Going VEGAN, please help!

Vegans do not eat a lot of fruits. Instead they eat beans, lentils, chickpeas, tofu, tempeh in order to eat enough protein.
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KaroshiQueen wrote: »

AJ_G wrote: »

I find that it's always best to change my entire lifestyle based solely on watching biased, skewed propaganda. Hope that works out well for you

Mind your own business. There's nothing wrong with going Vegan after learning about the horrors of the animal ag industry.

You're right, there's nothing wrong with going vegan, if it's an educated choice, or if you have moral reasons for doing so, but to go vegan after watching a sad excuse for a documentary that is packed full of inaccuracies and lies, that is not the best decision. Don't be lazy, do some research...

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I'm not a vegan but healthy vegans get adequate protein because protein is essential for good health. Do your research.

I was vegan for years a long time ago, but have two good friends that are avid 'veganeers' (no dairy, meat, honey, the whole 9 yards). They eat a lot seitan, tofu, and legumes with their vegetables.

One is a semi serious chef, and makes lots of cream sauces with raw cashews and stuff like that. I've also dabbled with tofu mousse's, pies, etc., which have all turned out great.

I personally think the processed vegan stuff is nasty (think tofurkey, and products like that), but that's just me. Keep things simple if you are starting off.

For example, make a pesto with olive oil, basil and garlic for your pasta. Use vegetables and vegetable broth seasoned with spices (garlic, ginger, green onions) and make homemade ramen (not the packaged stuff). Throw in bok choy and spinach, carrots and such.

Learn how to buy the right tofu for the right means (i.e. extra firm for stir fries and soft for desserts), learn to cook tofu the right way (tons of online resources). If you can get tofu down, then move to seitan. You can make the stuff taste amazing with the right ingredients.

Moral of the story, experiment and don't be afraid to try vegetables you never would have tried.

didcrywolf wrote: »

Be specific

They claimed an unnamed surgeon at an unnamed hospital's unnamed P.R. person told them that the surgeon will not speak with them about dietary prevention of diseases explicitly because the hospital and the surgeon make money off surgeries that treat the resulting illnesses. That's a load of crap, even if that were the case, they would never explicitly state that as the reason.

They continually quoted the study about 50g of processed meats per day increasing your risk for colon cancer by 18%, which is not technically incorrect, but is extremely misleading. In reality, everyone has a default 5% risk of colon cancer, and the 50g of processed meats per day increases that risk to 5.9%. That 18% number that gets thrown around is straight fear mongering and is misleading.

They cited the Canadian study that compares egg consumption to cigarettes, even though that study got ripped to shreds and debunked almost immediately after it came out over 5 years ago.

The narrator spends the first half hour of the movie "proving"(in his mind) that animal products are equally as bad as cigarettes and other group 1 carcinogens like plutonium(give me a break). He then uses this as a trump card when calling different American health agencies, and when the very first person who picks up the phone at each agency(most likely a receptionist) tries to explain that they're not the proper person to ask these questions of, the narrator goes "well see here, these agencies won't even answer my questions". It's so transparent it's actually pretty embarrassing.

At one point in the movie, one of the doctors even says "carbohydrates cannot cause you to gain weight in and of themselves because your body can store them as glycogen or use the glucose in the blood stream." That is just a completely inaccurate statement and that doctor should be ashamed that he ever said it.

We have wonderful, very high end gourmet vegan restaurant here in downtown Atlanta. While I'm not a vegan (semi-vegetarian or pescetarian), I am amazed at the wonderful dishes like creamy curry with tofu and vegetables over jasmine rice and seared mushroom steaks and desserts that are absolutely delicious. Their vegan chocolate cake (with tons of chocolate icing) is to die for! Eating vegan does not have to mean being limited to a diet of sprouts and wheat germ. Explore vegan recipes online (there are 1000's of them) and explore the vegetarian or "health" section of your local grocery store and try some things. You don't know until you try something whether you will love it or hate it. All of that said, calories are still calories so don't fool yourself thinking that eating vegan won't pile the pounds on....it will. There are plenty of fat vegans and vegetarians out there.