DNA Testing for Weight Loss
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Ain't new. It's actually been thought about for over 20 years. And I'm NEVER against new methodology AS LONG AS it's actually legit. This isn't legit. Why can one twin get fat and the other stay lean if they share the same exact genetics?kristielove wrote: »@ninerbuff so as a trainer you would speak against new scientific tools to help one possibly maximize their weight loss?
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Livescience has an article about it.
The study, not peer reviewed, shows out of 101 only 5 obese women lost weight on the DNA recommended diet. There is no information if they kept it off.
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Lol, let me guess................the DNA diet suggested they eat less than they burn?leanjogreen18 wrote: »Livescience has an article about it.
The study, not peer reviewed, shows out of 101 only 5 obese women lost weight on the DNA recommended diet. There is no information if they kept it off.
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http://www.livescience.com/15137-genetic-test-lose-weight.html
Seems they are told how much to reduce carbs or fat.
Personally I'd save my 500 and give this testing several more years and some peer reviewed studies, especially since just eating in a deficit is working nicely.1 -
The "DNA Diet" is something a nutritionist came up with - if I recall correctly from my days working in the DNA testing lab, it was exactly that: How tall and how old are you ? M/F? Here, eat this meal plan. Here is your DNA test results. . . and then a meal plan. Generic. There were four or five plans she rotated - nowhere was it promised that "Your DNA type has anything whatsoever to do with this meal plan." Generic meal plan. Generic DNA alleles. The client paid for a DNA test that anyone can get for $99 and paid for a meal plan that you can get online.
That will be $500 please.
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@Tacklewasher actually it is what I wrote. What you or "Joe Schmoe" THINKS isn't insightful, it's strongly subjective. And bc "that's the way things go" doesn't mean that's the way it has to be... Something to ponder on, there was a a lot developed by NASA for astronauts (small percentage compared to us commoners) that we all use daily now. There is much one can learn and lots more to be learned by analyzing DNA0
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kristielove wrote: »@Tacklewasher actually it is what I wrote. What you or "Joe Schmoe" THINKS isn't insightful, it's strongly subjective. And bc "that's the way things go" doesn't mean that's the way it has to be... Something to ponder on, there was a a lot developed by NASA for astronauts (small percentage compared to us commoners) that we all use daily now. There is much one can learn and lots more to be learned by analyzing DNA
does not matter...weight loss still comes down to CICO, regardless of DNA..
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Sounds like you're already convinced and your mind is made up despite what anybody else says. At least maybe the conversation will be worthwhile to others who read it in the future, maybe it will save them some unnecessary expense for something that will have no effect upon their weight loss.6
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deannalfisher wrote: »I didn't think any of the gene mapping done to date was at the level of specificity to identify food intolerances - but I'd have to do some research
I'm thinking that it probably just indicates generalities. For example, something like 75% of Native Americans are lactose intolerant. I'm guessing if the DNA indicated that the person had Native American ancestors, it would say that she may be lactose intolerant.
I have a percentage of native american blood,from 3 different tribes(not sure of percentages as I havent done DNA but my sister did trace our lineage), and Im not lactose intolerant.so that would throw the study off one would think.0 -
kristielove wrote: »@NorthCascades what's your point?
How on earth is it not clear what my point is? I thought I wrote it in a way that was easy to understand, could you tell me where you got lost?
My point is that what people competing in the Olympics do to win a gold metal is different from what we should do to lose some weight.
It's a very simple point, but it's correct and you should click the "insightful" button to acknowledge it.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »I didn't think any of the gene mapping done to date was at the level of specificity to identify food intolerances - but I'd have to do some research
I'm thinking that it probably just indicates generalities. For example, something like 75% of Native Americans are lactose intolerant. I'm guessing if the DNA indicated that the person had Native American ancestors, it would say that she may be lactose intolerant.
I have a percentage of native american blood,from 3 different tribes(not sure of percentages as I havent done DNA but my sister did trace our lineage), and Im not lactose intolerant.so that would throw the study off one would think.
I'm partially of Native American heritage also, and not lactose intolerant in the least. I consume dairy products on a daily basis with no problems.2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »I didn't think any of the gene mapping done to date was at the level of specificity to identify food intolerances - but I'd have to do some research
I'm thinking that it probably just indicates generalities. For example, something like 75% of Native Americans are lactose intolerant. I'm guessing if the DNA indicated that the person had Native American ancestors, it would say that she may be lactose intolerant.
I have a percentage of native american blood,from 3 different tribes(not sure of percentages as I havent done DNA but my sister did trace our lineage), and Im not lactose intolerant.so that would throw the study off one would think.
I'm partially of Native American heritage also, and not lactose intolerant in the least. I consume dairy products on a daily basis with no problems.
Interesting. My mother-in-law was full blooded, and my hubby is slightly lactose intolerant. I wonder if it gets diluted enough after a certain percentage that it doesn't matter?0 -
kristielove wrote: »@Tacklewasher actually it is what I wrote. What you or "Joe Schmoe" THINKS isn't insightful, it's strongly subjective. And bc "that's the way things go" doesn't mean that's the way it has to be... Something to ponder on, there was a a lot developed by NASA for astronauts (small percentage compared to us commoners) that we all use daily now. There is much one can learn and lots more to be learned by analyzing DNA
does not matter...weight loss still comes down to CICO, regardless of DNA..
not sure why that is so hard to understand...
Good point even if the testing is helpful, which apparently their own study only shows 5% success, it seems all it recommends is either lowering carbs or fat by a certain amount. Might be helpful knowing that but useless if it's not sustainable in my opinion.
My luck it would say very low carbs and I wasted 500 bucks because I'm eating plenty of carbs now and losing nicely. I won't restrict again.
But if you've got the money AND you can live with the results why not, I guess. Personally id still wait until more studies are done.
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kristielove wrote: »@Tacklewasher actually it is what I wrote. What you or "Joe Schmoe" THINKS isn't insightful, it's strongly subjective. And bc "that's the way things go" doesn't mean that's the way it has to be... Something to ponder on, there was a a lot developed by NASA for astronauts (small percentage compared to us commoners) that we all use daily now. There is much one can learn and lots more to be learned by analyzing DNA
True - much advancement has been developed by the space program that helps our daily lives. This is a rather poor anecdote to DNA analysis and weight management.
A better one would be Netflix DNA - We'll analyse you DNA and tailor your movie selection based upon these results. What are you reviewing that suggests correlation between the sequence of amino acids and romcoms?
What I and other posters are trying to relay is that there is nothing hidden within your DNA code that would begin to suggest what sort of diet you should be on barring specific genetic disorders (which would not show up on this type of testing).
Having spent the last 17 years of my life studying and manipulating DNA I cannot even fathom the size of the shovel used to sling the BS this company is slinging.17 -
Bet you get weird when drinking alcohol though..............CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »I didn't think any of the gene mapping done to date was at the level of specificity to identify food intolerances - but I'd have to do some research
I'm thinking that it probably just indicates generalities. For example, something like 75% of Native Americans are lactose intolerant. I'm guessing if the DNA indicated that the person had Native American ancestors, it would say that she may be lactose intolerant.
I have a percentage of native american blood,from 3 different tribes(not sure of percentages as I havent done DNA but my sister did trace our lineage), and Im not lactose intolerant.so that would throw the study off one would think.
I'm partially of Native American heritage also, and not lactose intolerant in the least. I consume dairy products on a daily basis with no problems.
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kristielove wrote: »@Tacklewasher actually it is what I wrote. What you or "Joe Schmoe" THINKS isn't insightful, it's strongly subjective. And bc "that's the way things go" doesn't mean that's the way it has to be... Something to ponder on, there was a a lot developed by NASA for astronauts (small percentage compared to us commoners) that we all use daily now. There is much one can learn and lots more to be learned by analyzing DNA
If you want to spend your money on genetic testing and see if you have any genetic defects or markers for any genetic issues(that can cause your weight loss to be harder than normal) that is one thing, but to have a DNA test for weight loss? no,save your money. I have a few genetic defects and one of them causes me to have a metabolic disorder, I still lose weight with CICO,although its slower I still lose. I have to also be more active than most people(resulting in a higher deficit).but that is me.3 -
For me the total facepalm in this thread is that the OP is being told outright by someone who does this stuff for a living that it's a total scamwoo and is still arguing with them.15
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For all, I never said my mind was made up. If that were the case I would have just ordered. I asked to get REAL feedback from REAL tester. I too am skeptical. I was actually considering getting a genetic study for heritage and health and happened to come across it.0
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I have a friend who is now in the process of possible divorce because he chose to spend $2800 on some carbon fiber wheels for his bike, rather than use it to go on vacation with his wife and kids.NorthCascades wrote: »kristielove wrote: »From what I read, a lot of athletes and those who participate in the Olympics use it religiously.
That may be true, and that may not. (If you'd like to share what you've read, the rest of us can find out...)
Athletes competing in the Olympics are competing against other athletes. You and I are not. We're chatting in a weight loss thread.
People competing in triathlon spend $3,000 on bike wheels to reduce aerodynamic drag by very small amounts. Most people in this thread probably shouldn't do that, either. And for the same reasons, the people here are trying to lose some fat off their waste, not to lose 7 seconds on a 40 kilometer time trial.
You're right OP, to each his own.
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