Fruits = Sugar?
yoandry_delgado7
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Grapes
Blueberries
Mango
Strawberries
Does eating a lot fruits is bad when it comes to sugar ?
Blueberries
Mango
Strawberries
Does eating a lot fruits is bad when it comes to sugar ?
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Unless you have a medical reason to watch your sugar intake, no13
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Unless you have a medical condition that requires you to limit your sugar intake, then no sugar isn't bad (within the context of your calorie intake goals). Many of us don't even track our sugar intake (I've switched to fiber tracking for that column in my food diary).3
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You will get two sides of the fence on this one. Those that are LCHF will say yes and to limit your fruit intake to berries which are low GI. Those that follow nutrition recommendations in regards to fruit intake and sugar intake will say to eat 2 pieces a day and don't worry about the sugar content as the goodness that comes from fruit far outweighs the fructose found in fruit.
By the way WHO's recommendations for sugar intake is 25 grams a day of added sugar. This excludes sugar found naturally in fruit, vegetables and dairy.
I personally eat whatever fruit is in season, regardless of it GI and have never had problems with losing weight by doing this.If I had a medical condition where blood sugar was a concern then I would reconsider more carefully which fruit I ate.4 -
Fruit is nature's candy.
I pay attention to my overall sugar intake regardless of whether or not it comes from a fruit.4 -
As the others said sugar is sugar, in fruits or processed, but the main reason to watch fruits in sugar is if you have a medical condition or are at risk of some health problem.
Fruits have a HUGE variety of sugar amounts in them. Tropical fruit (mangos, bananas), dried fruit and grapes have the most sugar, and the higher GI. Temperate fruits (apples, oranges, plums, necatrines) are more moderate. Berries are low in sugar so even LCHF dieters will often enjoy these. The lowest sugar fruits are those that people call vegetables like cucumbers, peppers, squashes and legumes.5 -
Comparing fruit to candy is crazy. A candy bar is not jammed pack full of vitamins and minerals like a piece of fruit is. It does not contain fibre which will slow down the absorption of sugar into our bloodstream to prevent sudden sugar spikes. A candy bar also comprises of a different kind of sugar structure which the body breaks down differently to begin with.8
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Thank you all0
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I eat fruit every day. Usually 1-3 servings a day with each serving being a different fruit than the one before. The sugar load is something I take into account, as I need to be careful of how much sweet or starch I consume for medical reasons.0
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »Comparing fruit to candy is crazy. A candy bar is not jammed pack full of vitamins and minerals like a piece of fruit is. It does not contain fibre which will slow down the absorption of sugar into our bloodstream to prevent sudden sugar spikes. A candy bar also comprises of a different kind of sugar structure which the body breaks down differently to begin with.
"Fruit is nature's candy" is a pretty common saying. I think it just means that fruit is the closest naturally occurring substance we have to candy. Except perhaps honey.
Candy can impact the body faster than fruit (except for the sweetest or dried fruits). The fibre in fruit will slow down the BG spike... then again, so will the fat in some candies. It really varies from food to food.
This is a list of GI and glycemic load of many foods. The GL is a more accurate indicator of waht a food does to your BG, I think.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glycemic_index_and_glycemic_load_for_100_foods3 -
I eat at least three servings of fruit a day. Typically, berries with breakfast (frozen berry mixes are very convenient and a cup has 70 calories), a piece of fruit with lunch (apple, orange, pear, strawberries), and another as an afternoon snack.
Fruits are not all the same, although all their calories comes from sugar. The thing to consider is the amount of fiber: higher fiber fruits are more satisfying for most people. A large orange, apple, or pear has ~90kcal with ~4.5 grams of (soluble) fiber. I think they are good in your diet. Ultra-low-carb folks may not agree.
Grapes have a lot less fiber and I avoid eating a lot of them.
A great afternoon snack is a piece of fruit with a piece of cheese. There are a wide variety of cheese sticks these days. (I like Sargento Cheddar Cheese Sticks).1 -
"Fruit is nature's candy" is a common saying but to then use that as the reason why you will not eat fruit makes little logical sense because it shows that you do not really understand so much about nutrition.3
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Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »I eat at least three servings of fruit a day. Typically, berries with breakfast (frozen berry mixes are very convenient and a cup has 70 calories), a piece of fruit with lunch (apple, orange, pear, strawberries), and another as an afternoon snack.
Fruits are not all the same, although all their calories comes from sugar. The thing to consider is the amount of fiber: higher fiber fruits are more satisfying for most people. A large orange, apple, or pear has ~90kcal with ~4.5 grams of (soluble) fiber. I think they are good in your diet. Ultra-low-carb folks may not agree.
Grapes have a lot less fiber and I avoid eating a lot of them.
A great afternoon snack is a piece of fruit with a piece of cheese. There are a wide variety of cheese sticks these days. (I like Sargento Cheddar Cheese Sticks).
Most of us like fruit and think they are fine if it fits your macros and health needs... In general, most of us eat LCHF for health reasons or because it is all that has worked for us so far. Out of a necessity, as it were.0 -
How so?Lillymoo01 wrote: »...A candy bar also comprises of a different kind of sugar structure which the body breaks down differently to begin with.
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »"Fruit is nature's candy" is a common saying but to then use that as the reason why you will not eat fruit makes little logical sense because it shows that you do not really understand so much about nutrition.
Really? No.
I just don't agree with you.2 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »"Fruit is nature's candy" is a common saying but to then use that as the reason why you will not eat fruit makes little logical sense because it shows that you do not really understand so much about nutrition.
Then please enlighten us on how the body processes sugar in a candy bar different than sugar in fruit. I must have missed that class/study/whatever....6 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »"Fruit is nature's candy" is a common saying but to then use that as the reason why you will not eat fruit makes little logical sense because it shows that you do not really understand so much about nutrition.
Then please enlighten us on how the body processes sugar in a candy bar different than sugar in fruit. I must have missed that class/study/whatever....
Did you miss the bit where fruit has a wide variety of vitamins and minerals which a candy bar doesn't? Did you miss the bit where the high fibre content of most fruit slows down the absorption of sugar into the blood stream?
Here is also an article which describes the differences in the bodies reaction to fructose from fruit in comparison to other sugars.
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-fructose
I'm glad you asked.2 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »"Fruit is nature's candy" is a common saying but to then use that as the reason why you will not eat fruit makes little logical sense because it shows that you do not really understand so much about nutrition.
Really? No.
I just don't agree with you.
That is ok. You rarely agree with me but have never shown any evidence to back up your beliefs.0 -
I just ate a pint of raspberries. I don't limit sugar but I rarely go over 60g just because to hit my other macros and be satisfied I have to eat relatively clean.1
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I eat tons of fruit and it doesn't affect my goals. Raspberries are high in fiber and lower in sugar compared to other fruits.1
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Lots of opinions being thrown around. The fact is you're body cannot distinguish a sugar (such as fructose) that came from an apple vs. from Aunt Jemima. The benefit of the Apple is the fiber, the Vitamin C, A, and antioxidants.
If it's within your macros for carbohydrates it's a good choice, especially if your active.7 -
Phill science would disagree with you there in regards to your body not being able to distinguish between the different sugars because the molecular structure of fructose is different than that of glucose which is different again to sucrose which happens to be a combination of both fructose and glucose. Lactose has a different molecular structure also so the body will respond to that one different also.1
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@Lillymoo01
Let me clarify, fructose is the same no matter what fruit or product it's in. But yes, there are multiple sugar compounds, and you know some of them!9 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »"Fruit is nature's candy" is a common saying but to then use that as the reason why you will not eat fruit makes little logical sense because it shows that you do not really understand so much about nutrition.
Then please enlighten us on how the body processes sugar in a candy bar different than sugar in fruit. I must have missed that class/study/whatever....
Did you miss the bit where fruit has a wide variety of vitamins and minerals which a candy bar doesn't? Did you miss the bit where the high fibre content of most fruit slows down the absorption of sugar into the blood stream?
Here is also an article which describes the differences in the bodies reaction to fructose from fruit in comparison to other sugars.
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-fructose
I'm glad you asked.
So if you eat some candy along with something that contains fiber or even fat, you should see a similar reaction.. slower absorption rate. And yes, you do get more nutrients from fruit, but in the context of a diet, it probably doesn't matter.
OP, like others have stated, it doesn't really matter if you don't have a need to watch sugar (medical condition) or it doesn't take away from other important nutrients. I generally have 3-6 servings of fruit a day... it's very filling and helps keep me on track.3 -
The rare occasions when I eat just sugar or have sugary drinks is precisely because I want to get it into my bloodstream quickly. So that's a benefit to me and not a problem.
Eat your fruit OP, it's good for you as part of an overall balanced diet.
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »Comparing fruit to candy is crazy. A candy bar is not jammed pack full of vitamins and minerals like a piece of fruit is. It does not contain fibre which will slow down the absorption of sugar into our bloodstream to prevent sudden sugar spikes. A candy bar also comprises of a different kind of sugar structure which the body breaks down differently to begin with.
Pfft, my candy bar has more diverse vitamins and minerals than your fruit:
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YES! Sugar is a killer! That's why those of us on a ketogenic diet only eat raspberries, blueberries, blackberries and strawberries, and only up to 1/2 cup once in a great while as a "treat". They are the lowest in carbohydrates, and they have a decent amount of fiber (some of the carbs are insoluble fiber, which your body can't digest, so some of us subtract the fiber grams from the carb grams for net grams). We also don't eat any grains or root vegetables for the same reason. They turn to glucose in the bloodstream, causing the insulin response, and insulin is the fat-storing hormone. There is ALWAYS a medical reason for EVERYBODY to NOT eat sugar. Sugar causes high blood pressure, heart disease, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, Type II diabetes, metabolic syndrome, fatty liver, leads to some cancers and neurological disorders, like Parkinsons and Alzheimers, some epilepsy cases and may contribute to autism. There's a reason fruit is called "nature's candy". And it matters not what type of sugar it is, whether it's sucrose, glucose, fructose, or any type of -ose. It's all the same once it's in the bloodstream, and all cause the same problems. This information has been known for DECADES, but deep pockets keep the people ill-informed, and the high carb/low fat diet simply won't go away, even though that's what's caused the obesity and diabetes epidemic worldwide. Don't believe me? Google "Sugar Industry Pays off Harvard Scientists".1
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HeidiGrrrl wrote: »YES! Sugar is a killer! That's why those of us on a ketogenic diet only eat raspberries, blueberries, blackberries and strawberries, and only up to 1/2 cup once in awhile. They are the lowest in carbohydrates, and they have a decent amount of fiber (some of the carbs are insoluble fiber, which your body can't digest, so some of us subtract the fiber grams from the carb grams for net grams). We also don't eat any grains or root vegetables for the same reason. They turn to glucose in the bloodstream, causing the insulin response, and insulin is the fat-storing hormone. There is ALWAYS a medical reason for EVERYBODY to NOT eat sugar. Sugar causes high blood pressure, heart disease, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, Type II diabetes, metabolic syndrome, fatty liver, leads to some cancers and neurological disorders, like Parkinsons and Alzheimers, some epilepsy cases and may contribute to autism. There's a reason fruit is called "nature's candy".
As a keto advocate, allow me to say: get out. You have no idea what you are talking about, and you make us all look dumb to the general public.28 -
HeidiGrrrl wrote: »YES! Sugar is a killer! That's why those of us on a ketogenic diet only eat raspberries, blueberries, blackberries and strawberries, and only up to 1/2 cup once in a great while as a "treat". They are the lowest in carbohydrates, and they have a decent amount of fiber (some of the carbs are insoluble fiber, which your body can't digest, so some of us subtract the fiber grams from the carb grams for net grams). We also don't eat any grains or root vegetables for the same reason. They turn to glucose in the bloodstream, causing the insulin response, and insulin is the fat-storing hormone. There is ALWAYS a medical reason for EVERYBODY to NOT eat sugar. Sugar causes high blood pressure, heart disease, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, Type II diabetes, metabolic syndrome, fatty liver, leads to some cancers and neurological disorders, like Parkinsons and Alzheimers, some epilepsy cases and may contribute to autism. There's a reason fruit is called "nature's candy". And it matters not what type of sugar it is, whether it's sucrose, glucose, fructose, or any type of -ose. It's all the same once it's in the bloodstream, and all cause the same problems. This information has been known for DECADES, but deep pockets keep the people ill-informed, and the high carb/low fat diet simply won't go away, even though that's what's caused the obesity and diabetes epidemic worldwide. Don't believe me? Google "Sugar Industry Pays off Harvard Scientists".
Yeah, no.
I normalized a high/prediabetic glucose number while still eating sugar, and I'm the only one in my family who's reversed the progression of prediabetes. I also improved all my other health markers as well-things like a total cholesterol number of 143, heart disease risk ratio of 2.6 (anything under 5.0 is considered optimal), blood pressure 102/74, waist circumference measured at a 25 (measured by a nurse), a bmi of around 20 and yes-glucose numbers in the 80s and 90s. I no longer have any medical/health problems and I take no prescriptions. And I eat sugar every single day. I've also been successfully maintaining my 50lb weight loss and excellent health for almost 4 years now.5 -
HeidiGrrrl wrote: »YES! Sugar is a killer! That's why those of us on a ketogenic diet only eat raspberries, blueberries, blackberries and strawberries, and only up to 1/2 cup once in a great while as a "treat". They are the lowest in carbohydrates, and they have a decent amount of fiber (some of the carbs are insoluble fiber, which your body can't digest, so some of us subtract the fiber grams from the carb grams for net grams). We also don't eat any grains or root vegetables for the same reason. They turn to glucose in the bloodstream, causing the insulin response, and insulin is the fat-storing hormone. There is ALWAYS a medical reason for EVERYBODY to NOT eat sugar. Sugar causes high blood pressure, heart disease, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, Type II diabetes, metabolic syndrome, fatty liver, leads to some cancers and neurological disorders, like Parkinsons and Alzheimers, some epilepsy cases and may contribute to autism. There's a reason fruit is called "nature's candy". And it matters not what type of sugar it is, whether it's sucrose, glucose, fructose, or any type of -ose. It's all the same once it's in the bloodstream, and all cause the same problems. This information has been known for DECADES, but deep pockets keep the people ill-informed, and the high carb/low fat diet simply won't go away, even though that's what's caused the obesity and diabetes epidemic worldwide. Don't believe me? Google "Sugar Industry Pays off Harvard Scientists".
This is horribly inaccurate. All of it.9 -
HeidiGrrrl wrote: »YES! Sugar is a killer! That's why those of us on a ketogenic diet only eat raspberries, blueberries, blackberries and strawberries, and only up to 1/2 cup once in a great while as a "treat". They are the lowest in carbohydrates, and they have a decent amount of fiber (some of the carbs are insoluble fiber, which your body can't digest, so some of us subtract the fiber grams from the carb grams for net grams). We also don't eat any grains or root vegetables for the same reason. They turn to glucose in the bloodstream, causing the insulin response, and insulin is the fat-storing hormone. There is ALWAYS a medical reason for EVERYBODY to NOT eat sugar. Sugar causes high blood pressure, heart disease, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, Type II diabetes, metabolic syndrome, fatty liver, leads to some cancers and neurological disorders, like Parkinsons and Alzheimers, some epilepsy cases and may contribute to autism. There's a reason fruit is called "nature's candy". And it matters not what type of sugar it is, whether it's sucrose, glucose, fructose, or any type of -ose. It's all the same once it's in the bloodstream, and all cause the same problems. This information has been known for DECADES, but deep pockets keep the people ill-informed, and the high carb/low fat diet simply won't go away, even though that's what's caused the obesity and diabetes epidemic worldwide. Don't believe me? Google "Sugar Industry Pays off Harvard Scientists".
Did you actually read the study or just a newspapers interpretation of it? It didn't even prove what people are thinking it proved. The bold is my favorite.
"The Roger Adams papers and other documents used in this research provide a narrow window into the activities of 1 sugar industry trade association; therefore, it is difficult to validate that the documents gathered are representative of the entirety of SRF internal materials related to Project 226 from the 1950s and 1960s or that the proper weight was given to each data source. There is no direct evidence that the sugar industry wrote or changed the NEJM review manuscript; the evidence that the industry shaped the review’s conclusions is circumstantial. We did not analyze the role of other organizations, nutrition leaders, or food industries that advocated that saturated fat and dietary cholesterol were the main dietary cause of CHD. We could not interview key actors involved in this historical episode because they have died."
I would also recommend that you look into glucenogenesis (the bodies ability to convert nutrients into sugar) and also research Acylation Stimulating Protein (ASP). Anytime you body is fed, it will inhibit lipolysis (breakdown of body fat) and store nutrients, period. You can do it whether or not you are eating carbs are not. And it should be noted that longest living and healthiest people in the world eat around 70% carbs.
The bold is a wild and unsubstantiated claim and at best are some peoples theories. Most of the bold is multifactorial.
And why is insulin the bad guy? Its a response to suppress blood glucose to normal levels and a key to the cells to shuttle nutrients in them... sounds like a good think. It also inhibits protein breakdown and enables muscle protein synthesis to work at a maximum rate (when combined with adequate protein). The ability to gain or maintain muscle is highly underrating by many groups. Consider that muscle drives EE, is linked to a health immune system and metabolism, it would be argued that maintaining or gaining muscle is critical during weight loss... something a ketogenic diet makes it difficult, especially if you believe in the broscience that protein kick you out of ketosis at very low levels.13
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