I can see his point about a teaspoon being a more recognizable way. Or circus peanuts, as he uses for amusement value (and also sly marketing by having viewers spread his format for him ).0 -
Lustig. Ugh.
I just had to take one of my teaching certification exams and one of the written response questions was on a couple of articles, including Lustig's one about sugar being toxic. I got all riled up. Definitely passed that test.5 -
I cut all processed simple sugars out of my diet almost overnight. At first I used stevia as a stop gap but now I don't use anything. My taste buds adapted. Fruit is super sweet for me now and I can use fruit and sometimes dates or a little honey or maple syrup to flavour and slightly sweeten baked goods on the rare occasions that I bake anything, but nowhere near the volume that recipes traditionally call for. I don't miss it at all.9
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I would recommend anyone interested in this topic read the book Sweet Poison by David Gillespie. It is very informative about how bad sugar is for us and easy to understand. It explains how fructose affects the hormones in your body that control appetite along with many other problems. In the last 50 years since they started putting sugar in everything, humans are the only mammals that have gotten fatter (excluding domesticated animals that are fed by humans). There is a direct correlation with our weight increase over the last 50 years and the introduction of refind sugars to our diet. I quit sugar (fructose) 5 weeks ago after reading the book. I have lost over 3kg in the last 5 weeks with very little effort on my part. I have not measured myself since I started but my clothes are much more comfortable. The best part is that I have not counted one calorie since I started this (counting calories has always been a thorn in my side). I eat more fats and proteins than I ever did before. I don't eat anything "low fat" as it is normally loaded with sugar. Now that the hormones that control my appetite have kicked in I get very clear signals from my body when I have had enough and I can stop eating. When I ate fructose I was unable to stop myself so easily. I am never ravenously hungry anymore. I know this will not be for everyone but for me, it has worked and it has been very easy.6
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I would recommend anyone interested in this topic read the book Sweet Poison by David Gillespie. It is very informative about how bad sugar is for us and easy to understand. It explains how fructose affects the hormones in your body that control appetite along with many other problems. In the last 50 years since they started putting sugar in everything, humans are the only mammals that have gotten fatter (excluding domesticated animals that are fed by humans). There is a direct correlation with our weight increase over the last 50 years and the introduction of refind sugars to our diet. I quit sugar (fructose) 5 weeks ago after reading the book. I have lost over 3kg in the last 5 weeks with very little effort on my part. I have not measured myself since I started but my clothes are much more comfortable. The best part is that I have not counted one calorie since I started this (counting calories has always been a thorn in my side). I eat more fats and proteins than I ever did before. I don't eat anything "low fat" as it is normally loaded with sugar. Now that the hormones that control my appetite have kicked in I get very clear signals from my body when I have had enough and I can stop eating. When I ate fructose I was unable to stop myself so easily. I am never ravenously hungry anymore. I know this will not be for everyone but for me, it has worked and it has been very easy.
I would recommend people look at peer reviewed science instead of fearmongering misinformation.19
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