No Calorie Sodas and Weight
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YearOfTheDragonLeo wrote: »because chemicals are bad, and diet soda is fake sugar/chemicals???
I was drinking cherry coke zero for 2 years before I figured out the "food poisoning" symptoms were really that and not the food.
LOL...you are kidding right?? I've heard that H20 chemical is a real killer !!6 -
Diet Sodas IMO are like crack for your brain.
"Diet sodas are designed to trick the brain into thinking it’s getting an extra dose of glucose (the brain’s fuel), but eventually the trick is on us because the brain adapts to not receiving the added glucose by overcompensating in other ways (leading to a variety of effects still under investigation).
Diet sodas could imbalance the bacterial jungle in our guts—the microbiome—causing unpredictable results. Since there’s a bacterial superhighway from gut to brain, which we know interacts with key neurotransmitters, this theory may eventually tell us more of a much bigger brain story.
Different artificial sweeteners in diet drinks have different effects, and there’s debate about which causes what. This study didn’t narrow down the exact types of artificial sweeteners that were consumed, so it’s an open question how one may have affected the brain differently than another."
Ref: https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2017/04/27/why-is-diet-soda-so-bad-for-your-brain/#1705e3305fad32 -
Diet Sodas IMO are like crack for your brain.
"Diet sodas are designed to trick the brain into thinking it’s getting an extra dose of glucose (the brain’s fuel), but eventually the trick is on us because the brain adapts to not receiving the added glucose by overcompensating in other ways (leading to a variety of effects still under investigation).
Diet sodas could imbalance the bacterial jungle in our guts—the microbiome—causing unpredictable results. Since there’s a bacterial superhighway from gut to brain, which we know interacts with key neurotransmitters, this theory may eventually tell us more of a much bigger brain story.
Different artificial sweeteners in diet drinks have different effects, and there’s debate about which causes what. This study didn’t narrow down the exact types of artificial sweeteners that were consumed, so it’s an open question how one may have affected the brain differently than another."
Ref: https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2017/04/27/why-is-diet-soda-so-bad-for-your-brain/#1705e3305fad
You cut out a key sentence right before those paragraphs of predicted calamity: "So far nobody knows for sure, although a grab bag of theories are out there, such as: ..."
None of those have been established, those are people just spitballing. The truest line: "We can’t draw solid conclusions from this study."19 -
Diet soda has had no effect on my weight. I rarely drink it, though. It bloats me up a pant size temporarily - all that carbonation, I guess. Maybe I just need to be burped like a baby when I drink it...?3
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Diet Sodas IMO are like crack for your brain.
"Diet sodas are designed to trick the brain into thinking it’s getting an extra dose of glucose (the brain’s fuel), but eventually the trick is on us because the brain adapts to not receiving the added glucose by overcompensating in other ways (leading to a variety of effects still under investigation).
Diet sodas could imbalance the bacterial jungle in our guts—the microbiome—causing unpredictable results. Since there’s a bacterial superhighway from gut to brain, which we know interacts with key neurotransmitters, this theory may eventually tell us more of a much bigger brain story.
Different artificial sweeteners in diet drinks have different effects, and there’s debate about which causes what. This study didn’t narrow down the exact types of artificial sweeteners that were consumed, so it’s an open question how one may have affected the brain differently than another."
Ref: https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2017/04/27/why-is-diet-soda-so-bad-for-your-brain/#1705e3305fad
I see a lot of buzzwords, and not much science, in there.
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I've searched online and in these forums to see what the popular opinion on this subject is. So many articles claim that no calorie sodas lead to weight gain and/or obesity. But I just don't understand how if you are running a calorie deficit.
What are your opinions?
I drink a fairly large amount of Coke Zero each day so this topic is important to me haha. Do I actually have to drink just water to lose weight?!
I use to but the caffeine for me stimulated appetite. I was told this by several Doctors but I was in denial...sooooo
I switched to decaffeinate brands but the carbonation also began to play havoc something else I was told ......soooo
I use the Walmart Brand of sugar free water flavors and now dieting is way easier. I even occasionally just drink water to cause well I run out of packets. lol
I still do on occasion drink a decaffeinated soda but to tell you the truth they just don't appeal to me anymore except as an occasional treat almost like a dessert.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »The statistics are clear. People that drink diet drinks over water tend to weigh more. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Study after study cannot be biased/ pushing an agenda. What agenda? To stop drinking diet drinks? Coke would fight tooth and nail against this.
I can even go to a family gathering and notice those that are drinking a diet drink weigh more than those drinking a water bottle. The statistics are not lying.
I've already noted this, but one study I looked at it implied that there is a psychological component whereby people think they're being good by drinking a diet soda and that, that somehow offsets the other copious amounts of calories they're taking in. It's not the soda itself. The studies aren't lying, they just don't tell the whole story which is typical of a correlation study.
This is pretty observable when dining out...someone with a huge double cheeseburger with bacon and extra large french fry...but it's all good because they're at least drinking a diet soda. Or I'm at a BBQ and someone has 4 different kinds of meats on their plates and a pile of beans and potato salad...but hey...they're drinking a diet soda.
It's not the beverage...it's everything else people are doing or not doing.
I could easily be that guy with the bacon cheeseburger, fries, and a diet drink. If I have room in my day for the bacon on my cheeseburger or a regular soda, I'm taking the bacon every time.
Me to, I love bacon0 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
Sorry, that's generalization! You might as well say that people who drink soda don't know what real tastes are like and are too used to artificial crap. While those that enjoy drinking water like real, pure tastes. I guess there might be some truth in both, and in a few other similar statements.0 -
200lbs lost drink lots of coke zero every day.14
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When dieting I consume a huge amount of "zero calorie" drinks and food product, I've never logged them and I have always made the progress I expected.
If you have a low TDEE I would advise tracking these foods as the occasional 4-5 calories can add up if you have large quantities,3 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »I guess I must be an outlier, then. Dropped nearly 70 lbs in 8 months and if anything, I've upped my diet soda consumption.
Nope, me too. 100lbs down and at least 500ml of diet soda a day.2 -
I have lost 16 pounds in seven weeks and I drink two diet pepsi's a day-I do not feel any different and they are my rewards to myself and I can enjoy them guilt free. I do monitor my sodium intake, so if I have met my sodium intake for the day I will skip them, but it isn't very often I do that. I do not find my hunger changes, Infact I find the soda's carbination filing if I am between meals and often use it after eating a meal to curb hunger.3
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Iheartrunning36 wrote: »I have lost 16 pounds in seven weeks and I drink two diet pepsi's a day-I do not feel any different and they are my rewards to myself and I can enjoy them guilt free. I do monitor my sodium intake, so if I have met my sodium intake for the day I will skip them, but it isn't very often I do that. I do not find my hunger changes, Infact I find the soda's carbination filing if I am between meals and often use it after eating a meal to curb hunger.
why are you worried about the sodium in diet pop?? the coke zero im drinking now has 30mg of sodium which is 1% of your daily total??4 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »Iheartrunning36 wrote: »I have lost 16 pounds in seven weeks and I drink two diet pepsi's a day-I do not feel any different and they are my rewards to myself and I can enjoy them guilt free. I do monitor my sodium intake, so if I have met my sodium intake for the day I will skip them, but it isn't very often I do that. I do not find my hunger changes, Infact I find the soda's carbination filing if I am between meals and often use it after eating a meal to curb hunger.
why are you worried about the sodium in diet pop?? the coke zero im drinking now has 30mg of sodium which is 1% of your daily total??
To put this in context, a tsp of salt (tsp, not tablespoon) has about 2300 mg of sodium.
So 30 mg is 1.3% of a tsp of salt.
I don't log salt, but I recklessly toss in pinches here and there while cooking that easily dwarf what's in a can of diet soda. (And that's without considering what's naturally in the water you might otherwise be drinking.)5 -
I drink a ton of Diet Pepsi, it's aspartame free which is good and it's not the best thing in the world for me but it didn't magically cause me to gain weight, crave stuff, and it didn't expand my stomach either3
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chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
taste buds are shot? Seriously? Not quite....
To be fair, If you smoke a lot, you start to lose the ability to taste and smell things. My father reached the point where he would put so much hot spice in his foods because that was the only thing that would trigger "taste" to him anymore.
once he quit smoking after 5+ years his ability to taste did start to come back.2 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
taste buds are shot? Seriously? Not quite....
To be fair, If you smoke a lot, you start to lose the ability to taste and smell things. My father reached the point where he would put so much hot spice in his foods because that was the only thing that would trigger "taste" to him anymore.
once he quit smoking after 5+ years his ability to taste did start to come back.
Bizarrely, I find that eating quality spicy foods enhances my ability to detect subtle flavors0 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
taste buds are shot? Seriously? Not quite....
To be fair, If you smoke a lot, you start to lose the ability to taste and smell things. My father reached the point where he would put so much hot spice in his foods because that was the only thing that would trigger "taste" to him anymore.
once he quit smoking after 5+ years his ability to taste did start to come back.
I've definitely heard of this with the whole smoking thing! Crazy!0
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