Any Gary Taubes fans out here?
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He is generally frowned upon on these forums. He is a very good journalist though and knows how to make money in journalism. His knowledge on nutrition is amusing at best, but hey, he's making money with it so good for him.20
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Here is the low carb group: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group1
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Frowned upon is a bit of an understatement. He's generally considered a fraud who found a way to get rich through food scaring.20
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Frowned upon is a bit of an understatement. He's generally considered a fraud who found a way to get rich through food scaring.
I was trying to be civil
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He is generally frowned upon on these forums. He is a very good journalist though and knows how to make money in journalism. His knowledge on nutrition is amusing at best, but hey, he's making money with it so good for him.
thisTacklewasher wrote: »Frowned upon is a bit of an understatement. He's generally considered a fraud who found a way to get rich through food scaring.
and this ..
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No, but I'm a raspberry fan.1
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Frowned upon is a bit of an understatement. He's generally considered a fraud who found a way to get rich through food scaring.
I was trying to be civil
Believe or it not, that is my "civil" reply to the topic. My actual thoughts would give too many *kitten*'s to be legible.11 -
Taubes is a pseudoscientific fraud with no actual training/education whatsoever in any subject even remotely related to health or nutrition. He's a snake oil peddler who sells books based upon junk science, woo and fearmongering. And that's being as nice about it as I can possibly be.22
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I'm a fan. Lean-meat-healthy-whole-grains was a doozy to overcome but his Good Calories Bad Calories was instrumental for me in that regard. I think he's done a world of good for nutrition science.0
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AlabasterVerve wrote: »I'm a fan. Lean-meat-healthy-whole-grains was a doozy to overcome but his Good Calories Bad Calories was instrumental for me in that regard. I think he's done a world of good for nutrition science.
how has he done a world of good for nutrition science when he knows squat about it? thats like getting nutrition info from dan rather or any other newscaster/journalist. That would be like getting an eating plan from a podiatrist.15 -
I pretty much agree with what Anthony Colpo has to say about Taubes and his BS: http://anthonycolpo.com/the-art-of-*kitten*-part-1-gary-taubes-and-nusi/
[ETA:] The link above gets mangled by MFP's word censor. You have to substitute the slang word for male bovine excrement in place of *kitten* to get to the proper URL.5 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »I'm a fan. Lean-meat-healthy-whole-grains was a doozy to overcome but his Good Calories Bad Calories was instrumental for me in that regard. I think he's done a world of good for nutrition science.
how has he done a world of good for nutrition science when he knows squat about it? thats like getting nutrition info from dan rather or any other newscaster/journalist. That would be like getting an eating plan from a podiatrist.
By expecting it to be, you know, science. It doesn't matter whether what he personally believes is right or wrong he's had a huge impact on nutrition research for the better.0 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »I'm a fan. Lean-meat-healthy-whole-grains was a doozy to overcome but his Good Calories Bad Calories was instrumental for me in that regard. I think he's done a world of good for nutrition science.
how has he done a world of good for nutrition science when he knows squat about it? thats like getting nutrition info from dan rather or any other newscaster/journalist. That would be like getting an eating plan from a podiatrist.
By expecting it to be, you know, science. It doesn't matter whether what he personally believes is right or wrong he's had a huge impact on nutrition research for the better.
He's had about as much of an impact as Dr. Oz has. And he has even less credibility than Dr. Oz (if that's possible), by virtue of the fact that he's nothing more than a journalist. He has no education or science background in nutrition and his "research" has been dismantled many times over by many people who do have training and education in the field. He himself has admitted that even if his own foundation (NuSi) found scientific evidence which contradicted his viewpoints, he wouldn't change his mind about them.13 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »I'm a fan. Lean-meat-healthy-whole-grains was a doozy to overcome but his Good Calories Bad Calories was instrumental for me in that regard. I think he's done a world of good for nutrition science.
how has he done a world of good for nutrition science when he knows squat about it? thats like getting nutrition info from dan rather or any other newscaster/journalist. That would be like getting an eating plan from a podiatrist.
By expecting it to be, you know, science. It doesn't matter whether what he personally believes is right or wrong he's had a huge impact on nutrition research for the better.
science is one thing,what he spouts is not. you can get what he spouts from any magazine,doesnt make it legit,its like getting your news from the national enquirer and taking stock in it. I still want to know how he made an impact on nutrition when he knows zilch about it?6 -
Here is a peer-reviewed study led by Dr. Kevin Hall (who is a degreed physiologist and clinical researcher, as opposed to an uneducated journalist), who runs the research laboratory at the National Institute of Health, which thoroughly, systematically and scientifically dismantles Taubes' low-carb derp: http://itarget.com.br/newclients/sbgg.com.br/informativos/14-09-15/1.pdf12
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I don't know, I suppose it could be argued that making wild, unsubstantiated claims which forces actual scientists to research and refute could be considered a service...12
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Oh good grief no. He's a joke, (and yes I've read his books).4
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He has plenty of fans, the people who follow/believe his points of views and advice like him. The people who disagree and do not follow his way of thinking hate him. Pretty much goes for every self proclaimed expert on the interwebs.2
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Enjoyed reading the comments. Knew his ideas were controversial, just didn't know the extent of it in this forum.0
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I believe the only thing I've read by him is his piece in the NY Times, something about a Big Fat Lie.
It made sense based on what I know about my own body and my own health/weight journey. So yes, I suppose I'm a minor fan. I never knew he was controversial or hated until I read these message boards. But then a lot of stuff considered the conventional wisdom on these boards, I think is controversial or flat out wrong. Different strokes.3 -
Christine_72 wrote: »He has plenty of fans, the people who follow/believe his points of views and advice like him. The people who disagree and do not follow his way of thinking hate him. Pretty much goes for every self proclaimed expert on the interwebs.
Dr. Oz has a lot of fans too. For that matter, so did Charles Manson. I don't judge veracity by the size of one's fan base.10 -
Christine_72 wrote: »He has plenty of fans, the people who follow/believe his points of views and advice like him. The people who disagree and do not follow his way of thinking hate him. Pretty much goes for every self proclaimed expert on the interwebs.
Dr. Oz has a lot of fans too. For that matter, so did Charles Manson. I don't judge veracity by the size of one's fan base.
And Dr. Mercola...
And Justin Bieber...
There's no accounting for taste.12 -
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Don't forget Freelee the YouTube banana girl!
I would trust the banana girl before some of these "experts"...
The summer my sister in law blew up my phone with texts screaming at me for refusing to listen to a Mercola webinar while on vacation and warning me that I was making my son autistic and would eventually "give" him (my son) cerebral palsey if I didn't chelate him of the nonexistant Thimerisal in his vaccinations still burns painfully in one corner of my mind...
I call some of these " doctors" The Crazymakers...they whip their fans into a froth of paranoia but damn, do they ever make money doing it. So there's that.
All well and good, follow what thou wilt but don't jam it down my throat, and everybody winds up happy.
I think if "hate," if you will, comes from that...these people tend to make their own beliefs a crusade, often with a gigantic intrusive marketing push - all fueled on fear tactics, then they can't believe people tell them to shut up, LOL.
Not saying this of Taubes specifically or trying to make the OP feel bad. But yeah, if there is a negative reputation, this sort of thing is why.3 -
Christine_72 wrote: »He has plenty of fans, the people who follow/believe his points of views and advice like him. The people who disagree and do not follow his way of thinking hate him. Pretty much goes for every self proclaimed expert on the interwebs.
Dr. Oz has a lot of fans too. For that matter, so did Charles Manson. I don't judge veracity by the size of one's fan base.
Lol Touche'
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I wouldnt go that far lol she has peddled so much woo that a lot of those that have followed her way of eating have ended up with health issues and gained weight(of course) she also totes that it helped or cured her mothers cancer at one point. she also loves to slander others nothing good about her either0 -
I never could understand people who spread false information just to popularize a dietary pattern. The raised expectations do more harm than good in the long run. Not to mention to toll the truth takes on their own credibility.5
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
I wouldnt go that far lol she has peddled so much woo that a lot of those that have followed her way of eating have ended up with health issues and gained weight(of course) she also totes that it helped or cured her mothers cancer at one point. she also loves to slander others nothing good about her either
Nah, I was being facetious, Banana Girl really is bananas . 3
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