21 days 2 shakes a day, Apr 18- May 9
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there was a diet called "The Velocity Diet" touted on t-nation a few years back. I was tempted but never tried it. there were/are different iterations of it but im pretty sure it is all shakes for x amount of weeks.
IIRC it was considered a pretty extreme and sometimes aimed at those who simply couldnt/wouldnt spend time preparing meals or whatever. I think it was also generally used at the start of a planned weight loss
The only way I could see me trying it would be like if I were a rock star going on a 3 week tour lol, and I had no practical way of planning/cooking etc0 -
msalicia07 wrote: »I'm in. Unlike all the others on this post I'll be supportive. I've been doing two shakes a day and a sensible meal for about a month and I feel great. I don't have sugar cravings anymore and have a lot more energy. And yes, it is a 'reboot.' My mother lost 50lbs in 12 weeks doing something similar through a weight management program at a hospital (and kept it off!) So unless every person who commented negatively about your idea is a doctor or nutritionist, keep your comments to yourself
You've been doing it a month so far? Well, looks like I'll be joining you then. And thanks for your comment, I'm so glad you're feeling better. I know mentally I'm looking forward to the focus and routine of 1 thing, until I start feeling better all around. I've been feeling like a stuffed sausage, and it's affecting my sleep badly.
Oh, it's a pleasure to meet you!
It's been awesome! I stay under my calories almost everyday. I have tons of energy, no sugar cravings, no bloat, and my skin looks awesome because I have basically rid my body of all the horrible things I ate before I started the shakes. I drink two GNC Total Lean shakes a day, I mix with 1% milk so I get a few more calories because I use as a meal replacement. I give myself a day a week that I'll eat healthy meals to get a break from the shakes, and have noticed that I'll actually eat less than I normally would have, so it's definitely helped with portion control.
I always had a lot more energy, and just generally felt better. It really corrected my taste buds and cravings with food. My skin really improved as well, of course sleep, stomach issues, and I felt more positive and optimistic. It's amazing how food can cure so many ailments if we just get a balanced version of it. I never love water as much as I do when i'm eating better, so all around, it's worth it.
I really like that you have a day a week as well, can I ask what day? I bet that helps you have an extended version of this. I'm basically blending all my food in 2 shakes a day, I want to cram as much nutrition in my body for the next 3 weeks as possible. Fortunately i love the taste too. You're impressive with your discipline, I'm amazed. How much longer are you planning on going?1 -
I believe in reboots and not in the sense like a "computer" shutting off and turing on again however its more like a state of mind / body cleanse. Whenever I eat considerably under a standard caloric deficit and keep carbs low I always seem to enter that Keto "clean" state of mind where I get a lot more energy. Usually my skin clears up as well and I just generally have a better feeling of well being. I don't think this is sustainable, no, however times in my life during my service in the military and post military my body needed to just "unplug". Just like your diet I believe your nervous system can become "shot" form heavy deads, squats and sprints as well and could benefit greatly from de-loads or a built in rest week.
**My Bro Science opinion "some of it at least"
But at the end of the day anyone should be supported to do what they feel is right. Its not like going on a two shake a day thing is putting someone in physical jeopardy, and someone who would be put in harms way from something like this would probably already know their limitations.
msalicia07 good luck!4 -
cerise_noir wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »There is such a thing, cause I'm doing one. And I "need" one.
Humans don't need to reboot as we are are not computers. What you're doing has no scientific proof that it's necessary or even helpful. And a miserable way to spend a few weeks. No need to be miserable with shakes.
I remember your previous posts. You got really good advice. Why torture yourself?
What previous posts and advice. You are confusing me i think.0 -
CaptainHandsome wrote: »So if you're going to go back to your already normal sensible diet after your reboot, won't you just go back to the way you felt before the reboot also? A reboot isn't really a reboot if your habits don't change, and doing something for 21 days and then stopping isn't going to help form new habits either. It seems like you'd be better off doing something more long-term. Also, I'm not jumping down your throat, just a logical assessment from the perspective of a computer engineer who knows if I don't fix a problem before I reboot the computer, the problem is just going to come back after the reboot.
I have a long term normal eating lifestyle that got derailed this past couple months. And rebooting is an expression like resetting. Just going to focus on good nutrition for 21 days for the mental and physical benefits, then get back on my normal healthy balanced routine. Like when people get out of their workout routine, which happens. Sometimes a plan for the next couple weeks is exactly what they need to get back to a good routine again.
you guys are way over thinking this.3 -
msalicia07 wrote: »CaptainHandsome wrote: »So if you're going to go back to your already normal sensible diet after your reboot, won't you just go back to the way you felt before the reboot also? A reboot isn't really a reboot if your habits don't change, and doing something for 21 days and then stopping isn't going to help form new habits either. It seems like you'd be better off doing something more long-term. Also, I'm not jumping down your throat, just a logical assessment from the perspective of a computer engineer who knows if I don't fix a problem before I reboot the computer, the problem is just going to come back after the reboot.
I have a long term normal eating lifestyle that got derailed this past couple months. And rebooting is an expression like resetting. Just going to focus on good nutrition for 21 days for the mental and physical benefits, then get back on my normal healthy balanced routine. Like when people get out of their workout routine, which happens. Sometimes a plan for the next couple weeks is exactly what they need to get back to a good routine again.
you guys are way over thinking this.
LOL I totally agree with you, people are overthinking this completely.2 -
jpoehls9025 wrote: »I believe in reboots and not in the sense like a "computer" shutting off and turing on again however its more like a state of mind / body cleanse. Whenever I eat considerably under a standard caloric deficit and keep carbs low I always seem to enter that Keto "clean" state of mind where I get a lot more energy. Usually my skin clears up as well and I just generally have a better feeling of well being. I don't think this is sustainable, no, however times in my life during my service in the military and post military my body needed to just "unplug". Just like your diet I believe your nervous system can become "shot" form heavy deads, squats and sprints as well and could benefit greatly from de-loads or a built in rest week.
**My Bro Science opinion "some of it at least"
But at the end of the day anyone should be supported to do what they feel is right. Its not like going on a two shake a day thing is putting someone in physical jeopardy, and someone who would be put in harms way from something like this would probably already know their limitations.
msalicia07 good luck!
Thanks, and I'm saying it in the same way, reboot and reset is just a mental thing where I'm focusing on my priorities for the next 21 days, which will help immensely in getting me back into my normal healthy lifestyle I generally have. It is very much mental, but the physical perks of more energy and nutrition are always huge as well.1 -
what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?6
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
Don't count on an answer too much. I've noticed such questions have been largely ignored in this thread.0 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote:OP, if you're blending your normal food in to juices or smoothies, why not just eat the food? if you've been eating poorly, why not just make a decision to eat better long term rather than do something you're going to step away from in a few weeks?
Because juicing provide more of these phytochemicals, it also provides the body with more water. It's incredibly healthy, and now that my routine is thrown so badly, sometimes it's easier to refocus for 21 days with less variables. And I love the way it feels, how it effects my mental clarity, my sleep, energy, it's far more convenient, basically everything. Besides, there is so many delicious ways to make your juice, with ginger, mint, kale, apples, you can go on and on. There's infinite reasons really. I don't get the same abundance of nutrients and all the changes in the same amount of time with food. Sometimes it's easier to just jump in, and enjoy the process, which I do. I bet if people tried it themselves, it would make more sense as to why juicing is easier and more beneficial than just eating the food for an increment of time.
It's bazaar how so many people have a problem with it, truly.
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msalicia07 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote:OP, if you're blending your normal food in to juices or smoothies, why not just eat the food? if you've been eating poorly, why not just make a decision to eat better long term rather than do something you're going to step away from in a few weeks?
Because juicing provide more of these phytochemicals, it also provides the body with more water. It's incredibly healthy, and now that my routine is thrown so badly, sometimes it's easier to refocus for 21 days with less variables. And I love the way it feels, how it effects my mental clarity, my sleep, energy, it's far more convenient, basically everything. Besides, there is so many delicious ways to make your juice, with ginger, mint, kale, apples, you can go on and on. There's infinite reasons really. I don't get the same abundance of nutrients and all the changes in the same amount of time with food. Sometimes it's easier to just jump in, and enjoy the process, which I do. I bet if people tried it themselves, it would make more sense as to why juicing is easier and more beneficial than just eating the food for an increment of time.
It's bazaar how so many people have a problem with it, truly.
but if you are juicing then you are cutting the fiber out(which most juicers remove),so you are getting pure "sugar" and no fiber. you are cutting out a very vital part of the fruit/veggie.The water amount may or may not be more.7 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
I didn't say anything about toxins, but product of my poor diet, I'm looking forwarding to becoming more regular with proper nutrition. And it's no mystery we flush toxins from our skin as well, and mine is not looking healthy with this lifestyle I've been juggling.
And you want to know what... how spending 21 days getting the best nutrition I possibly can will help? How is this a question?0 -
gebeziseva wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
Don't count on an answer too much. I've noticed such questions have been largely ignored in this thread.
No questions towards me are being ignored. The only thing being ignored is that what I'm doing is incredibly healthy, but clearly not popular for no reason whatsoever.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
My biggie was sugar. I had a wicked sweet tooth, once I started the twice daily shakes my carb and sugar cravings virtually disappeared. I have more energy, I sleep better, and my skin is clear.2 -
msalicia07 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote:OP, if you're blending your normal food in to juices or smoothies, why not just eat the food? if you've been eating poorly, why not just make a decision to eat better long term rather than do something you're going to step away from in a few weeks?
Because juicing provide more of these phytochemicals, it also provides the body with more water. It's incredibly healthy, and now that my routine is thrown so badly, sometimes it's easier to refocus for 21 days with less variables. And I love the way it feels, how it effects my mental clarity, my sleep, energy, it's far more convenient, basically everything. Besides, there is so many delicious ways to make your juice, with ginger, mint, kale, apples, you can go on and on. There's infinite reasons really. I don't get the same abundance of nutrients and all the changes in the same amount of time with food. Sometimes it's easier to just jump in, and enjoy the process, which I do. I bet if people tried it themselves, it would make more sense as to why juicing is easier and more beneficial than just eating the food for an increment of time.
It's bazaar how so many people have a problem with it, truly.
Some of mine are blended and some are juice. They both have strengths, so it's good to utilize both. There are more nutrients in juicing. More fiber in shakes. I like them both. And if you really want to play "who knows more about juicing/smoothies" you should reconsider that. And I eat a meal and snacks as well. So, what's your issue again? Either way, still a better diet than most people, and it's temporary before transitioning to 1 shake a day. You might want to take a look at your own diet before continuing to criticize mine.
If you guys really "care" about people knowing about what is healthy or not, this thread is not where you need to be diverting your energy.0 -
My daily meals are very close to this reset. Day 44 is tomorrow. I have a protein shake in the AM, a protein bar for lunch. I will have a small snack following work, usually Oikos Triple zero Greek yogurt and then a sensible meal. I have lost weight, dropped down a pant size and 2 shirt sizes, had to take off my thumb rings before i lost them down a sink drain. I am no longer exhausted when I return home from work (RN). I no longer crave sweets or carbs.
If something works and is healthy do it! You know you best!3 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
My biggie was sugar. I had a wicked sweet tooth, once I started the twice daily shakes my carb and sugar cravings virtually disappeared. I have more energy, I sleep better, and my skin is clear.
if you are juicing you are still getting sugar. fruits and veggies have carbs(aka sugar).so how did those cravings go away? and how are you ridding your body of sugar/carbs? the only true way would be to not even include those and thats not healthy to do.3 -
msalicia07 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
I didn't say anything about toxins, but product of my poor diet, I'm looking forwarding to becoming more regular with proper nutrition. And it's no mystery we flush toxins from our skin as well, and mine is not looking healthy with this lifestyle I've been juggling.
And you want to know what... how spending 21 days getting the best nutrition I possibly can will help? How is this a question?
you didnt say anything about toxins another poster did.I wasnt quoting you saying that.becoming regular could be as easy as adding fiber to your diet,or healthy fats and plenty of water.and if you want to go with the best nutrition you possible can why limit it to 21 days and then have to keep repeating? what is so magical about 21 days? these are legit questions.2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
My biggie was sugar. I had a wicked sweet tooth, once I started the twice daily shakes my carb and sugar cravings virtually disappeared. I have more energy, I sleep better, and my skin is clear.
if you are juicing you are still getting sugar. fruits and veggies have carbs(aka sugar).so how did those cravings go away? and how are you ridding your body of sugar/carbs? the only true way would be to not even include those and thats not healthy to do.
I don't juice. I have two GNC Total Lean shakes a day with 8oz of 1% milk. I have one healthy meal, usually for dinner. I have a piece of fruit in the afternoon as a snack. I meet all my macros and am right on with my calories most days.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
I didn't say anything about toxins, but product of my poor diet, I'm looking forwarding to becoming more regular with proper nutrition. And it's no mystery we flush toxins from our skin as well, and mine is not looking healthy with this lifestyle I've been juggling.
And you want to know what... how spending 21 days getting the best nutrition I possibly can will help? How is this a question?
you didnt say anything about toxins another poster did.I wasnt quoting you saying that.becoming regular could be as easy as adding fiber to your diet,or healthy fats and plenty of water.and if you want to go with the best nutrition you possible can why limit it to 21 days and then have to keep repeating? what is so magical about 21 days? these are legit questions.
I've already explained why i'm doing it, no magical reason for 21. I don't have to repeat it. I choose to a couple times a year for health. Like I choose to intermittent fast. It's a choice. You're making this complicated for no reason. What is your problem?0 -
msalicia07 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
I didn't say anything about toxins, but product of my poor diet, I'm looking forwarding to becoming more regular with proper nutrition. And it's no mystery we flush toxins from our skin as well, and mine is not looking healthy with this lifestyle I've been juggling.
And you want to know what... how spending 21 days getting the best nutrition I possibly can will help? How is this a question?
you didnt say anything about toxins another poster did.I wasnt quoting you saying that.becoming regular could be as easy as adding fiber to your diet,or healthy fats and plenty of water.and if you want to go with the best nutrition you possible can why limit it to 21 days and then have to keep repeating? what is so magical about 21 days? these are legit questions.
I've already explained why i'm doing it, no magical reason for 21. I don't have to repeat it. I chose to a couple times a year for health. Like I chose to intermittent fast. It's a choice. You're making this complicated for no reason. What is your problem?
I'm not making it complicated, and I dont have a problem. Im asking legit questions that you seem not to want to answer in depth besides saying you do it for health reasons yet if its for health why is it only certain times if you choose not to repeat it? Im sure newbies reading this would like answers to these things as well.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
My biggie was sugar. I had a wicked sweet tooth, once I started the twice daily shakes my carb and sugar cravings virtually disappeared. I have more energy, I sleep better, and my skin is clear.
if you are juicing you are still getting sugar. fruits and veggies have carbs(aka sugar).so how did those cravings go away? and how are you ridding your body of sugar/carbs? the only true way would be to not even include those and thats not healthy to do.
I don't juice. I have two GNC Total Lean shakes a day with 8oz of 1% milk. I have one healthy meal, usually for dinner. I have a piece of fruit in the afternoon as a snack. I meet all my macros and am right on with my calories most days.
it has sugars and artificial sweeteners in them too though.but hey whatever floats your boat lol1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
I didn't say anything about toxins, but product of my poor diet, I'm looking forwarding to becoming more regular with proper nutrition. And it's no mystery we flush toxins from our skin as well, and mine is not looking healthy with this lifestyle I've been juggling.
And you want to know what... how spending 21 days getting the best nutrition I possibly can will help? How is this a question?
you didnt say anything about toxins another poster did.I wasnt quoting you saying that.becoming regular could be as easy as adding fiber to your diet,or healthy fats and plenty of water.and if you want to go with the best nutrition you possible can why limit it to 21 days and then have to keep repeating? what is so magical about 21 days? these are legit questions.
I've already explained why i'm doing it, no magical reason for 21. I don't have to repeat it. I chose to a couple times a year for health. Like I chose to intermittent fast. It's a choice. You're making this complicated for no reason. What is your problem?
I'm not making it complicated, and I dont have a problem. Im asking legit questions that you seem not to want to answer in depth besides saying you do it for health reasons yet if its for health why is it only certain times if you choose not to repeat it? Im sure newbies reading this would like answers to these things as well.
I "seem" not to want to answer? Just because you don't understand what I've stated multiple times, isn't a reflection of me avoiding anything. It's for health because it's a FOCUSED 21 days of high nutrition and routine. I like to transition into my general moderation and nutrition plan that I do most of the year. People can do this as long as they want, it's their preference and lifestyle to decide.1 -
My daily meals are very close to this reset. Day 44 is tomorrow. I have a protein shake in the AM, a protein bar for lunch. I will have a small snack following work, usually Oikos Triple zero Greek yogurt and then a sensible meal. I have lost weight, dropped down a pant size and 2 shirt sizes, had to take off my thumb rings before i lost them down a sink drain. I am no longer exhausted when I return home from work (RN). I no longer crave sweets or carbs.
If something works and is healthy do it! You know you best!
Congrats on your success, and thanks for the support. Who knew drinking my veggies twice a day would piss so many people off, but I agree, if it's healthy do it! I feel so tired doing so little right now, I'm looking forward to having full days ahead of me again
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msalicia07 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote:OP, if you're blending your normal food in to juices or smoothies, why not just eat the food? if you've been eating poorly, why not just make a decision to eat better long term rather than do something you're going to step away from in a few weeks?
Because juicing provide more of these phytochemicals, it also provides the body with more water. It's incredibly healthy, and now that my routine is thrown so badly, sometimes it's easier to refocus for 21 days with less variables. And I love the way it feels, how it effects my mental clarity, my sleep, energy, it's far more convenient, basically everything. Besides, there is so many delicious ways to make your juice, with ginger, mint, kale, apples, you can go on and on. There's infinite reasons really. I don't get the same abundance of nutrients and all the changes in the same amount of time with food. Sometimes it's easier to just jump in, and enjoy the process, which I do. I bet if people tried it themselves, it would make more sense as to why juicing is easier and more beneficial than just eating the food for an increment of time.
It's bazaar how so many people have a problem with it, truly.
Juicing doesn't give your produce magical properties to be more nutritious. You have a digestive system that is more than capable of working and absorbing these things for you - id say you're doing yourself a disservice by relying on juices and smoothies as your digestive system will become less efficient.
I have plenty of ways to make fruit and vegetables taste amazing without needing to whiz them or juice them. I get a mountain of variety and nutrients every day. And I drink sufficient water to hydrate me. Every day. Not just for 3 weeks at a time. Perhaps working on sustainable changes would be more beneficial in the long term - unless of course you plan on doing this forever because its so good for you.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »what I want to know is what toxins are being cleansed and what bowel issues are being fixed from doing this?
My biggie was sugar. I had a wicked sweet tooth, once I started the twice daily shakes my carb and sugar cravings virtually disappeared. I have more energy, I sleep better, and my skin is clear.
if you are juicing you are still getting sugar. fruits and veggies have carbs(aka sugar).so how did those cravings go away? and how are you ridding your body of sugar/carbs? the only true way would be to not even include those and thats not healthy to do.
I don't juice. I have two GNC Total Lean shakes a day with 8oz of 1% milk. I have one healthy meal, usually for dinner. I have a piece of fruit in the afternoon as a snack. I meet all my macros and am right on with my calories most days.
it has sugars and artificial sweeteners in them too though.but hey whatever floats your boat lol
Yep the powder for the shake has 3 grams of sugar. I haven't completely cut out sugar and carbs, I just don't consume in excess like I did before. Not sure why you are trying to argue with me about it. I've been doing it for 4 weeks and my cravings have decreased, drastically. Might not have worked for you but it has worked for me. I know that I sleep better at night and have more energy during the day. And I know I have lost weight and feel awesome.
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Sugar is NOT a toxin12
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msalicia07 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote:OP, if you're blending your normal food in to juices or smoothies, why not just eat the food? if you've been eating poorly, why not just make a decision to eat better long term rather than do something you're going to step away from in a few weeks?
Because juicing provide more of these phytochemicals, it also provides the body with more water. It's incredibly healthy, and now that my routine is thrown so badly, sometimes it's easier to refocus for 21 days with less variables. And I love the way it feels, how it effects my mental clarity, my sleep, energy, it's far more convenient, basically everything. Besides, there is so many delicious ways to make your juice, with ginger, mint, kale, apples, you can go on and on. There's infinite reasons really. I don't get the same abundance of nutrients and all the changes in the same amount of time with food. Sometimes it's easier to just jump in, and enjoy the process, which I do. I bet if people tried it themselves, it would make more sense as to why juicing is easier and more beneficial than just eating the food for an increment of time.
It's bazaar how so many people have a problem with it, truly.
So, tell me, what's your problem with me having a generally healthy lifestyle, and bout 2 times a year blending and juicing my veggies (which I do get more nutrients from (fact), and wouldn't be consuming nearly as many veggies in that time without blending or juicing them (fact), for 2 meals a day, with snacks and an edible meal.
I'm very aware what CICO is, and moderation, and you are clearly taking this way out of context. There is nothing extreme, harmful, or complicated. No one said anything about magical properties. It is, however, more nutrient dense, and you can consume more veggies by drinking them. Which is a really great way for me to "reset" myself after the last couple months I've had in regards to my lifestyle, when normally it's pretty decent and consistent. I'm LOOKING FORWARD to resetting my habits, palette, cravings, general thinking about food, how I feel, my sleep and digestive track, and getting back to my normal routine feeling like a million bucks.
If you have a problem with this, I DON'T CARE. Nor should anyone, unless they're being haters like a bunch of you ridiculous empty shell people who are making it an issue for no other reason than to be argumentative and self righteous. Take a look at yourselves!
And anyone who would like to do a reset as well, god forbid you speak up, because you'll feel like you have to defend yourself for ages. So, PM me. Have a good night.1 -
You're right, it's poison in excess. Fatty liver anyone?0
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