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Easy way to get heat stroke if one isn't conditioned correctly for it or the body isn't efficiently cooled. Not a good idea. Working out in a hot room doesn't increase the calorie burn to any significance. Also, there is no "detoxing" going on. This is a sales pitch from people just trying to sell an idea to pack their classes.NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »It's HIIT in a room that's about 90-95 degrees. I'm used to the heat since I've practiced Hot Yoga and Bikram for years. It's great for detox
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Link the studies. And before you say "google it", you made the statement that they've been conducted, so burden is on you to link them, not for us to "search" for them. Show us a "peer reviewed clinical study". Not some blog or advertisement or testimony.NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
Here's some info showing that it can be dangerous:
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healthlibrary/conditions/non-traumatic_emergencies/exercise-related_heat_exhaustion_134,258/
https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/phys_agents/heat_health.html
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Did not read the whole thread, but I'm sure it's been said already...
Without even taking in the heat factor, HIIT can't be done for an hour...That's impossible. If you are lasting an our, it's just IT.12 -
It's a BS workout with no scientific data to back it up along with possibly being a hazard to actually health from exposure to heat stroke, etc.NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »bigmuneymfp wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
She said hyperthermia, not hypothermia. If you're gonna accuse someone of false statements, probably ought to get your own statement correct.
I would like to see one of those studies. Can you provide a link?
On my phone. Simple typo. You can search for articles posted on Shape Magazine and Menshealth.
you did not seriously cite shape magazine and menshealth as research????????
Calm down
Seriously why is everyone wound up so tightly? It's quite entertaining lol
HIIT is a thing. It's effective when done CORRECTLY. Doing it in a room at 100 degrees isn't doing it correctly. If someone happens to think what you post is a good idea, does it, gets a heat related problem and gets hospitalized for it, you don't think that's serious?
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THIS. So many BS workouts by "gurus" making claims of HIIT, Tabata, etc. for an hour. If one can workout an hour, it ain't HIIT. It can still be INTERVAL TRAINING though.I doubt that it is true HIIT, as HIIT is supposed to be so intense you can only do 15-20 minutes, and thats all you need due to the intensity.
That said, you would not burn more than if in regular room temperature, and less than you would if you were doing it in the cold.
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No because of taking actually courses in anatomy, physiology, kinesiology and biology. It's BS propaganda to sell memberships.NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »from their website:
Hot HIIT is a training system that combines High Intensity Interval Training(HIIT) and Pilates principles. It combines muscle toning and cardio in a room heated to around 100 degrees. The practice creates long, lean muscle mass while burning fat. It also, in turn, creates rapid results. It strengthens your core, improves circulation, and increases flexibility.
you can't create "long, lean, muscle mass" that is total bull...
and doing true HIIT in a 100 degree room is downright dangerous...
And you would know because you've tried it?
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People don't create "toxins" in their bodies. Snakes and spiders do as well as jelly fish and puffer fish. Humans.............no. So there is no "detoxing" going on. And if one was inundated with actual toxic chemicals, they'd need a hospital, not a hot room to exercise in.NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »People, the OP asked a simple question. In the spirit of community and courtesy, I think you should either answer the question to the best of your ability, or ignore the thread.
You are wantonly criticizing what she likes to do. We could do that with any form of exercise (weightlifting doesn't get your heart rate up like running! Too much running makes it hard to maintain muscle!) and we all probably do some rather hokey stuff.
If she likes to jump around in a hot room because the intense sweating feels good and cleansing, who am I to criticize? (And who are you?)
Heck, I love a spin class. But all that pedaling? I get nowhere. I stay in exactly the same place. Now, isn't that rather silly?
because it is woo woo and potentially deadly ...
and sweating does not cleanse anything...
Sweating is a great way to detox and clean your pores. Deadly? Get a grip its not that serious.
You've bought the whole "holistic" idea hook, line and sinker.
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Easy way to get heat stroke if one isn't conditioned correctly for it or the body isn't efficiently cooled. Not a good idea. Working out in a hot room doesn't increase the calorie burn to any significance. Also, there is no "detoxing" going on. This is a sales pitch from people just trying to sell an idea to pack their classes.NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »It's HIIT in a room that's about 90-95 degrees. I'm used to the heat since I've practiced Hot Yoga and Bikram for years. It's great for detox
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Yep, need to be conditioned to the heat. Few people are today. Way back in the day in HS we'd practice full court basketball and lift in a gym with no a/c and closed up all day except for practice. It would routinely be 90+ for weeks during the summer so the gym got hot.
Of course we would be out doing farm labor in the heat (bailing hay, walking beans, etc) for 8-10 hours before practice.
You can get used to working in the heat, but for someone living in an air conditioned home, working in an air conditioned office and trotting into a class in a 95 degree room is a recipe for disaster IMO.2 -
from their website:
Hot HIIT is a training system that combines High Intensity Interval Training(HIIT) and Pilates principles. It combines muscle toning and cardio in a room heated to around 100 degrees. The practice creates long, lean muscle mass while burning fat. It also, in turn, creates rapid results. It strengthens your core, improves circulation, and increases flexibility.
you can't create "long, lean, muscle mass" that is total bull...
and doing true HIIT in a 100 degree room is downright dangerous...
Fortunately they don't appear to be doing actual HIIT, so it's just doing calisthenics in a hot room.
Which will burn no more calories than doing calisthenics in a regular temperature room.
The whole "long, lean muscle mass" is typical Pilates BS which I've seen parroted a million times. I guess whoever originated the advertising campaign for Pilates failed to understand the basic physiological principle that muscles have fixed origin and insertion points which can't be changed by exercise. And that "lean muscle mass" is a completely redundant phrase, as all muscle is lean.10 -
Let's be more positive here....This MFP is supposed to be encouraging and a learning platform. No need to attack someone for asking a question. If you have concerns with someone's workout, just state your advice and leave the negative opinion out of it. It's up to the person to take or not take the advice.
As for calories burned during your HIIT...Maybe get yourself a fitbit of something similar. Use it to track your heart rate to get a more accurate idea of the calories you personally burn during the workout.
When people are doing stupid stuff and trying to promote stupid ideas under the guise of information seeking, they need to be called out on their crap.9 -
NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »People, the OP asked a simple question. In the spirit of community and courtesy, I think you should either answer the question to the best of your ability, or ignore the thread.
You are wantonly criticizing what she likes to do. We could do that with any form of exercise (weightlifting doesn't get your heart rate up like running! Too much running makes it hard to maintain muscle!) and we all probably do some rather hokey stuff.
If she likes to jump around in a hot room because the intense sweating feels good and cleansing, who am I to criticize? (And who are you?)
Heck, I love a spin class. But all that pedaling? I get nowhere. I stay in exactly the same place. Now, isn't that rather silly?
because it is woo woo and potentially deadly ...
and sweating does not cleanse anything...
Sweating is a great way to detox and clean your pores. Deadly? Get a grip its not that serious.
doing real HIIT in a 100 degree room can be deadly, yes. not sure why that is so hard to comprehend...
Sorry to disappoint but still here lol. Whatever your definition of HIIT is...
that would be an all out burst for 20 seconds rest for 10 seconds then repeat....
good luck doing that in a 100 degree room ...
A lot of programs claim to be HIIT and they are nothing close. From reviewing the website this appears to be one such program.
That would be one method, but essentially you are right. Just doesn't have to be a 20/10 method. Other lengths of times can be used.3 -
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Easy way to get heat stroke if one isn't conditioned correctly for it or the body isn't efficiently cooled. Not a good idea. Working out in a hot room doesn't increase the calorie burn to any significance. Also, there is no "detoxing" going on. This is a sales pitch from people just trying to sell an idea to pack their classes.NYC_Yogi_79 wrote: »It's HIIT in a room that's about 90-95 degrees. I'm used to the heat since I've practiced Hot Yoga and Bikram for years. It's great for detox
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Yep, need to be conditioned to the heat. Few people are today. Way back in the day in HS we'd practice full court basketball and lift in a gym with no a/c and closed up all day except for practice. It would routinely be 90+ for weeks during the summer so the gym got hot.
Of course we would be out doing farm labor in the heat (bailing hay, walking beans, etc) for 8-10 hours before practice.
You can get used to working in the heat, but for someone living in an air conditioned home, working in an air conditioned office and trotting into a class in a 95 degree room is a recipe for disaster IMO.
I agree with this guy!
I know this situation does not apply to everyone, but back in my Army days the only ones who were Heat Cat's were the guys/gals who never conditioned EVER and only trained in AC cooled environments. Now I'm not promoting the idea as being great for everyone, but however it does have its place of importance in either sports or job specific environments that are necessary to better acclimate yourself to the stress induced by the heat. Otherwise people would be dropping like flies when it truly counts and I know this from personel experience (never been a heat cat ever now Ive had hella bad heat rashes from my IOTV and IBA but never passed out or had heat exhaustion).1 -
I'm Canadian in a northern city. It snowed last weekend and it will again. Few homes have central air here because it rarely gets that hot.
I learned to run in minus 20 C weather. The first time I wilted on a run was on a hot spring day.
I have no doubt my blood is as thick as molasses to keep my body furnace going.
The thought of an intense workout in a hot room...indescribably miserable.2 -
I'm Canadian in a northern city. It snowed last weekend and it will again. Few homes have central air here because it rarely gets that hot.
I learned to run in minus 20 C weather. The first time I wilted on a run was on a hot spring day.
I have no doubt my blood is as thick as molasses to keep my body furnace going.
The thought of an intense workout in a hot room...indescribably miserable.
What it comes down to is people thinking the more suffering they go through, the better the result will be. I get running in -20, I'm from Ottawa, so you need to be able to do it. Does running in -20 make it better than running in +20? No. As long as the work gets done.
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Shawshankcan wrote: »I'm Canadian in a northern city. It snowed last weekend and it will again. Few homes have central air here because it rarely gets that hot.
I learned to run in minus 20 C weather. The first time I wilted on a run was on a hot spring day.
I have no doubt my blood is as thick as molasses to keep my body furnace going.
The thought of an intense workout in a hot room...indescribably miserable.
What it comes down to is people thinking the more suffering they go through, the better the result will be. I get running in -20, I'm from Ottawa, so you need to be able to do it. Does running in -20 make it better than running in +20? No. As long as the work gets done.
I hear what you are saying, I think just for some people the challenge is desirable. Now as Ive said before its not for everyone and I dont think its necessary for everyone. But da*n I must say, it can really build mental toughness which is essential for some individuals.0 -
jpoehls9025 wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »I'm Canadian in a northern city. It snowed last weekend and it will again. Few homes have central air here because it rarely gets that hot.
I learned to run in minus 20 C weather. The first time I wilted on a run was on a hot spring day.
I have no doubt my blood is as thick as molasses to keep my body furnace going.
The thought of an intense workout in a hot room...indescribably miserable.
What it comes down to is people thinking the more suffering they go through, the better the result will be. I get running in -20, I'm from Ottawa, so you need to be able to do it. Does running in -20 make it better than running in +20? No. As long as the work gets done.
I hear what you are saying, I think just for some people the challenge is desirable. Now as Ive said before its not for everyone and I dont think its necessary for everyone. But da*n I must say, it can really build mental toughness which is essential for some individuals.
And that is something different. If you want to run a death race through Death Valley because few people have done it, that is one thing. If you are doing it on the premise that it is somehow better and detoxifies you, you'd be wrong.2 -
Shawshankcan wrote: »jpoehls9025 wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »I'm Canadian in a northern city. It snowed last weekend and it will again. Few homes have central air here because it rarely gets that hot.
I learned to run in minus 20 C weather. The first time I wilted on a run was on a hot spring day.
I have no doubt my blood is as thick as molasses to keep my body furnace going.
The thought of an intense workout in a hot room...indescribably miserable.
What it comes down to is people thinking the more suffering they go through, the better the result will be. I get running in -20, I'm from Ottawa, so you need to be able to do it. Does running in -20 make it better than running in +20? No. As long as the work gets done.
I hear what you are saying, I think just for some people the challenge is desirable. Now as Ive said before its not for everyone and I dont think its necessary for everyone. But da*n I must say, it can really build mental toughness which is essential for some individuals.
And that is something different. If you want to run a death race through Death Valley because few people have done it, that is one thing. If you are doing it on the premise that it is somehow better and detoxifies you, you'd be wrong.
LOL I hear you there, I dont believe there is any benefits in the "detoxification" ideologies. But definitely can produce some serious bad @ssery mental fortitude.0 -
Symptoms of hyperthermia, or heat-related illness, vary according to the specific type of illness. The most severe form of hyperthermia is heat stroke. This happens when the body is no longer able to regulate its internal temperature; this is a medical emergency. (this is quoted from medicinenet) Hyperthermia is as real as hypothermia. Have you never heard of heat stroke? I've had symptoms before and almost totally blacked out. Some symptoms include muscle cramps, dizziness/lightheadedness, weakness, confusion.
I'm not saying that everyone in a hot room will experience this, but it can happen. We get trained on treating heat stroke in first aid classes, its a real thing. There is a reason for sweating, and it is too cool the body. The body cannot cool itself properly in a heated room. I don't see any benefits to doing HIIT in a hot room, but there do seem to be many disadvantages. You will sweat even in an air conditioned room. The best way to guesstimate your calorie burn would be to use a HR monitor, but it works best on steady state cardio, which HIIT is not.1 -
I like running in about minus 2 C. I can dress in layers and unzip to maintain a steady temperature. No sweat.0
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I like running in about minus 2 C. I can dress in layers and unzip to maintain a steady temperature. No sweat.
I'm good to about -15, then I just can't anymore. Not a fan of the cold. Bad choice of living environment here. I was running in plus 30C one day after a weekend of poor hydration. I stopped sweating and started feeling cold. The headache after was pretty bad. It took me days to recover.
OP, if you want to do it, do it. It isn't giving you the benefits you think it is though.0
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