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It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.3
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Enjoy unless you are allergic or don't like the taste.1
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It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products.
Makes sense to me (and my ancestors who passed on the genes that make it easy to digest for me, just like AnnPT says above).The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff.
No, it's because (for the most part) at least some of their ancestors come from areas of the world where there was no need or custom to consume it regularly, so fewer people developed the ability to do so. IMO, that's unfortunate for them, but says nothing about what people in general are "supposed to" be doing.
It seems that a good number of people find it biologically easy to consume whatever food is available even to the point of becoming overweight or obese. Does that mean we are "supposed to" do that and it makes no sense to use our minds to figure out how to stay slim? Of course not!The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Also, it tastes good.8 -
I like all the dairy products! This morning I had kefir and yogurt, this evening I'll have cheese. Life is good.1
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Aphids are milked by ants. The aphids are herded to a food source and tended to and protected by the ants.
Hindus revere their cattle, are vegetarian, but will also consume a wide variety of dairy products.3 -
NateandDannysmom wrote: »If you're not lactose intolerant then why would you cut dairy out? Just watch your portions and keep the milk fat percentage to 0 or as low as you can.
I also don't think it's necessary to eliminate dairy unless lactose intolerant, but nothing wrong with dairy fat (good quality butter is awesome!)2 -
I love dairy! It is the one food group i could/would not give up!1
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Just FYI, almond milk and eggs aren't dairy. Almond milk is basically a carb (nut juice) and eggs are a protein that is often sold in the dairy case but actually has nothing to do with dairy.
Wow I never thought twice about it, I just knew that I get it from the dairy section in every store. Eggs come from a non-milk producing animal, how could I miss that lol.3 -
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It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Are we not supposed to eat nuts? Cuz I know a whole lot more people with nut allergies than I do with lactose intolerance.
People who are lactose intolerant are the exception...not the other way around.8 -
It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Evolution has taught us to be adaptable and thrive on a variety of foods.
Milk is no different than any other food that we learned to cultivate and thrive on.7 -
I love all dairy products. Big part of my everyday diet. If you like it, make it work in your calories, and don't have an allergy, then go for it. If you don't like them, don't consume them.0
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Nonfat milk, nonfat yogurt, and nonfat cottage cheese are a regular part of my menu. I also use other kinds of cheese in small amounts for flavoring. They taste good to me and are a pretty good source of protein. So overall I'd say they're helpful for me.
Obviously if you're allergic to dairy or can't tolerate it, don't eat or drink it. I think people who are opposed to anyone drinking milk basically feel that way for philosophical or moral reasons, and that often influences the food they recommend.1 -
It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
But it makes sense to eat the flesh from another animal?? I find it odd that someone would oppose dairy while endorsing meat of all things.
Dairy is delicious. I could cut just about anything from my diet and never think about it again. But dairy? No way. Cheese and milk are pretty much the only things that make eating worthwhile!9 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Are we not supposed to eat nuts? Cuz I know a whole lot more people with nut allergies than I do with lactose intolerance.
People who are lactose intolerant are the exception...not the other way around.
According to the NIH,
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance#statisticsApproximately 65 percent of the human population has a reduced ability to digest lactose after infancy.
Not that I think that's any reason for those with the genetic good fortune to continue producing lactase as adults not to eat it.0 -
It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Sorry have to call you out on that. Supposed is not objective term. As mentioned earlier in the thread. Northern Europeans specifically (others too) have the genes to digest lactose in a great way. They produce an enzyme called lactase that does the trick. Lactose intolerant people will produce either less of it (and can digest fermetend dairy foods) or not and cannot eat diary.
If you state not supposed to you basically say that the body is wrong for producing an enzyme that allows us to eat something that is a great food source and has helped many a population to survive.
Plus we are not just talking cows dairy Around the world also milk and milk products are produced from goat, sheet, buffalo, yak, camel and horse milk (lama I think as well but not sure)
As a comment on your list of protein
If you then say but but some people can't because they are intolerant then my answer would be - you are not suppoed to heat grains then either because there are celiacs that are in fact gluten intolerant. Same for nuts because there are people with allergies. So not suppoed to is complete and utter nonsense! Specifically as you so totally recommend foods that are also limited for some people
For just about every foodstuff there will be people that have either problems digesting and or intolerances
OP: if you feel you want to eat and can handle is try it. Like any food there is a part can you and a part do you like it. Specifically with cheeses and yogurt there is so much to choose from that it is a feast to try if that is what you like.
I could not live without diary. My preferences are cheese and yoghurt. I have to limit cheese intake mainly because the cheeses I love best (blue soft) are also high calorie. But it is one of my go to treats5 -
We are mammals - does it really make sense that milk and milk products are bad for us?6
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Are we not supposed to eat nuts? Cuz I know a whole lot more people with nut allergies than I do with lactose intolerance.
People who are lactose intolerant are the exception...not the other way around.
According to the NIH,
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance#statisticsApproximately 65 percent of the human population has a reduced ability to digest lactose after infancy.
Not that I think that's any reason for those with the genetic good fortune to continue producing lactase as adults not to eat it.
Most of whom are living in Asia and Africa. Europe, North America and Australia (Which I'd assume make up most of MFP), has up to 90% and more who are not intolerant.4 -
stevencloser wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »It makes zero sense to consume another animals milk, and animal milk based products. The reason that so many people are "lactose intolerant" is because we're not supposed to be eating that stuff. The only beneficial part of dairy is the high protein content and you can get that from meat, nuts, beans, seeds and even leafy greens.
Are we not supposed to eat nuts? Cuz I know a whole lot more people with nut allergies than I do with lactose intolerance.
People who are lactose intolerant are the exception...not the other way around.
According to the NIH,
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance#statisticsApproximately 65 percent of the human population has a reduced ability to digest lactose after infancy.
Not that I think that's any reason for those with the genetic good fortune to continue producing lactase as adults not to eat it.
Most of whom are living in Asia and Africa. Europe, North America and Australia (Which I'd assume make up most of MFP), has up to 90% and more who are not intolerant.
No kidding. It says right on the linked page "The prevalence of lactose intolerance is lowest in populations with a long history of dependence on unfermented milk products as an important food source. For example, only about 5 percent of people of Northern European descent are lactose intolerant."1 -
Nonfat milk is an efficient way to meet calcium requirements and a nice amount of protein and potassium. I don't want to give it up!1
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