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MohamedAboelghar
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What's everyone's take on no carb diets? I need to drop weight QUICKLY and also will it hurt my performance in the weight room. I was thinking if I double up on protein I should be good. Am I wrong? Any suggestions? Thanks
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A calorie deficit is all you need to lose weight. If low (not no) carb is how you achieve the deficit, then so be it.2
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1) You don't drop fat any quicker on a low carb diet than you do on any other diet with equivalent calories. You initially lose a lot of water weight, some of which is the glycogen in your muscles - which leads to #2.....
2) Yes, it will probably hurt your performance in the weight room.
3) If you double up on protein, you're defeating the ostensible purpose of a ketogenic diet, because protein is just as insulogenic as carbs are.12 -
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painful and unnecessary3
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I like carbs...3
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No carb, no.
Low carb (which is a wide range), if you are interested, check it out. But if your interest is just that you think it's needed for weight loss, no, it's not.
Increasing (not doubling) protein can be a good idea if cutting carbs.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »I like carbs...
+1. I also like not being glycogen depleted when trying to lift weights. Keto seems to work best for either sedentary people or endurance athletes, where glycogen isn't much of an issue for either of them.3 -
My first question is: How much do you weigh now?
My second question is: What's your idea of 'lose weight quickly'?
My third question is: Are you willing to make permanent changes to your life which lead to the achievement of and then maintenance of your goal?
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1) You don't drop fat any quicker on a low carb diet than you do on any other diet with equivalent calories. You initially lose a lot of water weight, some of which is the glycogen in your muscles - which leads to #2.....
2) Yes, it will probably hurt your performance in the weight room.
3) If you double up on protein, you're defeating the ostensible purpose of a ketogenic diet, because protein is just as insulogenic as carbs are.
To add to this... I wouldn't double up on protein, unless your base levels are really low. Protein is a very poor source of energy, which is why you hear so many body builders complaining about energy levels.
If you only need to drop some water weight, ketogenic is going to be a good option short term. But if you are trying to look at fat loss, don't bother with that stuff, and start looking into Lyle McDonald's work... something we can't really discuss on this forum.
Who's even hating. You don't lose fat at a fast rate on low carb or ketogenic. If you any diet is going to increase fat loss, in free living conditions or in other studies, it's high protein; fats and carbs have almost no impact on it.8 -
What's everyone's take on no carb diets? - Awful, pointless, inferior nutrition, inferior exercise performance, dreadfully restrictive.
I need to drop weight QUICKLY - Why? Define need? How much much weight? How quickly?
and also will it hurt my performance in the weight room. - Yes. Counter-productive to an effective workout and recovery.
I was thinking if I double up on protein I should be good. Am I wrong? - Yes
Any suggestions? - Think again, learn about nutrition. Reassess this "need" to lose weight quickly.
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MohamedAboelghar wrote: »What's everyone's take on no carb diets?
Totally unnecessary and won't increase fat loss.
I need to drop weight QUICKLY
You won't lose fat any faster.
and also will it hurt my performance in the weight room.
Short answer, yes
I was thinking if I double up on protein I should be good.
I don't know how much you are getting now but plenty of protein should always be a priority on a cut.
Am I wrong? Any suggestions? Thanks
Just focus on balanced, nutritious, and an appropriate calorie deficit. Too much of a deficit will result in losing more muscle mass.
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I don't understand the avoidance of carbs at all. A balanced and nutritious blend of the food groups within your calorie goal is all you need to lose weight. It doesn't make it easier...but it actually IS quite simple.
You're already exercising and cutting energy sources will only harm the effectiveness of your workouts. Everyone else pretty much said it all.5 -
Its not about "hating". It's about the stupidity of needlessly cutting something that won't improve your weight goals nor health and makes effective, long term fitness and healthy eating more difficult.
Linking to someone called "The Diet Doctor" doesn't help your case, either.8 -
I eat reduced carb. It has improved my workouts because refined carbs leave me feeling bloated and upset my digestion. I try to stick with getting my carbs through complex carbohydrates.
It hasn't altered my weight loss rate eating this way but since I feel better it has helped me stick to my goals and stay motivated.1 -
Who's even hating. You don't lose fat at a fast rate on low carb or ketogenic. If you any diet is going to increase fat loss, in free living conditions or in other studies, it's high protein; fats and carbs have almost no impact on it.
To wit: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22935440/0 -
1) You don't drop fat any quicker on a low carb diet than you do on any other diet with equivalent calories. You initially lose a lot of water weight, some of which is the glycogen in your muscles - which leads to #2.....
2) Yes, it will probably hurt your performance in the weight room.
3) If you double up on protein, you're defeating the ostensible purpose of a ketogenic diet, because protein is just as insulogenic as carbs are.
To add to this... I wouldn't double up on protein, unless your base levels are really low. Protein is a very poor source of energy, which is why you hear so many body builders complaining about energy levels.
If you only need to drop some water weight, ketogenic is going to be a good option short term. But if you are trying to look at fat loss, don't bother with that stuff, and start looking into Lyle McDonald's work... something we can't really discuss on this forum.
Who's even hating. You don't lose fat at a fast rate on low carb or ketogenic. If you any diet is going to increase fat loss, in free living conditions or in other studies, it's high protein; fats and carbs have almost no impact on it.
You are mistaken. Maybe YOU don't lose it at a fast rate. I've averaged over 10 pounds a month for 6 months. That's pretty fast IMHO. How would you really know anyway? Have your tried it? Oh, you read about it. Or you tried a different method successfully. I see. I would bet most of the people who are anti-lchf never did it. They tried it for a week. Or read it was bad someplace. You are so opinionated about this. If you are going to be an expert at least be open to other solutions and get your head out of the sand.
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No carb means cutting out all fruits and vegetables, which makes it much harder to get the micronutrients you need. There are low carb fruits and veggies, but not carb-free.6
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »
Its not about "hating". It's about the stupidity of needlessly cutting something that won't improve your weight goals nor health and makes effective, long term fitness and healthy eating more difficult.
Linking to someone called "The Diet Doctor" doesn't help your case, either.
Try reading the site and check the guy out before knocking it.1
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