Can you still drink DIET pepsi or coke while on a diet?
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So OP never came back? Boo.
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Google "artificial sweeteners and obesity." You will find all sorts of well-conducted and documented studies tying AS to obesity and diabetes. Not exactly the outcome you are after.1
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Google "artificial sweeteners and obesity." You will find all sorts of well-conducted and documented studies tying AS to obesity and diabetes. Not exactly the outcome you are after.
So why does the American Diabetes Association recommend artificial sweeteners?
Artificial sweeteners being related to obesity is correlation, not causation. If you want to make waves in the media, you see obese people drinking diet soda and yell - artificial sweeteners make you fat! If you are using logic, you see that obese people became obese by eating too much and are drinking diet soda now to save calories.
There are many many people here who drank diet soda while losing and now while maintaining. As far as I'm aware, there is a theory that artificial sweeteners can increase appetite in some people, though I haven't experienced that. And now there is some theory that they may affect the gut biome, but that research is preliminary, and again must only affect certain people if it's true, cause I see just as many skinny people drinking diet soda as obese people :drinker:6 -
Google "artificial sweeteners and obesity." You will find all sorts of well-conducted and documented studies tying AS to obesity and diabetes. Not exactly the outcome you are after.
1) It helps greatly if you understand the difference between correlation and causation. There are plenty of obese people and diabetics who exercise also. Should we then proclaim exercise as the cause of obesity and diabetes?
2) Here's a meta-analysis of 15 RCTs (those are random controlled trials - "studies", in case you didn't know that) and 9 prospective cohort studies, which showed no association between the use of artificial sweeteners and weight gain - and in fact concluded that they could be a useful dietary tool in weight loss plans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24944060/
3) Google is a poor tool if you don't know how to properly vet your sources. There's a lot of crackpots and garbage on the web/internet. I can Google and find sources which "prove" that the Earth is flat and the moon landing never happened.
4) As an n=1, I drink diet soda pretty much daily. I've lost 65 pounds while doing so, am at a healthy weight/BMI/bodyfat percentage, and do not have diabetes. That *is* the outcome I was after. And I'm far from the only person on MFP who has had enormous success losing weight while drinking diet sodas.10 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »So OP never came back? Boo.
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That stinks. I mean you could have jut ignored the post that called you out in the first place, but you swung back, so commit. Say you are actually the model. Pull out a stat about doppelgangers. Suggest your account was hacked. Something
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Google "artificial sweeteners and obesity." You will find all sorts of well-conducted and documented studies tying AS to obesity and diabetes. Not exactly the outcome you are after.
If you Google you will find many studies regarding artificial sweeteners and obesity. When you read the actual studies, you will not that not one of them actually finds a definitive link.5 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »Google "artificial sweeteners and obesity." You will find all sorts of well-conducted and documented studies tying AS to obesity and diabetes. Not exactly the outcome you are after.
If you Google you will find many studies regarding artificial sweeteners and obesity. When you read the actual studies, you will not that not one of them actually finds a definitive link.
If you Google, you'll come up with links to Authority Nutrition (junk science site), Mercola (crackpot pseudoscientist), Dr. Axe (another tinfoil hat hack), etc. - all of which will give you a headache from rolling your eyes so much, but none of which have anything to do with the actual science regarding artificial sweeteners.
Examine.com, which is an unbiased, evidence-based site, does a good job of laying out the science here and also explaining correlation vs. causation. They also link to relevant studies (as they always do): https://examine.com/nutrition/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/7 -
I don't drink them at all. And i don't miss them. Everybody here is for the long haul i guess and talks about lifestyle change to achieve weightloss and then maintain it. But apparently ppl are still eating/drinking bad as long as its in calorie goal. While it won't affect weightloss it is proven that soda and some artificial sweeteners are not good for your health. Plus it does cause cravings for some people. Junk food and soda are, in my opinion, first things to ditch if you are truly commited to a change.1
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Harbin2017 wrote: »I don't drink them at all. And i don't miss them. Everybody here is for the long haul i guess and talks about lifestyle change to achieve weightloss and then maintain it. But apparently ppl are still eating/drinking bad as long as its in calorie goal. While it won't affect weightloss it is proven that soda and some artificial sweeteners are not good for your health. Plus it does cause cravings for some people. Junk food and soda are, in my opinion, first things to ditch if you are truly commited to a change.
But... it's not.8 -
Harbin2017 wrote: »I don't drink them at all. And i don't miss them. Everybody here is for the long haul i guess and talks about lifestyle change to achieve weightloss and then maintain it. But apparently ppl are still eating/drinking bad as long as its in calorie goal. While it won't affect weightloss it is proven that soda and some artificial sweeteners are not good for your health. Plus it does cause cravings for some people. Junk food and soda are, in my opinion, first things to ditch if you are truly commited to a change.
Once again. Science: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/6 -
Harbin2017 wrote: »I don't drink them at all. And i don't miss them. Everybody here is for the long haul i guess and talks about lifestyle change to achieve weightloss and then maintain it. But apparently ppl are still eating/drinking bad as long as its in calorie goal. While it won't affect weightloss it is proven that soda and some artificial sweeteners are not good for your health. Plus it does cause cravings for some people. Junk food and soda are, in my opinion, first things to ditch if you are truly commited to a change.
Sorry, but you have been misinformed.5 -
I prefer not to have coke or Pepsi due to the caffeine and pains after tho they do make sugar free drinks including cordial and the kirks have a few ☺0
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Google "artificial sweeteners and obesity." You will find all sorts of well-conducted and documented studies tying AS to obesity and diabetes. Not exactly the outcome you are after.
Except I normalized my high glucose numbers and lost 50lbs while using artificial sweeteners (didn't start using them until I started my weight loss phase). Now I'm a several years into maintenance and continue to have great blood work panels and a bmi hovering around 20, while still using artificial sweeteners every day.
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I noticed that Diet Coke/Pepsi made me crave sweets1
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Harbin2017 wrote: »I don't drink them at all. And i don't miss them. Everybody here is for the long haul i guess and talks about lifestyle change to achieve weightloss and then maintain it. But apparently ppl are still eating/drinking bad as long as its in calorie goal. While it won't affect weightloss it is proven that soda and some artificial sweeteners are not good for your health. Plus it does cause cravings for some people. Junk food and soda are, in my opinion, first things to ditch if you are truly commited to a change.
I'm in maintenance and have consistent, excellent blood work panels (I get them done twice a year), and I drink diet soda every day/use artificial sweetener. I'm at the best health I've ever been, and my doctor is very pleased with all my health markers.
And no, diet soda doesn't cause cravings for me, and in fact it helps curb them.4 -
RemoteOutpost wrote: »Yes, but I would avoid the ones with aspartame as they have been shown to raise blood sugar and end up leaving your hungrier than you would have been otherwise. If anyone wants a source, Google is your friend. I care enough to add my 2 cents to this conversation but rarely do I care enough about a discussion on the internet to put in actual work.
Tell that to the diabetics that get to use it because it's 0 on the glycemic index. They would probably die or something crazy would happen to them if this were true.
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I drink Coke Zero, so sure, why not?0
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LOL. Just LOL.
I'm in the sweetener camp. Diet drinks all the way. Prefer Pepsi Max to Coke Zero, though. Mind you that new formula taste is a good improvement with the zero.1 -
I wonder how sweetener would raise your blood glucose. Where would that glucose come from even?4
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cherry diet pepsi! SO GOOD!1
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misshavenross wrote: »I love to drink coke or pepsi, is it okay to drink it still while dieting? It has 0 calories so it won't add anything to my calorie deficit.
Any soda is bad. The chemicals they put in to make it zero calorie is just as dangerous as drinking a regular soda.1 -
rberhannanii wrote: »misshavenross wrote: »I love to drink coke or pepsi, is it okay to drink it still while dieting? It has 0 calories so it won't add anything to my calorie deficit.
Any soda is bad. The chemicals they put in to make it zero calorie is just as dangerous as drinking a regular soda.
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No. The body metabolizes sugar fine. There is NO SUGAR in diet drinks. Fat accumulates when you consume more energy than you burn regardless of source.misshavenross wrote: »Is it true that the body cannot metabolize sugar so the sugars from the coke will turn into fat?
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170The two treatments were not equivalent with the NNS beverage treatment group losing significantly more weight compared to the water group (5.95 kg versus 4.09 kg; P < 0.0001) after 12 weeks. Participants in the NNS beverage group reported significantly greater reductions in subjective feelings of hunger than those in the water group during 12 weeks.
TL;DR: People on diet drinks lost weight better than people on plain water. People on diet drinks had less hunger.
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misshavenross wrote: »I love to drink coke or pepsi, is it okay to drink it still while dieting? It has 0 calories so it won't add anything to my calorie deficit.
Personally I prefer Coke zero.
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Hasn't been back since she's been outed.Alatariel75 wrote: »misshavenross wrote: »xchocolategirl wrote: »Yes you can drink anything that will fit in your calorie goal. You ca even go over if you want, but your rate of loss will slow down.
Btw your profile picture is a model that I would always see in promotions for Chinese mechandise right now the product being modeled is the necklace.
I bought items from the merchant before, so I've seen that picture all over the site. Not sure if you know it's a copyrighted image... unless you're claiming to be the model in question... just a little FYI.
LOL don't kill me this girl thinks I'm using a fake picture???? Come send me the site my girl, I would love to see it
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I.....am not a confused snake, either.
I am confused, but I am enjoying the popcorn carb-up.4 -
Amazing.Alatariel75 wrote: »Google "artificial sweeteners and obesity." You will find all sorts of well-conducted and documented studies tying AS to obesity and diabetes. Not exactly the outcome you are after.
If you Google you will find many studies regarding artificial sweeteners and obesity. When you read the actual studies, you will not that not one of them actually finds a definitive link.
If you Google, you'll come up with links to Authority Nutrition (junk science site), Mercola (crackpot pseudoscientist), Dr. Axe (another tinfoil hat hack), etc. - all of which will give you a headache from rolling your eyes so much, but none of which have anything to do with the actual science regarding artificial sweeteners.
Examine.com, which is an unbiased, evidence-based site, does a good job of laying out the science here and also explaining correlation vs. causation. They also link to relevant studies (as they always do): https://examine.com/nutrition/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/
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