Going VEGAN, please help!
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cristoleyz wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »Just wanted to ask a piggy back question off this post, what is everyone favorite vegan protein bar? If kaleb says Gratitude I am going to flag it so please don't bother. I was looking at the "no cow" bars in GNC and some of the flavors looked good but I am hesitant since I am new to this. Also has anyone tried the "Olly" vegan protein powder? I was thinking about trying that as well. Thanks!
I've had the now cow bars.... not bad tasting but I'm an avid lover of Quest so for me I find nothing compares lol
If only whey didn't make me vomit.. *sigh* I do miss Quest bars! Becoming Lactose Intolerant at 25 is worse then being born with it because I know what I'm missing!2 -
Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »cristoleyz wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »Just wanted to ask a piggy back question off this post, what is everyone favorite vegan protein bar? If kaleb says Gratitude I am going to flag it so please don't bother. I was looking at the "no cow" bars in GNC and some of the flavors looked good but I am hesitant since I am new to this. Also has anyone tried the "Olly" vegan protein powder? I was thinking about trying that as well. Thanks!
I've had the now cow bars.... not bad tasting but I'm an avid lover of Quest so for me I find nothing compares lol
If only whey didn't make me vomit.. *sigh* I do miss Quest bars! Becoming Lactose Intolerant at 25 is worse then being born with it because I know what I'm missing!
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I have not read every single post in this thread, so I apologize if someone has already covered this. If you are interested in discussing a vegan diet, thing to eat that don't suck, and coping techniques, or whatever whatever whatever, RATHER than getting bogged down in a debate about doing your research and the back and forth that has consumed these forums since time immemorial, I'm happy to do that.
Here's where I am:
-Since attempting to be vaguely vegan (the title of my new Christian New Wave Rap-Metal album, coincidentally), I have become a solid vegetarian and not the best vegan;
-I am tempted to eat too many meatless products and "cheat" foods that happen to be vegan, like french fries and chips and stuff (I'm not going to get into the processed bad or good debate, I just happen to think that if the spirit of the lifestyle is plant-based, I'd rather do that than eat boca burgers all of the time)
-I have found a solid four or five meals that I LOVE and are either vegan or almost so (the only dairy I really do is a bit of cheese, sometimes an egg)
Happy to talk! Shoot me a PM or I'll try to check back on this thread.1 -
Nothing wrong with going vegan but please don't make major life decisions based on Netflix "documentaries" that are clearly biased towards one side. At least do a tiny bit of research into whether or not the claims made are accurate, even if your built-in BS meter doesn't go through the roof at some of the ridiculous claims made by this movie.
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Wow. Everyone here was so excited to bash veganism that they forgot to answer your questions. So sad!
I'm vegan, feel free to add and message me for support. Never understood why people against a lifestyle feel so moved to take time to argue on forums. MFP community forums should be for inspiring and supporting one another...but maybe I'm just an irrational vegan who is clearly losing her mind...it must be the lack of protein.12 -
Wow. Everyone here was so excited to bash veganism that they forgot to answer your questions. So sad!
I'm vegan, feel free to add and message me for support. Never understood why people against a lifestyle feel so moved to take time to argue on forums. MFP community forums should be for inspiring and supporting one another...but maybe I'm just an irrational vegan who is clearly losing her mind...it must be the lack of protein.
No one's bashing veganism. They're 'bashing' the decision to go vegan based on a "documentary" full of misinformation. Big difference.16 -
Ok, so after watching the documentary What The Health, I am going vegan. I have already given up milk, after seeing the poor treatment of the cows on dairy farms. I am seeking to speak with vegans only. Please if you are an avid protein fan, I do not care about the lack of protein. I am looking for people who actively and successfully eat vegan.
So what are your staples?
I pretty much eat the same thing day in and day out, so having variety is not important. However, at this moment, I can only see veggies and fruits. I was a low carber for a long time and rarely eat grains, unless its cereal.
Your help would be greatly appreciated. Also any recommendations for cookbooks would be a major help.
I do not have a budget for food, per se, however, eating organic and blowing money is not an option.
Thanks in advance!
Kahesha
I have to say the movie had the same impact on me for a few days while I researched the validity of the science stated in the movie.
Read up on how to maintain Vitamin D levels in the 50-75 ng range while you are eating that way.
@kricard86 best of success with your new way of eating.4 -
Anti- What the Health vegan checking in. Everyone else covered the tomfoolery of the documentary, so I'll answer your question. My staples are tofu, frozen veggies, canned beans (without pork fat), sourdough bread, avocados, potatoes, and nutritional yeast. I rarely buy organic. I save my pennies for vegan ice cream.
The only vegan cookbook I recommend is Vegan Cookies Take Over Your Cookie Jar. For recipes online visit Oh She Glows and Hot For Food.12 -
Wow. Everyone here was so excited to bash veganism that they forgot to answer your questions. So sad!
I'm vegan, feel free to add and message me for support. Never understood why people against a lifestyle feel so moved to take time to argue on forums. MFP community forums should be for inspiring and supporting one another...but maybe I'm just an irrational vegan who is clearly losing her mind...it must be the lack of protein.
No one here is anti-vegan, (there's quite a large group of vegans/vegetarians that hang out here), but there will be push back on the documentary because it's full of misinformation. Did you not see the vegans posting here also saying that? Did you read the review I posted a link to, from a highly respected vegan dietician, who goes through and methodically picks the documentary apart?12 -
Wow. Everyone here was so excited to bash veganism that they forgot to answer your questions. So sad!
I'm vegan, feel free to add and message me for support. Never understood why people against a lifestyle feel so moved to take time to argue on forums. MFP community forums should be for inspiring and supporting one another...but maybe I'm just an irrational vegan who is clearly losing her mind...it must be the lack of protein.
Several people, including myself, offered tips and suggestions.5 -
I was vegan diring part of my 16-year stint as a vegetarian. I liked the cookbook Vegan Vittles if you can find it. Tofu was a go-to, but I only liked it in dishes that originally had it (Korean, Thai, etc.). I ate a ton of beans, rice, homemade sourdough, vegetables, and fruit.
I was missing something, though. Despite eating plenty of calories, I was fatigued, lightheaded, and started losing my hair. I was already on a multivitamin with iron and a B12 supplement, and my doctor and I couldn't figure it out, so I went back to lacto veg, and I was fine. I say that not to scare you off -- I've known plenty of healthy vegans -- but to share my own experience.
I think everyone above has covered the problems with What the Health, so if you're going to go through with this, find some healthy vegans in person or online and learn how they eat so you hopefully don't end up with the troubles I had.6 -
KaroshiQueen wrote: »
You're right, there's nothing wrong with going vegan, if it's an educated choice, or if you have moral reasons for doing so, but to go vegan after watching a sad excuse for a documentary that is packed full of inaccuracies and lies, that is not the best decision. Don't be lazy, do some research...
It is a moral reason. My disclaimer was meant for people just like you. If you don't want to help, that's fine. But don't think for a minute that your rude comments and trying to call my bluff is going to make me feel some type of way. I don't apologize if seeing a slaughter house has completely made me not meat right now. That may change but truly I don't have to explain my desire, goals, or reasons to anyone. I am doing this I WANT TO.10 -
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Oh and just an update!! I am a few days short of 2 weeks. Still no desire to eat meat.5
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I was vegan for years a long time ago, but have two good friends that are avid 'veganeers' (no dairy, meat, honey, the whole 9 yards). They eat a lot seitan, tofu, and legumes with their vegetables.
One is a semi serious chef, and makes lots of cream sauces with raw cashews and stuff like that. I've also dabbled with tofu mousse's, pies, etc., which have all turned out great.
I personally think the processed vegan stuff is nasty (think tofurkey, and products like that), but that's just me. Keep things simple if you are starting off.
For example, make a pesto with olive oil, basil and garlic for your pasta. Use vegetables and vegetable broth seasoned with spices (garlic, ginger, green onions) and make homemade ramen (not the packaged stuff). Throw in bok choy and spinach, carrots and such.
Learn how to buy the right tofu for the right means (i.e. extra firm for stir fries and soft for desserts), learn to cook tofu the right way (tons of online resources). If you can get tofu down, then move to seitan. You can make the stuff taste amazing with the right ingredients.
Moral of the story, experiment and don't be afraid to try vegetables you never would have tried.
Thank you thank you thank you! I really appreciate the help and that you took my question seriously! Thanks! I have been eating tofu and it's growing on me. And I have not tried the processed stuff simply because even eating meat etc, I don't eat much processed food. My issue is wine0 -
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Anti- What the Health vegan checking in. Everyone else covered the tomfoolery of the documentary, so I'll answer your question. My staples are tofu, frozen veggies, canned beans (without pork fat), sourdough bread, avocados, potatoes, and nutritional yeast. I rarely buy organic. I save my pennies for vegan ice cream.
The only vegan cookbook I recommend is Vegan Cookies Take Over Your Cookie Jar. For recipes online visit Oh She Glows and Hot For Food.
Thanks! It seems I have been grocery shopping a million times this week. Slowly but surely I am getting my pantry in order. I appreciate your help. My co-workers just told me to keep quinoa handy... I absolutely hate it but will try again0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »
On average I get between 45g- about 60g, unless I'm supplementing with shakes, then it's more.0 -
didcrywolf wrote: »Be specific
They claimed an unnamed surgeon at an unnamed hospital's unnamed P.R. person told them that the surgeon will not speak with them about dietary prevention of diseases explicitly because the hospital and the surgeon make money off surgeries that treat the resulting illnesses. That's a load of crap, even if that were the case, they would never explicitly state that as the reason.
They continually quoted the study about 50g of processed meats per day increasing your risk for colon cancer by 18%, which is not technically incorrect, but is extremely misleading. In reality, everyone has a default 5% risk of colon cancer, and the 50g of processed meats per day increases that risk to 5.9%. That 18% number that gets thrown around is straight fear mongering and is misleading.
They cited the Canadian study that compares egg consumption to cigarettes, even though that study got ripped to shreds and debunked almost immediately after it came out over 5 years ago.
The narrator spends the first half hour of the movie "proving"(in his mind) that animal products are equally as bad as cigarettes and other group 1 carcinogens like plutonium(give me a break). He then uses this as a trump card when calling different American health agencies, and when the very first person who picks up the phone at each agency(most likely a receptionist) tries to explain that they're not the proper person to ask these questions of, the narrator goes "well see here, these agencies won't even answer my questions". It's so transparent it's actually pretty embarrassing.
At one point in the movie, one of the doctors even says "carbohydrates cannot cause you to gain weight in and of themselves because your body can store them as glycogen or use the glucose in the blood stream." That is just a completely inaccurate statement and that doctor should be ashamed that he ever said it.
I didn't buy into many things in the documentary. It was the animals that bothered me. BTW, I am from the hog plant area in North Carolina so I grew up smelling pigs and watching chickens head to the slaughter (all my friends work at those plants). I can't change how it made me feel. I do however disagree with some egg/cheese myths and that's why I am teetering on the veg/vegan line... but thank you for the breakdown.3
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