No Calorie Sodas and Weight
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I've never noticed them doing me any harm. That said, I make sure that's not ALL I drink, because acidic soda is not the best thing for your teeth all the time.3
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It's the same line of thinking that fat people wear large clothes therefore large clothes must make you fat.25
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chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
taste buds are shot? Seriously? Not quite....
After a certain point, usually weeks or months, my taste buds literally won't let me keep drinking water...
So the flavor packets come out for a couple weeks or a month.
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stanmann571 wrote: »chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
taste buds are shot? Seriously? Not quite....
After a certain point, usually weeks or months, my taste buds literally won't let me keep drinking water...
So the flavor packets come out for a couple weeks or a month.
I've noticed my taste buds are BETTER after months of not drinking soda. To each their own, I guess.9 -
I don't like wasting calories on drinks so if I want a flavorful beverage I enjoy water drops or sometimes a Coke Zero. Though this thread made me really crave a zero calorie cream soda. Maybe I'll sneak a can into the movies tonight, lol.
I don't think that diet sodas make you fat. But I can understand how a person NOT tracking calories could think, "Oh, if I have diet soda then I could have more high calorie food." But because they aren't tracking they don't realize that the tradeoff isn't actually balancing calorie wise.8 -
stanmann571 wrote: »chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
taste buds are shot? Seriously? Not quite....
After a certain point, usually weeks or months, my taste buds literally won't let me keep drinking water...
So the flavor packets come out for a couple weeks or a month.
Same. Crystal Light or diet soda to keep me sane at that point.
Peach-flavored, right, @stanmann571?
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quiksylver296 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »To drink water all day your tastebuds must be shot. Those people will eat less. That's my observation.
Those that crave diet sodas have a craving for taste.... they like food more... they tend to weigh more.
taste buds are shot? Seriously? Not quite....
After a certain point, usually weeks or months, my taste buds literally won't let me keep drinking water...
So the flavor packets come out for a couple weeks or a month.
Same. Crystal Light or diet soda to keep me sane at that point.
Peach-flavored, right, @stanmann571?
Yeah... Uh huh
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Awesome replies. And fits to what my common sense was telling me: if you track calories and know you have a deficit there's no way a zero calorie drink can cause weight gain.
It also reinstates the fact that I hate "weight loss studies" as they're often biased and pushing one agenda or another. Also, probably a lot of click bait as the diet industry is huge business.13 -
Awesome replies. And fits to what my common sense was telling me: if you track calories and know you have a deficit there's no way a zero calorie drink can cause weight gain.
It also reinstates the fact that I hate "weight loss studies" as they're often biased and pushing one agenda or another. Also, probably a lot of click bait as the diet industry is huge business.
Actually, one of the problems with a lot of weight loss studies isn't that they're biased (true scientific studies)...but rather, they tend to be correlation studies. There actually is a strong correlation between drinking diet sodas and obesity...most of these actual studies won't say that X is directly attributable to Y, they'll just illustrate the correlation. I've read one such study, and they mention in the study that there seems to be a strong psychological component that people drinking diet soda think they are being good, so they can just indulge elsewhere.
Another problem...probably the biggest problem and where you actually run into bias is that a journal or magazine or whatever will pick up on a study and either 1) misinterpret what the study is actually saying, or 2) they will deliberately cherry pick particular parts of the study without giving you the whole story in order to further an agenda or get headlines...this isn't the fault of the study but rather the presentation of the study by media sources.
Unfortunately, people are more likely to pick up and read a sensationalized piece of work in a magazine than actually reading a scientific study.8 -
Awesome replies. And fits to what my common sense was telling me: if you track calories and know you have a deficit there's no way a zero calorie drink can cause weight gain.
It also reinstates the fact that I hate "weight loss studies" as they're often biased and pushing one agenda or another. Also, probably a lot of click bait as the diet industry is huge business.
Bingo.4 -
The statistics are clear. People that drink diet drinks over water tend to weigh more. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Study after study cannot be biased/ pushing an agenda. What agenda? To stop drinking diet drinks? Coke would fight tooth and nail against this.
I can even go to a family gathering and notice those that are drinking a diet drink weigh more than those drinking a water bottle. The statistics are not lying.
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TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »The statistics are clear. People that drink diet drinks over water tend to weigh more. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Study after study cannot be biased/ pushing an agenda. What agenda? To stop drinking diet drinks? Coke would fight tooth and nail against this.
I can even go to a family gathering and notice those that are drinking a diet drink weigh more than those drinking a water bottle. The statistics are not lying.
I absolutely agree with this. When I drink soda, diet or not, I am way more inclined to eat something I shouldn't. I feel like I have better control over myself when I drink water.7 -
I guess I must be an outlier, then. Dropped nearly 70 lbs in 8 months and if anything, I've upped my diet soda consumption.17
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Everyone is different. That might work for SOME, but it surely does not work for me. Lol. I require at least 80oz of water to keep myself full throughout the day without over eating. I cannot imagine drinking 80oz in reg or diet soda.5
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TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »The statistics are clear. People that drink diet drinks over water tend to weigh more. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Study after study cannot be biased/ pushing an agenda. What agenda? To stop drinking diet drinks? Coke would fight tooth and nail against this.
I can even go to a family gathering and notice those that are drinking a diet drink weigh more than those drinking a water bottle. The statistics are not lying.
I've already noted this, but one study I looked at it implied that there is a psychological component whereby people think they're being good by drinking a diet soda and that, that somehow offsets the other copious amounts of calories they're taking in. It's not the soda itself. The studies aren't lying, they just don't tell the whole story which is typical of a correlation study.
This is pretty observable when dining out...someone with a huge double cheeseburger with bacon and extra large french fry...but it's all good because they're at least drinking a diet soda. Or I'm at a BBQ and someone has 4 different kinds of meats on their plates and a pile of beans and potato salad...but hey...they're drinking a diet soda.
There is also a correlation between people who drink a lot of water being more health conscious in general...they watch their diets more closely and are typically regular exercisers.
I drink a ton of water and I usually drink one or two diet sodas in the evening...I eat a very healthful diet in general and exercise regularly...drinking diet soda did not stop me from losing weight nor has it hindered 4+ years of maintenance.
It's not the beverage...it's everything else people are doing or not doing.21 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »The statistics are clear. People that drink diet drinks over water tend to weigh more. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Study after study cannot be biased/ pushing an agenda. What agenda? To stop drinking diet drinks? Coke would fight tooth and nail against this.
I can even go to a family gathering and notice those that are drinking a diet drink weigh more than those drinking a water bottle. The statistics are not lying.
I've already noted this, but one study I looked at it implied that there is a psychological component whereby people think they're being good by drinking a diet soda and that, that somehow offsets the other copious amounts of calories they're taking in. It's not the soda itself. The studies aren't lying, they just don't tell the whole story which is typical of a correlation study.
This is pretty observable when dining out...someone with a huge double cheeseburger with bacon and extra large french fry...but it's all good because they're at least drinking a diet soda. Or I'm at a BBQ and someone has 4 different kinds of meats on their plates and a pile of beans and potato salad...but hey...they're drinking a diet soda.
There is also a correlation between people who drink a lot of water being more health conscious in general...they watch their diets more closely and are typically regular exercisers.
I drink a ton of water and I usually drink one or two diet sodas in the evening...I eat a very healthful diet in general and exercise regularly...drinking diet soda did not stop me from losing weight nor has it hindered 4+ years of maintenance.
It's not the beverage...it's everything else people are doing or not doing.
Spot on.
I always think of the Columbia University study between flossing and heart disease. Rather obvious to take a step back and observe that perhaps those who floss in general take better care of their overall health and thereby carry a decreased risk profile in regards to heart health.
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chelseahatch24 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »The statistics are clear. People that drink diet drinks over water tend to weigh more. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Study after study cannot be biased/ pushing an agenda. What agenda? To stop drinking diet drinks? Coke would fight tooth and nail against this.
I can even go to a family gathering and notice those that are drinking a diet drink weigh more than those drinking a water bottle. The statistics are not lying.
I absolutely agree with this. When I drink soda, diet or not, I am way more inclined to eat something I shouldn't. I feel like I have better control over myself when I drink water.
I'm glad I dont.6 -
thecrushinator wrote: »My old trainer told me that the reason behind diet soda causing weight gain was that the artificial sweeteners spike blood sugar more than regular sugar does, making people less insulin sensitive and then seeking even more sugar when you sugar crash. Also it (might just be me) turns you into a Macy's parade float.
Only it's not true. They've done studies specifically on this, and diet soda doesn't cause insulin spikes. It may cause an increase in leptin, the enzyme in saliva that begins to metabolize carbohydrates, which may be why **some** people feel hungrier.
I enjoy my diet soda. It helps curb my desire for sweets.
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My advice, if you're going to drink diet soda, try one that doesn't have the aspartame in it, like diet Pepsi or diet coke with splenda.
No thanks. Diet Pepsi's change made it less palatable, and my mom even switched from CF Diet Pepsi to CF Diet Coke.
Also: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary
Same here! Sucralose (brand name = Splenda) is nasty tasting.
And it hasn't been as extensively studied as aspartame (mostly because it's newer).0 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »The statistics are clear. People that drink diet drinks over water tend to weigh more. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Study after study cannot be biased/ pushing an agenda. What agenda? To stop drinking diet drinks? Coke would fight tooth and nail against this.
I can even go to a family gathering and notice those that are drinking a diet drink weigh more than those drinking a water bottle. The statistics are not lying.
The statistics are clear. On days where more people walk around with umbrellas it tends to rain more often. I hope that someday the reason why is found.
Jokes aside, that seems to be the occam's razor, doesn't it? People are overweight and start drinking diet pop instead of regular to save calories.23
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