Who watched "fat sick and nearly dead"?
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Shawshankcan wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Science doesn't care what you believe.
Until today's science is proven wrong tomorrow.10 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
A smoothie is with fibre juice leaves behind the pulp which IS the fibre.
My point exactly. (When I make juice I just use a food processor and pour the liquid right into the cup. Nothing gets left behind. So to speak.)1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Science doesn't care what you believe.
Until today's science is proven wrong tomorrow.
Maybe someday, but not today...1 -
RedfootDaddy wrote: »
I think the point is to go cold-turkey on things like sugars, refined carbs, fast food, and junk. The juicing itself is secondary. The main thing is to brute force your way through cravings and the will-power-leeching habits of the first couple weeks of any new WOE. Which is easier if you're only drinking a melange of fruits and veg.
Juice is pretty much literally sugar water with vitamins in it. It's no different to drinking pop, except for the vitamins. Juice even takes out the fibre (juice with the fibre left in is a smoothie) so you're not even getting that benefit.OnthatStuff wrote: »
I'm not going to weigh in on juice fasting. Still, if anything, juicing as a part of a normal diet can be an easy way to get larger portions of fruit and veggie nutrients into your diet. In my experience, drinking those nutrients is often much easier than eating them. For example, I don't like eating beets, but I can hide their flavor in a drink using a few slices of fruit.
Unfortunately, it really doesn't work that way. Juice can ONLY count as ONE of your recommended 5-a-day, according to most accepted science. This is because juice leaves out a lot of the most important stuff such as fibre, and the nutrients of the skin etc. It also concentrates the sugar. Sugar's not bad for you, but it's a lot of calories for very little benefit. Sure, you're getting loads of vitamin C and A but it's really not the same as eating those fruits and vegetables whole.
All in all, OP, I'd recommend just... eating less and getting a balanced diet.
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I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
ok, no one cares about juicing..what we care about are the BS claims that it somehow detoxifies the body..7 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Science doesn't care what you believe.
Until today's science is proven wrong tomorrow.
Science is a process. There are no facts to be proven right or wrong. Everything is a theory. Once a theory has been tested enough times, it is accepted. That still doesn't make it a fact.
Some theories you take for granted without even realizing it. You don't fall off the earth (theory of gravity), you type on your computer (theory of electricity), and you have no problem getting in an airplane (many theories at work here). Yet when there's a chance at a shortcut and an snake oil salesman is involved, people suspend common sense. So to those who are easily manipulated, I know the one TRUE way to fly. Trust me (but please pay up front )/5 -
It always makes me chuckle a little when people say "BUT SCIENCE" in relation to nutrition. It is perhaps the field with the least scientific consensus that I've ever seen. It's the nature of the beast. You could conduct the exact same experiment on 2 sets of different people that seem otherwise similar and get totally different and contradictory results.11
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I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
If you're using a "juicer" then it's already straining out the fiber. If you use a food processor or blender then you'll still get the fiber even if it's completely liquefied.
I watched that movie a couple years ago and thought it was interesting and wanted to try it. My son was also interested so I bought both of us juicers on Amazon and we both tried it for awhile. Comparing notes and sharing ideas.
Main takeaways for me:
Pros: tasty juice with lots of vitamins
Cons: expensive, messy, wasteful, not very filling
I was buying a lot of produce, making a big mess in my kitchen, getting a little bit of juice and then had lots of leftover veggie fiber that just went into the composter. I tried making soup out of the fiber but it wasn't that great. The juicer was also hard to clean, so it was time consuming.
I switched to just make fruit/veggie smoothies, cleaned up the PITA juicer and donated it to charity. I think my son's charity donation preceded mine by several weeks.2 -
RaeBeeBaby wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
If you're using a "juicer" then it's already straining out the fiber. If you use a food processor or blender then you'll still get the fiber even if it's completely liquefied.
I don't make smoothies (or whatever) often enough to justify owning a dedicated juicer; I just use my food processor. Works for juices, smoothies, sauces, malts, etc....1 -
RaeBeeBaby wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
If you're using a "juicer" then it's already straining out the fiber. If you use a food processor or blender then you'll still get the fiber even if it's completely liquefied.
I don't make smoothies (or whatever) often enough to justify owning a dedicated juicer; I just use my food processor. Works for juices, smoothies, sauces, malts, etc....
That's fine, but when people are talking about juicing (especially in the context of this movie) they're referring to a specific machine that removes the fiber. It isn't just blended fruit, there is straining involved.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »RaeBeeBaby wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
If you're using a "juicer" then it's already straining out the fiber. If you use a food processor or blender then you'll still get the fiber even if it's completely liquefied.
I don't make smoothies (or whatever) often enough to justify owning a dedicated juicer; I just use my food processor. Works for juices, smoothies, sauces, malts, etc....
That's fine, but when people are talking about juicing (especially in the context of this movie) they're referring to a specific machine that removes the fiber. It isn't just blended fruit, there is straining involved.
That makes more sense. But then, I don't really see the sense in juicing to begin with. Now a chocolate ice cream malted milkshake, OTOH....3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »RaeBeeBaby wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
If you're using a "juicer" then it's already straining out the fiber. If you use a food processor or blender then you'll still get the fiber even if it's completely liquefied.
I don't make smoothies (or whatever) often enough to justify owning a dedicated juicer; I just use my food processor. Works for juices, smoothies, sauces, malts, etc....
That's fine, but when people are talking about juicing (especially in the context of this movie) they're referring to a specific machine that removes the fiber. It isn't just blended fruit, there is straining involved.
That makes more sense. But then, I don't really see the sense in juicing to begin with. Now a chocolate ice cream malted milkshake, OTOH....
There is no real sense in it (unless you just happen to really enjoy juice).0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Did you just bump a thread that hasn't been posted in for over 4 months in order to scold people and brag about your expensive juicer?
No, I just watched the documentary again and thought I'd see who in the MFP community had tried it. I didn't see how old the thread was nor do I see why that matters if the conversation is still relevant since people still juice? Brag about my juicer? I was comparing it to the outrageous $200-400+ juicers that are usually recommended. To my original point, ya'll get so irked for nothing. Don't like the trend than bypass it. No need to scold me for liking it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯6 -
diannethegeek wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Did you just bump a thread that hasn't been posted in for over 4 months in order to scold people and brag about your expensive juicer?
No, I just watched the documentary again and thought I'd see who in the MFP community had tried it. I didn't see how old the thread was nor do I see why that matters if the conversation is still relevant since people still juice? Brag about my juicer? I was comparing it to the outrageous $200-400+ juicers that are usually recommended. To my original point, ya'll get so irked for nothing. Don't like the trend than bypass it. No need to scold me for liking it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ok...1 -
No, I just watched the documentary again and thought I'd see who in the MFP community had tried it. I didn't see how old the thread was nor do I see why that matters if the conversation is still relevant since people still juice? Brag about my juicer? I was comparing it to the outrageous $200-400+ juicers that are usually recommended. To my original point, ya'll get so irked for nothing. Don't like the trend than bypass it. No need to scold me for liking it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But what if other gullible people are lurking. Do we allow them to think it works?4 -
I didn't watch it, but I enjoy reading about it on MFP.6
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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »RaeBeeBaby wrote: »I can't believe how irked some people get over juicing. I agree it isn't a sustainable meals choice but I do believe the fruits/veggies are a great boost for your system! I do a 7 day cleanse sporadically. Usually to mix up my meals or because buying bags of fruit and greens is SO much easier than meal planning. I bought an $80 juicer and disposable cups with lids on Amazon and I don't regret it at all.
Why not just eat the veggies and fruit as part of a healthy eating plan instead of tearing them up in a blender and drinking them???
Because fiber is for wimps?
As long as they don't strain the juice they'll still get the fiber.
If you're using a "juicer" then it's already straining out the fiber. If you use a food processor or blender then you'll still get the fiber even if it's completely liquefied.
I don't make smoothies (or whatever) often enough to justify owning a dedicated juicer; I just use my food processor. Works for juices, smoothies, sauces, malts, etc....
That's fine, but when people are talking about juicing (especially in the context of this movie) they're referring to a specific machine that removes the fiber. It isn't just blended fruit, there is straining involved.
That makes more sense. But then, I don't really see the sense in juicing to begin with. Now a chocolate ice cream malted milkshake, OTOH....
There is no real sense in it (unless you just happen to really enjoy juice).
In general only with gin.2 -
It's still significantly better than any of the hundred vegan propaganda films spreading their anti-gmo, anti-science, anti-vaccine kale eating *kitten*0
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