Watermelon
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
Lol wut?
I mean the IIFYM folks will say any food is good. So im putting in a disclaimer that some people are selective about the foods they eat and so comparing watermelon to some candy treat - the watermelon would be worth it nutritionally.
Well, not quite. The IIFYM folks will say that you should choose foods based on your macros, so if I'm at the end of my day and need more fat, watermelon isn't as good of a choice as something with more fat. Like some candy treat, perhaps.1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
Where do people get the idea that flexible dieters eat nothing but cake? Wanting cake sometimes doesn't mean I don't eat watermelon... The two are so different that it isn't really an either/or choice. It sounds as silly as "it's way better to have an apple than chicken breast", yeah, both taste differently and serve different purposes. I'm not going to eat cake when I want something refreshing. I'm only going to eat cake when I want cake (which isn't often), and watermelon doesn't cut it in that case.
I particularly appreciate this thread today because I had watermelon for lunch and I'm going to have some of my husband's birthday cake later today. Watermelon AND cake in the same day, it can be done.
Here's the especially weird thing: Watermelon has some micronutrients that cake doesn't have and cake has some micronutrients that watermelon doesn't have. And they're both enjoyable, just in different ways. It's almost like it doesn't make sense to act like two different foods are somehow locked in a death match where one gets to stay in the diet and the other must be rejected forever . . .
You can't have both. They will duel to the death inside your body and take you with them. I will miss your insightful and inspiring posts. Even your awesome and likeable ones too. Be brave, janejellyroll.
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Thanks to this post, I had to cut up the little watermelon I had at home for desert. It's one of the small ones, but as I've never actually weighed a watermelon before (my first one since adopting a food scale), I thought for sure it would be several hundred calories, and I would just have to portion it out over a few days. The entire damn thing weighed in at just barely over 1000g, for around 300 calories!! That's half what I expected! The best part is that it'll still take me three days to work my way through it, so it barely makes a dent in my weekly goals
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I blended some frozen watermelon in my ninja with some fat free coconut greek yogurt. It was DELICIOUS!!!1
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I have no idea how much the piece of watermelon I just ate weighed, but I'm pretty certain if I had curled it I would have gained some muscle.
Thanks for the idea.3 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »Watermelon is actually pretty low in calories compared to other foods. I don't like watermelon, but I see no reason not to eat it unless it doesn't fill you up at all and/or will make you go over your daily calorie limit somehow. 100g does not look like 2 bites to me...
It looks like 4-5 large bites or 7-8 of my sized bites. I would think 200g (60 calories) could be a decent snack.
that's a really sad amount of water melon-
I eat like 1/2 a watermelon if I can.
It is a very small serving to me, but that serving is only 60 calories. I'd likely eat 2-3 of those.
I love to put watermelon in the blender with some red wine for a refreshing summer smoothie.
yeah- I eat watermelon until I'm about ready to burst- that's like- what I would eat when I first cut it open and couldn't wait till it was all cut up.
I legit pummel half a watermelon when I open it.
I like it fresh and still firm- not soggy- so the longer I wait to eat it- the less likely I am to finish it.
But I need to know what red wine do you use? that sounds interesting.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?1 -
can we get off the whole nutritious thing? FFS a box of cereal can get you your nutrition- it's fortified and all that.
Let's get back to the real question- what kind of wine do you blend with it to make a smoothie?14 -
can we get off the whole nutritious thing? FFS a box of cereal can get you your nutrition- it's fortified and all that.
Let's get back to the real question- what kind of wine do you blend with it to make a smoothie?
Seriously, I need to know the answer to this. I'm thinking a crisp white with a champagne float.3 -
well she specifically red wine and a smoothie.can we get off the whole nutritious thing? FFS a box of cereal can get you your nutrition- it's fortified and all that.
Let's get back to the real question- what kind of wine do you blend with it to make a smoothie?
Seriously, I need to know the answer to this. I'm thinking a crisp white with a champagne float.
I think a champagne float isn't going to be a red wine smoothie.
BUT- I'm game for either. you know- for science- so we can figure out what tastes best.
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can we get off the whole nutritious thing? FFS a box of cereal can get you your nutrition- it's fortified and all that.
Let's get back to the real question- what kind of wine do you blend with it to make a smoothie?
Never made it with watermelon but I would think something similar to what you'd make sangria with. Either a Spanish Rioja, or maybe a fruity red Zin. Also thinking a dry Rose might be good with the watermelon.1 -
can we get off the whole nutritious thing? FFS a box of cereal can get you your nutrition- it's fortified and all that.
Let's get back to the real question- what kind of wine do you blend with it to make a smoothie?
It's nice with crushed ice and vodka.
Serve inside the melon with straws if you're kind enough to share
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I don't know why I thought a bowl would be like 50 calories I mainly posted due to how off my mental guess was. I can't be the only person ever amazed at serving vs Calories.
You're not! When I first started using MFP I ate like half a watermelon in one day, assuming it wouldn't be that bad (because most people wouldn't!!) and was shocked at the calories!0 -
Hack it in half, grab a spoon..GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
Methinks you misunderstand what "IIFYM" really means.
For real. Watermelon fits my macros fo' sure.
I can eat it in embarrassing quantities, though.
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Verity1111 wrote: »Watermelon is actually pretty low in calories compared to other foods. I don't like watermelon, but I see no reason not to eat it unless it doesn't fill you up at all and/or will make you go over your daily calorie limit somehow. 100g does not look like 2 bites to me...
It looks like 4-5 large bites or 7-8 of my sized bites. I would think 200g (60 calories) could be a decent snack.
that's a really sad amount of water melon-
I eat like 1/2 a watermelon if I can.
Only 1/2?
Amateur.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?
Extra nutrition. If the consumption of watermelon supplied you with the amount of potassium you've aimed for, it doesn't mean the benefits of eating more watermelon are nonexistent. That's especially if someone's aiming for an increase with a certain nutrient rather than having a focus on calories.
Again, you've gotten your nutrition. Extra? Extra what?2 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »Watermelon is actually pretty low in calories compared to other foods. I don't like watermelon, but I see no reason not to eat it unless it doesn't fill you up at all and/or will make you go over your daily calorie limit somehow. 100g does not look like 2 bites to me...
It looks like 4-5 large bites or 7-8 of my sized bites. I would think 200g (60 calories) could be a decent snack.
that's a really sad amount of water melon-
I eat like 1/2 a watermelon if I can.
Only 1/2?
Amateur.
half at a time.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »Watermelon is actually pretty low in calories compared to other foods. I don't like watermelon, but I see no reason not to eat it unless it doesn't fill you up at all and/or will make you go over your daily calorie limit somehow. 100g does not look like 2 bites to me...
It looks like 4-5 large bites or 7-8 of my sized bites. I would think 200g (60 calories) could be a decent snack.
that's a really sad amount of water melon-
I eat like 1/2 a watermelon if I can.
Only 1/2?
Amateur.
Given that most of our watermelons are around 5-8 kilos, I would be very impressed with myself if I could eat a whole one.0 -
I get little ones like the one shown below in my CSA box. They are similar-sized to other melons. I still never can eat a whole one, though. They take me a few days.
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Guess I know what else I'll be picking up at the grocery today. Watermelon for after my runs sounds amazing.
Love watermelon. It's pretty much the only thing that I have been known to eat until my stomach hurts. Fortunately, the water moves through quickly and that feeling doesn't last long.1 -
WinoGelato wrote: »can we get off the whole nutritious thing? FFS a box of cereal can get you your nutrition- it's fortified and all that.
Let's get back to the real question- what kind of wine do you blend with it to make a smoothie?
Never made it with watermelon but I would think something similar to what you'd make sangria with. Either a Spanish Rioja, or maybe a fruity red Zin. Also thinking a dry Rose might be good with the watermelon.
I was thinking a Beaujolais.0 -
Also, it does not have a lot of sugar. If it did, it would have a lot of calories.Wynterbourne wrote: »raven56706 wrote: »but it also has alot of sugar....
though i love blending my protein powder and watermelon. makes a protein shake real delicious
Speaking as someone who has zero medical issues related to the consumption of sugar, I have to ask, "So what that it contains sugar? It's a fruit, so if course it does. What's the problem with that?"0 -
Also, it does not have a lot of sugar. If it did, it would have a lot of calories.Wynterbourne wrote: »raven56706 wrote: »but it also has alot of sugar....
though i love blending my protein powder and watermelon. makes a protein shake real delicious
Speaking as someone who has zero medical issues related to the consumption of sugar, I have to ask, "So what that it contains sugar? It's a fruit, so if course it does. What's the problem with that?"
Not necessarily.
Cookie in my recipe box=200 calories, 12 g sugar.
Medium apple=95 calories, 19 g sugar.
Does the cookie have a lot of sugar? If so, so does the apple (more!), but it's not particularly high calorie.
Watermelon is LOWER calorie than the apple, gram for gram (people can eat large amounts of watermelon, because so much of its weight is water, I suspect), but like the apple, most of its calories are from sugar (the apple has more fiber).
Point is that there's nothing inherently wrong with sugar.1 -
This isn't correct. Even if someone has eaten the minimum recommended servings of fruits and vegetables, there's still a benefit to eating more.Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/23/five-day-10-portions-fruit-veg-cut-early-death
*I assume there's some point when fruits and vegetables would start crowding out other foods someone needs more, like proteins. But if someone is considering whether to eat cake or watermelon, we're not at that point yet.
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Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?
Extra nutrition. If the consumption of watermelon supplied you with the amount of potassium you've aimed for, it doesn't mean the benefits of eating more watermelon are nonexistent. That's especially if someone's aiming for an increase with a certain nutrient rather than having a focus on calories.
Again, you've gotten your nutrition. Extra? Extra what?
Extra what? Extra nutrition. Who said you needed to stop at x amount of grams?
What is the benefit of consuming more of a nutrient that your body can use? Especially if it is water-soluble and will just be eliminated?
It's not like putting money in the bank where it collects interest.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?
Extra nutrition. If the consumption of watermelon supplied you with the amount of potassium you've aimed for, it doesn't mean the benefits of eating more watermelon are nonexistent. That's especially if someone's aiming for an increase with a certain nutrient rather than having a focus on calories.
Again, you've gotten your nutrition. Extra? Extra what?
Extra what? Extra nutrition. Who said you needed to stop at x amount of grams?
What is the benefit of consuming more of a nutrient that your body can use? Especially if it is water-soluble and will just be eliminated?
It's not like putting money in the bank where it collects interest.
Did you see the article I linked to? There is a benefit to eating more fruits and vegetables. There's not some arbitrary line, after which the benefits dry up.
ETA: Here's a link to the article in the Journal of Epidemiology that the Guardian article is summarizing.
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/3039477/Fruit-and-vegetable-intake-and-the-risk-of?searchresult=10 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?
Extra nutrition. If the consumption of watermelon supplied you with the amount of potassium you've aimed for, it doesn't mean the benefits of eating more watermelon are nonexistent. That's especially if someone's aiming for an increase with a certain nutrient rather than having a focus on calories.
Again, you've gotten your nutrition. Extra? Extra what?
Extra what? Extra nutrition. Who said you needed to stop at x amount of grams?
And what's the cut off point? If 10 servings is the recommendation, does 20 servings make me 2x as healthy?
I love fruit. I eat it all the time. That said, a foods worth is really only measurable within the context of the overall diet.4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?
Extra nutrition. If the consumption of watermelon supplied you with the amount of potassium you've aimed for, it doesn't mean the benefits of eating more watermelon are nonexistent. That's especially if someone's aiming for an increase with a certain nutrient rather than having a focus on calories.
Again, you've gotten your nutrition. Extra? Extra what?
Extra what? Extra nutrition. Who said you needed to stop at x amount of grams?
And what's the cut off point? If 10 servings is the recommendation, does 20 servings make me 2x as healthy?
I love fruit. I eat it all the time. That said, a foods worth is really only measurable within the context of the overall diet.
There is no cut off point, really. My point was that eating more of a food (especially if it's high in a certain nutrient you're aiming for) can provide benefit. Just because you've reached, for example, the minimum recommended amount of iron/potassium/vitamins/etc. does not mean that suddenly all possible advantages of consuming the food high in that nutrient have dissipated.
The point is/was, just because a food has more nutrients then say another food, does not make it automatically better. Context of the diet as a whole is what has to be examined...2 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?
Extra nutrition. If the consumption of watermelon supplied you with the amount of potassium you've aimed for, it doesn't mean the benefits of eating more watermelon are nonexistent. That's especially if someone's aiming for an increase with a certain nutrient rather than having a focus on calories.
Again, you've gotten your nutrition. Extra? Extra what?
Extra what? Extra nutrition. Who said you needed to stop at x amount of grams?
And what's the cut off point? If 10 servings is the recommendation, does 20 servings make me 2x as healthy?
I love fruit. I eat it all the time. That said, a foods worth is really only measurable within the context of the overall diet.
There is no cut off point, really. My point was that eating more of a food (especially if it's high in a certain nutrient you're aiming for) can provide benefit. Just because you've reached, for example, the minimum recommended amount of iron/potassium/vitamins/etc. does not mean that suddenly all possible advantages of consuming the food high in that nutrient have dissipated.
The point is/was, just because a food has more nutrients then say another food, does not make it automatically better. Context of the diet as a whole is what has to be examined...
Sure, I agree on both of those points. Watermelon and cake (depends on the cake, though) are both completely different foods with differing components, nutrients, and macros.
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Christine_72 wrote: »I have around 400g of watermelon, plus the same amount of cantaloupe every single day. A huge bowl for under 300 calories
For the benefits you get from some food, its worth it. For me, it is way better to have a bowl of watermelon than a piece of cake. I don't mean all you IIFYM folks, but for people who want to choose more nutritious food vs a treat.
If you've gotten you nutrition for the day and can have the piece of cake without going into a calorie surplus, what's the problem? You don't get any extra credit for more "nutritious" watermelon...
I'd call it a matter of preference, belief, and opinion. For the nutritional benefit, watermelon contains vitamins A, B6, and C. It's also high in antioxidants, amino acids, lycopene, and potassium.
The "extra credit" probably differs from individual to individual. Some people would rather have fruit than cake, others would rather have cake than fruit.
Agreed it comes down to preference. That said, my comment was in response to the idea that watermelon was preferable because it was more nutritious. So again, I stand by my comment. If you've gotten your nutrition for the day, what's the benefit to more watermelon?
Extra nutrition. If the consumption of watermelon supplied you with the amount of potassium you've aimed for, it doesn't mean the benefits of eating more watermelon are nonexistent. That's especially if someone's aiming for an increase with a certain nutrient rather than having a focus on calories.
Again, you've gotten your nutrition. Extra? Extra what?
Extra what? Extra nutrition. Who said you needed to stop at x amount of grams?
And what's the cut off point? If 10 servings is the recommendation, does 20 servings make me 2x as healthy?
I love fruit. I eat it all the time. That said, a foods worth is really only measurable within the context of the overall diet.
There is no cut off point, really. My point was that eating more of a food (especially if it's high in a certain nutrient you're aiming for) can provide benefit.
I don't think anyone was really disagreeing with this, but just with the idea that it's ALWAYS better to choose watermelon over cake, and that anyone concerned with nutrients would, whereas if you choose cake you are not interested in nutrition.Just because you've reached, for example, the minimum recommended amount of iron/potassium/vitamins/etc. does not mean that suddenly all possible advantages of consuming the food high in that nutrient have dissipated.
Sure, but at a certain point it would. If I've eaten 800 calories all day, 600 from watermelon, watermelon is a really poor choice for dinner. I'd need something else. (Not saying that something would be cake, but that the fact that watermelon has nutrients doesn't determine whether it is the ideal choice at a particular time and for a particular person.)0
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