Anyone else doing a sugar free diet?
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rheddmobile wrote: »Here is a completely decadent dessert free of all refining except for the energetic use of your own blender.
http://talesofakitchen.com/desserts/chocolate-banana-cake-with-caramel-layer-and-cacao-nibs/
For this dessert, calories are king.
That looks really good! Do you happen to know the carbs / slice off the top of your head? I can see the dates are going to have a fair number. I've been struggling with birthdays since becoming diabetic.
This dessert is inappropriate for a diabetic. It is far too high in natural sugars (14 g carbs) and 200 calories for a teeny slice.
For you, core an apple and fill it with walnuts cinnamon and raisins. Nuke it.3 -
MarziPanda95 wrote: »paulwatts747 wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Nope, I gained weight because I ate excess calories mostly from salty/savory foods, with very low sugar content. For example-I'd sit down at night with a book and proceed to eat an entire bag of chili cheese fritos, which contain less than 1g of sugar per serving. One bag contains 1,600 calories. I was doing this on top of eating 3 meals and other snacks throughout the day. My weight gain had very little to do with sugar and everything to do with me consuming too many calories. I also didn't drink alcohol when I was overweight....
There's always an exception I suppose. SIXTEEN HUNDRED calories in a 28 gram bag of corn chips? They should be feeding those things to the starving in Africa. I hope it didn't take you too long to scour the net for a food high in calories but low in sugar.
Seriously? So those of us (I count at least three at this point) who have pointed out that we gained our excess weight on savoury low-sugar foods MUST be lying? Just because we don't agree with your point, don't fit your mold, don't work with your opinion, we're liars?
This is why people are saying the anti-sugar crowd aren't open minded. Even if we went to your house and ran these experiments to prove you wrong right in front of your very eyes, you wouldn't believe it. Even if we brought along leading scientists, nutritionists, weight loss experts... you'd still believe a quack like Lustig. Even if we shrunk you down to the size of a nanobot and went into someone's body to see what was happening, you wouldn't believe it.
Lmao I'm out
good luck with your goals, everyone.
Pretty sure we're being trolled, but hopefully the lurkers reading through this thread will realize that one can gain, lose and maintain their weight eating all sorts of different kinds of foods, high in sugar or not-it comes down to calorie balance. Once you figure that out you can then move forward with your weight goals
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rheddmobile wrote: »Here is a completely decadent dessert free of all refining except for the energetic use of your own blender.
http://talesofakitchen.com/desserts/chocolate-banana-cake-with-caramel-layer-and-cacao-nibs/
For this dessert, calories are king.
That looks really good! Do you happen to know the carbs / slice off the top of your head? I can see the dates are going to have a fair number. I've been struggling with birthdays since becoming diabetic.
This dessert is inappropriate for a diabetic. It is far too high in natural sugars (14 g carbs) and 200 calories for a teeny slice.
For you, core an apple and fill it with walnuts cinnamon and raisins. Nuke it.
14g is pretty good, actually - I can handle up to about 50g net carbs at a sitting without my glucose going over 140. Definitely not an everyday food, but quite possible for a once a year occasion.1 -
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Ha! For some reason since yesterday when I'm on the desktop version most of my posts are posting 2-3 times, driving me nuts! I cleared my cookies and restarted my computer but it's still being obnoxious.1 -
This sounds so unhealthy to me.3
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I can gain weight eating just under 50 grams of carbs daily with effort but I will lose it when I stop trying yet eating all of the calories it takes to make me fill stuffed daily. Anyone would reverts to name calling of others without a background that supports the name calling seems to me to be like hating on others for some unknown reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lustig3 -
paulwatts747 wrote: »I note that the World Health Organisation recommends a sugar intake of no more than 5% of calories. That would amount to 100 calories or 25 grams of sugar on a 2000 calorie intake.
No, that's wrong. They recommend that ADDED or FREE sugars be no more than 10% of calories, 5% being even better. And as I often say, I think that 5% recommendation is quite reasonable and try to follow it in general (although the WHO's rationale is about calories and nutrition and teeth, so if you are someone who logs and is careful about diet but happens to eat more for some reason, that seems fine too).
The WHO's recommendation has nothing to do with any claims that ALL sugars should be limited OR with the claim that a NO sugar (or even no added sugar) diet is somehow healthier than one with 5% or less added sugar or the like. As I said early on, I am currently eating almost no added sugar, but I eat lots of fruit, veg, dairy, and I also see no reason why it would be beneficial to worry about the fact that something like sriracha has a little added sugar.
The WHO certainly does not support a claim to the contrary.I note also that MFP's recommended maximum is 3 times this much. So while I've been getting down to half recommended maximum sugar intake, I'm still 50% over that of the WHO.
NOPE. The MFP amount is ALL sugar and is based on a (sadly low, IMO) estimate of the amount of fruit and vegetables that most people consume. I can easily consume 25 g or more from vegetables (even if not eating fruit). If you think the WHO would find that a bad thing, I think you really misunderstand their recommendation, and nutrition.
For most people, keeping sugar below 25 g would mean eating fewer veg and fruit than is really ideal for health, IMO.7 -
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OliveGirl128 wrote: »paulwatts747 wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Nope, I gained weight because I ate excess calories mostly from salty/savory foods, with very low sugar content. For example-I'd sit down at night with a book and proceed to eat an entire bag of chili cheese fritos, which contain less than 1g of sugar per serving. One bag contains 1,600 calories. I was doing this on top of eating 3 meals and other snacks throughout the day. My weight gain had very little to do with sugar and everything to do with me consuming too many calories. I also didn't drink alcohol when I was overweight....
There's always an exception I suppose. SIXTEEN HUNDRED calories in a 28 gram bag of corn chips? They should be feeding those things to the starving in Africa. I hope it didn't take you too long to scour the net for a food high in calories but low in sugar.
Didn't need to scour the internet, I just pulled the bag out of my pantry
eta: many kinds of chips and pretzels have very low sugar, or even no sugar. Those are the foods I ate too much of and that's mostly where my 50lb weight gain came from. Once I learned how CICO worked though, I was able to then move on and lose the extra weight with minimal fuss.
Hold on, hold on - how much does the bag weigh? because a 28 gram bag of anything couldn't have more than 252 calories... is that a typo and it's a 280g bag? Coz that makes more sense...2 -
We are all just batteries anyway ....1 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »paulwatts747 wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Nope, I gained weight because I ate excess calories mostly from salty/savory foods, with very low sugar content. For example-I'd sit down at night with a book and proceed to eat an entire bag of chili cheese fritos, which contain less than 1g of sugar per serving. One bag contains 1,600 calories. I was doing this on top of eating 3 meals and other snacks throughout the day. My weight gain had very little to do with sugar and everything to do with me consuming too many calories. I also didn't drink alcohol when I was overweight....
There's always an exception I suppose. SIXTEEN HUNDRED calories in a 28 gram bag of corn chips? They should be feeding those things to the starving in Africa. I hope it didn't take you too long to scour the net for a food high in calories but low in sugar.
Didn't need to scour the internet, I just pulled the bag out of my pantry
eta: many kinds of chips and pretzels have very low sugar, or even no sugar. Those are the foods I ate too much of and that's mostly where my 50lb weight gain came from. Once I learned how CICO worked though, I was able to then move on and lose the extra weight with minimal fuss.
Hold on, hold on - how much does the bag weigh? because a 28 gram bag of anything couldn't have more than 252 calories... is that a typo and it's a 280g bag? Coz that makes more sense...
Yeah, it was a typo on pp's end-one serving is 28g/160 calories. One bag has 10 servings, so around 280g per bag/1,600 calories. Really, it's a smallish bag, so its not that big of a challenge to eat a whole bag at a time, (in the past I've done this many times with these smaller bags of chips/pretzels/Pringles cans etc). Heck, it's like 1 epic Walking Taco's worth 1 -
OliveGirl128 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »paulwatts747 wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Nope, I gained weight because I ate excess calories mostly from salty/savory foods, with very low sugar content. For example-I'd sit down at night with a book and proceed to eat an entire bag of chili cheese fritos, which contain less than 1g of sugar per serving. One bag contains 1,600 calories. I was doing this on top of eating 3 meals and other snacks throughout the day. My weight gain had very little to do with sugar and everything to do with me consuming too many calories. I also didn't drink alcohol when I was overweight....
There's always an exception I suppose. SIXTEEN HUNDRED calories in a 28 gram bag of corn chips? They should be feeding those things to the starving in Africa. I hope it didn't take you too long to scour the net for a food high in calories but low in sugar.
Didn't need to scour the internet, I just pulled the bag out of my pantry
eta: many kinds of chips and pretzels have very low sugar, or even no sugar. Those are the foods I ate too much of and that's mostly where my 50lb weight gain came from. Once I learned how CICO worked though, I was able to then move on and lose the extra weight with minimal fuss.
Hold on, hold on - how much does the bag weigh? because a 28 gram bag of anything couldn't have more than 252 calories... is that a typo and it's a 280g bag? Coz that makes more sense...
Yeah, it was a typo on pp's end-one serving is 28g/160 calories. One bag has 10 servings, so around 280g per bag/1,600 calories. Really, it's a smallish bag, so its not that big of a challenge to eat a whole bag at a time, (in the past I've done this many times with these smaller bags of chips/pretzels/Pringles cans etc). Heck, it's like 1 epic Walking Taco's worth
Ah thanks, I was thinking you'd discovered the calorie TARDIS of foods.3 -
https://bmcnutr.biomedcentral.com/
"The present study used a metabolic chamber to measure the effects of consuming sugar-sweetened drinks with a meal. Sugar-sweetened drinks decreased energy expenditure and fat oxidation even when consumed with a high protein meal."
For those not into peer reviewed articles do not click on the link above or below.
https://bmcnutr.biomedcentral.com/about3 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »https://bmcnutr.biomedcentral.com/
"The present study used a metabolic chamber to measure the effects of consuming sugar-sweetened drinks with a meal. Sugar-sweetened drinks decreased energy expenditure and fat oxidation even when consumed with a high protein meal."
For those not into peer reviewed articles do not click on the link above or below.
https://bmcnutr.biomedcentral.com/about
LOL. That "study" was complete and utter horsemanure. Almost entirely self-reported intake, plus only two 24 hr ward sessions? Yeah, you're gonna get some real useful info there.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »https://bmcnutr.biomedcentral.com/
"The present study used a metabolic chamber to measure the effects of consuming sugar-sweetened drinks with a meal. Sugar-sweetened drinks decreased energy expenditure and fat oxidation even when consumed with a high protein meal."
For those not into peer reviewed articles do not click on the link above or below.
https://bmcnutr.biomedcentral.com/about
LOL. That "study" was complete and utter horsemanure. Almost entirely self-reported intake, plus only two 24 hr ward sessions? Yeah, you're gonna get some real useful info there.
After you read the above peer reviewed research please post your peer reviewed articles that support your personal opinion stated above about the metabolic chamber research paper.6 -
Merits of that study aside, not sure what the effect of sugar-sweetened beverages has to do with the need/benefits of going sugar free and consuming "no processed food at all" (and as always, I still doubt anyone here actually avoids all processed foods, and you yourself post about consuming them, Gale).
I'd be interested in a thread on sugar-sweetened beverages particularly if you want to discuss that thread. But personally I don't consume them (don't like wasting calories on beverages and don't like most sugar sweetened beverages, in particular I dislike sweetened coffee), but don't follow a sugar free diet (I am currently eating lots of fruit, in fact) or avoid processed foods (why give up cheese?).1 -
I had a lot of weight loss success by changing nothing about my diet other than cutting out added sugar, candies, sweets, etc. I'm slowly weaning myself off again. Did y'all know sugar can be more addictive than cocaine? Oof.10
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I remember before gluten problems eating anything and everything. Going to the grocery store I would pick up a lunchable, a piece of pizza, or a chicken sandwich and eat it on my way home so my bf wouldn't see it and then I would eat dinner. On my way to work after already eating breakfast I would grab a egg and cheese biscuit and a large ice coffee every work day. I was eating to much of everything ... yes including sweets.1
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