Dairy???
xvhailey
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Half the information I get on dairy says its healthy to make part of your diet the other half says cut dairy out. Thoughts?
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Dairy can have a lot of fat, which can make it hard to stay within your calories and macros, so choose wisely based on your nutritional goals.0
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Use half'n'half? Sorry, I just had to. Unless you're allergic or hate the taste or are one of the "milk is just for baby cows" people, drink milk.5
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If your body tolerates it and it fits within your calorie goals, go for it. As I've gotten older, my body has decided to not tolerate it, and I miss it horribly.4
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There is current debate about dairy fats. So far, it seems like the saturated fats from dairy products are midway between saturated fats from red meat (worst) and saturated fats from plants (best). In any event, current scientific findings indicate we should limit but not wholly eliminate
consumption of saturated fats in our overall diet.
That being said, dairy products are neither angel nor devil. Include them or not in your diet depending on your calorie & macro numbers, your own ability to digest them, and your own druthers.3 -
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I've always been a milk /dairy person - love the stuff, but I've gradually weaned myself from dairy and over to almond milk (if I need any milk at all) which I use sparingly. Dairy bloats me - some people can tolerate it, and I wish I could but I can't. I was stuck with my weight for a couple of weeks and I couldn't figure out what the deal was, then I stopped eating the yogurt I was eating every morning - quite by accident - and the weight started falling off again. I'm not lactose intolerant or anything like that, but I have found that when I have dairy it affects my sinuses, my eyes run and I bloat. So, some "food" for thought - haha. I agree with @HeidiCooksSupper just see how you do with dairy if you like it and your own ability to digest them properly.3
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Not a milk drinker but I eat yogurt and cheese.
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Dairy makes me look and feel great, plus it helps me more easily hit my protein goals. So it's a yay for me.8
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In the context of a balanced and varied diet, it's fine...4
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Dozens to hundreds of generations of my Northern European ancestors did well enough eating dairy that they lived long enough to pass genes down to me, and the recent ones i know about lived to be pretty old, and stayed pretty healthy along the way.
Since I personally also tolerate it well,and enjoy it, I think it's just fine.8 -
Ice cream, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, grilled halloumi, chocolate!
You can prise dairy from my cold dead hand before I'd stop eating it.5 -
purplepadres wrote: »If your body tolerates it and it fits within your calorie goals, go for it. As I've gotten older, my body has decided to not tolerate it, and I miss it horribly.
So would we say this is more of a personal preference, like say a lactose intolerant person would have more of a reason to sway away from dairy? But all the talked about benefits are good for someone trying to eat healthy and become fit? I stay on a high protein low(ish) carb diet, so would you think I would benefit well from choosing dairy like yogurt for breakfast, or switch to something non dairy but still provides proteins?0 -
Greek yogurt and skim milk are a staple of my daily diet. And I would probably die if I couldn't enjoy some cheese and a pint of Halo Top ice cream every so often. I've heard dairy is "terrible" but when eaten in moderation, like most things, I find it hard to believe that it's detrimental to any diet3
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purplepadres wrote: »If your body tolerates it and it fits within your calorie goals, go for it. As I've gotten older, my body has decided to not tolerate it, and I miss it horribly.
So would we say this is more of a personal preference, like say a lactose intolerant person would have more of a reason to sway away from dairy? But all the talked about benefits are good for someone trying to eat healthy and become fit? I stay on a high protein low(ish) carb diet, so would you think I would benefit well from choosing dairy like yogurt for breakfast, or switch to something non dairy but still provides proteins?
Try it out and see how you feel. Most of my dairy is lower fat cottage cheese and Greek yogurt, whey protein, some milk. But I also have cheese, butter and cream in moderation. I consider myself pretty healthy and fit.1 -
Just FYI, almond milk and eggs aren't dairy. Almond milk is basically a carb (nut juice) and eggs are a protein that is often sold in the dairy case but actually has nothing to do with dairy.16 -
purplepadres wrote: »If your body tolerates it and it fits within your calorie goals, go for it. As I've gotten older, my body has decided to not tolerate it, and I miss it horribly.
So would we say this is more of a personal preference, like say a lactose intolerant person would have more of a reason to sway away from dairy? But all the talked about benefits are good for someone trying to eat healthy and become fit? I stay on a high protein low(ish) carb diet, so would you think I would benefit well from choosing dairy like yogurt for breakfast, or switch to something non dairy but still provides proteins?
I'd say it's a matter of experimentation and preference. Find what works best for you. I can't eat dairy products at all, as it causes severe digestive problems. If I could, I'd still work it into my macros.0 -
purplepadres wrote: »If your body tolerates it and it fits within your calorie goals, go for it. As I've gotten older, my body has decided to not tolerate it, and I miss it horribly.
So would we say this is more of a personal preference, like say a lactose intolerant person would have more of a reason to sway away from dairy? But all the talked about benefits are good for someone trying to eat healthy and become fit? I stay on a high protein low(ish) carb diet, so would you think I would benefit well from choosing dairy like yogurt for breakfast, or switch to something non dairy but still provides proteins?
Yes, I would think a truly lactose intolerant person would want to avoid dairy, just as a person with celiac would want to avoid gluten, and someone with nut allergies would avoid nuts. Why would someone eat something that makes them feel bad or sick?
Beyond that, it's preference: Everyone else can eat any of those things, if they find them tasty, nutritious, and satiating, as long as they don't eat so much of them that it either drives out other needed nutrition, or puts them over their calorie goal.2 -
If you're not lactose intolerant then why would you cut dairy out? Just watch your portions and keep the milk fat percentage to 0 or as low as you can.0
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It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.3
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Enjoy unless you are allergic or don't like the taste.1
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It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products.
Makes sense to me (and my ancestors who passed on the genes that make it easy to digest for me, just like AnnPT says above).The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff.
No, it's because (for the most part) at least some of their ancestors come from areas of the world where there was no need or custom to consume it regularly, so fewer people developed the ability to do so. IMO, that's unfortunate for them, but says nothing about what people in general are "supposed to" be doing.
It seems that a good number of people find it biologically easy to consume whatever food is available even to the point of becoming overweight or obese. Does that mean we are "supposed to" do that and it makes no sense to use our minds to figure out how to stay slim? Of course not!The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Also, it tastes good.8 -
I like all the dairy products! This morning I had kefir and yogurt, this evening I'll have cheese. Life is good.1
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Aphids are milked by ants. The aphids are herded to a food source and tended to and protected by the ants.
Hindus revere their cattle, are vegetarian, but will also consume a wide variety of dairy products.3 -
NateandDannysmom wrote: »If you're not lactose intolerant then why would you cut dairy out? Just watch your portions and keep the milk fat percentage to 0 or as low as you can.
I also don't think it's necessary to eliminate dairy unless lactose intolerant, but nothing wrong with dairy fat (good quality butter is awesome!)2 -
I love dairy! It is the one food group i could/would not give up!1
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Just FYI, almond milk and eggs aren't dairy. Almond milk is basically a carb (nut juice) and eggs are a protein that is often sold in the dairy case but actually has nothing to do with dairy.
Wow I never thought twice about it, I just knew that I get it from the dairy section in every store. Eggs come from a non-milk producing animal, how could I miss that lol.3 -
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It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Are we not supposed to eat nuts? Cuz I know a whole lot more people with nut allergies than I do with lactose intolerance.
People who are lactose intolerant are the exception...not the other way around.8
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