Fasting 28 days?
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mca90guitar wrote: »just read he was on day 4. Still call bs and I would bet he is eating something and hiding it.
I don't know, I hope so. Like I said some previous posts back, I've left some brownies lying around, it hadn't been touched so far, but when night comes, we will see. Lol.
Someone needs to intervene right away. If he truly made it to day 4, the way forward may feel "easier" for him and he may be more motivated to continue because the worst is behind. I was hospitalized for this in the past. It's stupid. Someone needs to do something.1 -
Tell him to at least wear a helmet so that when he inevitably passes out he doesn't die from a concussive brain bleed.
Another vote for his parents needing to step up to the plate here. He lives under their roof, is 15, and is therefore legally under their care and control. Perhaps they are taking a "this too shall pass" stance without realizing the potentially lifelong repercussions of their son's current foolish actions.3 -
I agree with (not so) amused, there has to be an intervention. This isn't just a silly idea by a teenager looking at things on the internet. This is like that stupid suicide game doing the rounds, it is life threatening. He needs to be stopped by whatever means.1
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emmaling142 wrote: »At my worst, I was a member of a pro-anorexia website. Even there, a 28 day water only fast would be considered too much.
Right? I just don't understand his logic. Thanks for sharing.
He is a 15 yer old boy. Logic does NOT enter the equation.1 -
emmaling142 wrote: »At my worst, I was a member of a pro-anorexia website. Even there, a 28 day water only fast would be considered too much.
Right? I just don't understand his logic. Thanks for sharing.
He is a 15 yer old boy. Logic does NOT enter the equation.
And this is precisely why his parents need to, then.2 -
sorry if it were my child I would intervene. prove to my child that this could kill them or start an eating disorder, if they didnt listen I would look for the signs(and still intervene). my daughters friend stopped eating and was only drinking water(she wasnt fat,just had boyfriends telling her she was). autopsy showed that she hadnt had anything to eat in about 2 weeks.she died because her heart gave out.she was also a cheerleader.so she was working out and doing this too which Im sure exacerbated the issue.if the boy wont listen then he needs to see a psychiatrist/psychologist and maybe be admitted as there may be underlying issues going on. boys can develop eating disorders too.3
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »If it were me, I'd consider mentioning to him and your parents that he's a minor and can be hospitalized against his will and hooked up to an IV and/or feeding tube.Yeah I already informed my parents, they've told him a bunch of times about it not being a good idea, yet he still insists on it, so ridiculous.
Um, what? He is a CHILD. Your parents are the PARENTS. He doesn't get to "insist" on this kitten. He is deliberately harming himself. Pretty sure in most western countries that's grounds for him to be sent to a mental health hospital against his will.This. He is a minor, end of story. If my child did this-you have two options: stop this dumb "fast" or find your self in a hospital. If he doesn't like it, too bad. Parents are there to be parents, not to be their kid's best friend (not saying they are mutually exclusive).
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Guys chill out with the abuse bs. My parents found out the same day he was on day 4 as I did, which was YESTERDAY. In fact my dad and mom had a long talk with him. He's a teenager, when I was once a teenager I tried my best not to let my guardians know what I'm doing, I was very stubborn just like he is. Plus in our household we have a lot of things going on at the moment that would stray our attention, and it's something serious and very personal which is piling up stress with my parents. Don't automatically assume my parents are abusing him. All I asked was some insight, if you thought something else then message me personally, I should've been more clear, so that part was my fault and I apologize. Thank you and I honestly do appreciate the feedback and info you guys provide, it really helps on my part.
ALSO I would like to announce, yesterday I left some sweets lying around, he ended up eating most of it. BUT if he ever does do this again, I will be pressing the topic on health with him a bit more (so will my parents) and take all of you guys suggestion into play too. Again thank you.5 -
Guys chill out with the abuse bs. My parents found out the same day he was on day 4 as I did, which was YESTERDAY. In fact my dad and mom had a long talk with him. He's a teenager, when I was once a teenager I tried my best not to let my guardians know what I'm doing, I was very stubborn just like he is. Plus in our household we have a lot of things going on at the moment that would stray our attention, and it's something serious and very personal which is piling up stress with my parents. Don't automatically assume my parents are abusing him. All I asked was some insight, if you thought something else then message me personally, I should've been more clear, so that part was my fault and I apologize. Thank you and I honestly do appreciate the feedback and info you guys provide, it really helps on my part.
I'm sorry your family is under stress at the moment. But the truth is your brother's potential harm needs to take precedence here, and the stress in your family may be a contributing factor to *why* he's doing this in the first place. He needs help. At least let your parents see this thread. With everything else going on, they need to realize that *this* needs to be their priority right now, regardless of whatever else might be going on.7 -
Guys chill out with the abuse bs. My parents found out the same day he was on day 4 as I did, which was YESTERDAY. In fact my dad and mom had a long talk with him. He's a teenager, when I was once a teenager I tried my best not to let my guardians know what I'm doing, I was very stubborn just like he is. Plus in our household we have a lot of things going on at the moment that would stray our attention, and it's something serious and very personal which is piling up stress with my parents. Don't automatically assume my parents are abusing him. All I asked was some insight, if you thought something else then message me personally, I should've been more clear, so that part was my fault and I apologize. Thank you and I honestly do appreciate the feedback and info you guys provide, it really helps on my part.
The point people are trying to make is that neglect is abuse, and if your parents fail to intervene, they are neglecting your brother. Your earlier posts made it seem like your parents were not taking a firm stand. In fact, if he is still not eating then they do need to step it up, no matter what else is going on.
Perhaps he's not eating because he's feeling ignored due to the 'serious and personal' stuff which is stressing your parents.2 -
So, crisis averted? Hmm.1
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kshama2001 wrote: »Guys chill out with the abuse bs. My parents found out the same day he was on day 4 as I did, which was YESTERDAY. In fact my dad and mom had a long talk with him. He's a teenager, when I was once a teenager I tried my best not to let my guardians know what I'm doing, I was very stubborn just like he is. Plus in our household we have a lot of things going on at the moment that would stray our attention, and it's something serious and very personal which is piling up stress with my parents. Don't automatically assume my parents are abusing him. All I asked was some insight, if you thought something else then message me personally, I should've been more clear, so that part was my fault and I apologize. Thank you and I honestly do appreciate the feedback and info you guys provide, it really helps on my part.
The point people are trying to make is that neglect is abuse, and if your parents fail to intervene, they are neglecting your brother. Your earlier posts made it seem like your parents were not taking a firm stand. In fact, if he is still not eating then they do need to step it up, no matter what else is going on.
Perhaps he's not eating because he's feeling ignored due to the 'serious and personal' stuff which is stressing your parents.
Actually they were not neglecting him, my lil brother was involved in something much more serious than this fasting phase, so their attention was on that part a bit more of his life; which I can't go into details. Sure they should've noticed what he was doing that one, I can see where you are coming from and yes they do feel regret for not noticing it, but its understand bale on my part, but if you were in my position and knew what is currently happening in our house, you would understand.1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Guys chill out with the abuse bs. My parents found out the same day he was on day 4 as I did, which was YESTERDAY. In fact my dad and mom had a long talk with him. He's a teenager, when I was once a teenager I tried my best not to let my guardians know what I'm doing, I was very stubborn just like he is. Plus in our household we have a lot of things going on at the moment that would stray our attention, and it's something serious and very personal which is piling up stress with my parents. Don't automatically assume my parents are abusing him. All I asked was some insight, if you thought something else then message me personally, I should've been more clear, so that part was my fault and I apologize. Thank you and I honestly do appreciate the feedback and info you guys provide, it really helps on my part.
I'm sorry your family is under stress at the moment. But the truth is your brother's potential harm needs to take precedence here, and the stress in your family may be a contributing factor to *why* he's doing this in the first place. He needs help. At least let your parents see this thread. With everything else going on, they need to realize that *this* needs to be their priority right now, regardless of whatever else might be going on.
The cause of stress is because of what my lil bro is involved in at the moment aside from the fasting. Basically he's all the attention right now. And again yes they should've noticed what was going on the first day which I can understand how you guys feel the way you are. Thank you for the feedback. And yes I did figured out why he's doing it when I talked to him today. But that's all I can say right now. Again thank you.1 -
Sounds even more like your brother needs some professional help. Perhaps suggest to your parents that they visit your family doctor for an assessment and/or referral to a specialist?5
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snickerscharlie wrote: »So, crisis averted? Hmm.
Pretty much. I'll see where this goes in the future tho and maybe if it happens again, get some help from doctors and such.1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Sounds even more like your brother needs some professional help. Perhaps suggest to your parents that they visit your family doctor for an assessment and/or referral to a specialist?
I will suggest that, thank you.0 -
Wow.2
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snickerscharlie wrote: »So, crisis averted? Hmm.
Pretty much. I'll see where this goes in the future tho and maybe if it happens again, get some help from doctors and such.
Not a good course of action, because if this has taught your brother anything, it's that he needs to be more secretive in future. And if he thought this fast was a great idea, what's next?4 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wow.
Me when I woke up and went on my own thread.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »So, crisis averted? Hmm.
Pretty much. I'll see where this goes in the future tho and maybe if it happens again, get some help from doctors and such.
Not a good course of action, because if this has taught your brother anything, it's that he needs to be more secretive in future. And if he thought this fast was a great idea, what's next?
Well he will be getting help soon, but not from the topic of fasting. Something I can't really discuss.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »So, crisis averted? Hmm.
Pretty much. I'll see where this goes in the future tho and maybe if it happens again, get some help from doctors and such.
Thanks for being a good big sister. This isn't your responsibility but you are doing the right thing.3 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wow.
Me when I woke up and went on my own thread.
This whole thread period. Your parents need to step up and be parents. This shouldn't be your battle to fight.5 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wow.
Me when I woke up and went on my own thread.
To be fair to us, your original post was extremely incomplete.
I feel like someone asked me about headache remedies only to later disclose there was a brain tumor involved.1 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wow.
Me when I woke up and went on my own thread.
This whole thread period. Your parents need to step up and be parents. This shouldn't be your battle to fight.
Read my other posts, they have been stepping up, I just created this topic for extra insight and such.0 -
Hey Syth... Maybe it's a stretch but i'm going to gather both you and your brother are gamers (because of your picture of zelda on your profile photo) but if either of you do a lot of watching videos on YouTube, or he follows anyone in specific... Maybe he's doing it because he saw this guy's video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E484qiQXxzM
He could be taking this person "not eating for 28 days" as enough proof he could do it, too.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wow.
Me when I woke up and went on my own thread.
To be fair to us, your original post was extremely incomplete.
I feel like someone asked me about headache remedies only to later disclose there was a brain tumor involved.
I agree completely and I apologize. I should've been more clear on the matter.0 -
When I saw the video that that youtuber made, it made me so angry because i knew young followers would want to do the same. It's so unhealthy. He even said his trainer told him to do it. It's extremely frustrating.2
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Hey Syth... Maybe it's a stretch but i'm going to gather both you and your brother are gamers (because of your picture of zelda on your profile photo) but if either of you do a lot of watching videos on YouTube, or he follows anyone in specific... Maybe he's doing it because he saw this guy's video?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E484qiQXxzM
He could be taking this person "not eating for 28 days" as enough proof he could do it, too.
No I'm more of the health guru in the family and I lift/exercise for the most part, I do like my games from time to time though. I always try to plant that mindset onto my lil brother. And yes that's the video. I've been educating him since last night that the video he saw isn't entirely a good idea, he's understanding a bit more and some of you guys post did help too, he saw a lot of people who disagrees with the idea of fasting for 28 days and your concerns in fact really did kind of help him.2 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »So, crisis averted? Hmm.
Pretty much. I'll see where this goes in the future tho and maybe if it happens again, get some help from doctors and such.
Not a good course of action, because if this has taught your brother anything, it's that he needs to be more secretive in future. And if he thought this fast was a great idea, what's next?
Well he will be getting help soon, but not from the topic of fasting. Something I can't really discuss.
My own little brother is mentally ill, has a neurological condition, and has had substance abuse issues, so am sending you a big hug:
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No I'm more of the health guru in the family and I lift/exercise for the most part, I do like my games from time to time though. I always try to plant that mindset onto my lil brother. And yes that's the video. I've been educating him since last night that the video he saw isn't entirely a good idea, he's understanding a bit more and some of you guys post did help too, he saw a lot of people who disagrees with the idea of fasting for 28 days and your concerns in fact really did kind of help him.
Good on you for looking out for your family and being a good sister. Not much else I can really say that hasn't already been said. Keep up the good work.
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