How to zig zag cals properly/caloric cycling properly

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  • ymcahutch
    ymcahutch Posts: 8
    Is the max deficit of 800 a straight figure or a percentage?

    My current maintenance is 1550; I think I would have a really hard time eating just 750 and not sure how safe that would be. I do exercise 3-4 days/week and that would add another 300-400, but there are some days where a work-out is just not very feasible. Any suggestions?
    If your maintenance is 1550 the lowest you should go is 1200, for women whom are shorter than 5ft tall you can push it to 1100 but anything less and you are really pushing it. It works off a percentage and that gets lower as you approach your goal weight. For women no less than 1200 as a general rule and for men no less than 1500 as a general rule. My maintenance is 2440 right now so I have more cals to play with. 800 works for me as I am 11.6 pounds shy of my goal. But I am also active so I have more to play with. The more weight the greater the wiggle room, the lighter the less wiggle room.
    Do you eat your exercise calories? My calory level is set at 1210 now and I'm not seeing any change after 2 months. I do eat my exercise calories, maybe I shouldn't?
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  • titletown
    titletown Posts: 377 Member
    OK, I was stuck in a 6 week plateau or so, tried several different approaches with no success, so thought what the heck, I'll try this.

    Well, after 8 days doing 1310, 1310, 2110...

    I lost over 4 lbs!!

    And, I'm only a few lbs from my ultimate goal, which makes this all the more impressive.

    Thanks for the info!!!

    Here is another great article on this approach, I actually ate the foods recommended in this first chart too:

    http://www.rippednaturally.com/zig-zag-diet.html
  • MayMaydoesntrun
    MayMaydoesntrun Posts: 805 Member
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  • kristinkt
    kristinkt Posts: 921 Member
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  • dawnmichelea
    dawnmichelea Posts: 112 Member
    Might try this! Is there a way to easily get the food diary to change, or is it a manual change every day type thing?

    I just started doing this yesterday, and I'm having to change my calorie goals daily. It only takes a second, but it's annoying when you go to look at other days and it says you're under or over or whatever based upon your current day's goals, even though you met your goal that particular day. I'm keeping notes in the food log about what that day's goal was so that I can go back and look.
  • dawnmichelea
    dawnmichelea Posts: 112 Member
    I agree!!!! I hate it when I change my goals for the day....and it messed up all of my history! I have a piece of paper by the computer, and i keep track on there! Maybe MFP could fix this!!!
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I agree!!!! I hate it when I change my goals for the day....and it messed up all of my history! I have a piece of paper by the computer, and i keep track on there! Maybe MFP could fix this!!!

    Why use a piece of paper? There's a note section right on your diary.
  • titletown
    titletown Posts: 377 Member
    I forgot to mention in my previous post, but I did eat all my exercise calories back for the 8 days I've been doing this.
  • Gigi_licious
    Gigi_licious Posts: 1,185 Member
    good info
  • brendalyne
    brendalyne Posts: 497
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  • titletown
    titletown Posts: 377 Member
    I have mine set at a 500 a day calorie deficit by default.

    I eat all but 300 calories 2 days in a row, then go over by 500 on the third, rinse and repeat. I eat all exercise cals aside from that.

    Working wonders for me at least.
  • cindy859
    cindy859 Posts: 99 Member
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  • ancho84
    ancho84 Posts: 40 Member
    Bumpity bump
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    An odd thing I noticed, after reading Eat, Stop, Eat.

    I've been zig zagging my calories, using the 3 day method originally outlined. The thing is, I've noticed that with the small amounts of calories I'm consuming on my low days...I occasionally don't eat much, or at all until dinner. When I do this...I'm going 24hrs without food...which qualifies as fasting. I started two weeks ago when I got sick (didn't eat for 2 days)...then I ate a lot more on the third.

    I'm betting this was the cause of my 8lbs worth of loss over those two weeks, as well as breaking my 6 week plateau. I am now going to more purposefully zig zag and make sure I don't eat for at least two 24hr intervals a week (this includes sleep time...so it's not as bad as it seems). I'm thinking the losses will continue to come, particularly since I'm back on track with exercising, and after the two weeks off, my workouts are more intense than ever.

    Cris
  • susanb_16
    susanb_16 Posts: 131 Member
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  • AI1108
    AI1108 Posts: 488 Member
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  • Susanpv
    Susanpv Posts: 37 Member
    save....bump
  • amsparky
    amsparky Posts: 825 Member
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  • amomatt
    amomatt Posts: 41
    sorry.am being a bit dense

    My cals are at 1320 (deficit of 500) so on days 1 and 2 I should stick to that...should I be "eating back" my exercise cals?

    And then how much to go up to on Day 3?
  • amomatt
    amomatt Posts: 41
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  • martielou
    martielou Posts: 50 Member
    Thanks for this! Very clear & helpful! I'm plateauing with 9lbs or so to go! This is great!
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    I do 1 increased calorie day per week on a Saturday. That's my treat/cheat day and also kicks my metabolism into shape for the following week. I do find that I see a spike in weight on Sunday/Monday but the drop over the week after stays steady where if I don't have the treat day my loss progress gets a bit sluggish.

    I can see this working on a 1 day in 3 schedule though. The theory seems solid.
  • mjp202
    mjp202 Posts: 50 Member
    Bump. I've been thinking of trying this approach.
  • getsveltEagain
    getsveltEagain Posts: 1,063 Member
    bump to read over tonight!
  • jen_0_0
    jen_0_0 Posts: 5 Member
    Bump :-)
  • jessikas5
    jessikas5 Posts: 28 Member
    Bump! Have to try this!
  • AmandaR910
    AmandaR910 Posts: 991
    Definitely trying this. Great post.
  • shawny9499
    shawny9499 Posts: 6 Member
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  • Rexrabbit
    Rexrabbit Posts: 3
    saving
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