Is it true pear-shapeds should eat lower fat?

oftheocean
oftheocean Posts: 3 Member
edited November 21 in Health and Weight Loss
Any anecdotal experiences or bro-science/sis-science theories?

I know your hormonal profile contributes to regulation of the use and storage of fuel, and pear ladies either have lots of estrogen that directs fat to those hips n thighs or have lots of a certain type of receptor in this area that gleefully stuff fat into the cells screaming 'Store! STORE!!' you know, thanks to evolution and stuff. I'm not certain how to apply what I've read in literature - Google scholar isn't direct with the diet tips haha.

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  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    to the OP...no.

    to the other post...I can't even...
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    I'm pear shaped and have lost weight on a height fat reduced carb diet. It makes me feel better and help manage my appetite
  • Running_and_Coffee
    Running_and_Coffee Posts: 811 Member
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    I'm pear shaped and have lost weight on a height fat reduced carb diet. It makes me feel better and help manage my appetite

    Me too...fat is my friend (in healthy amounts.) If I eat 100 calories of avocado, I'll feel much more full than if I ate a slice of bread the same calorie count.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    edited September 2017
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    This whole post is complete BS. Estrogen dominance is a fake disease, not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Please learn some critical thinking skills.

    I've always heard hormone imbalance was a real legitimate thing. Would you please explain why hormone imbalance and estrogen dominance is fake. I really want to know this because I supposedly have signs of hormonal imbalance low progesterone with symptoms of hair loss, chin/jawline acne, and menstruation issues among other things and if that's not what is causing it then I would like to at least know I'm barking up the wrong tree. My doctor sure seems to think it's an imbalance. On a side note, assuming I had an imbalance I changed my diet around according to what you would do with an imbalance for example I drink way less coffee and alcohol than I used to and other things and I saw big improvements, so something was definitely working for some reason and I'd like to get to the bottom of what that is. Thanks!
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,563 Member
    kenyonhaff wrote: »
    The whole "apple-shaped", "Hourglass-shaped", "pear shape" and so on are great guidelines for picking out flattering clothing, but not so much for plans for losing weight.

    One of the tricks the diet industry uses to get people to buy into ridiculous diet plans is trying to convince people that there is a feature that customizes dieting: body shape and blood type for example. But all of that is mystical woo.

    Oh, and notice that those body shapes only really apply to women? (Have you ever seen men discussing their problem thighs or lamenting their rectangle shape?) Yeah, that's targeting women. Be wary of any plan that does that to that extent.

    Calories in, calories out.

    I love you just for this sentence <3
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,563 Member
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    Well, thank God I'm an apple, and I never thought I'd say that.

  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,744 Member
    I used to think I was pear-shaped. Then I started lifting. That helped tremendously with evening out my proportions (along with proper calorie intake, of course).

    I've also stopped using those terms altogether for 1) because if you believe you are a certain shape then you're less likely to put forth the effort to make visible changes, and 2) for the same reason @kenyonhaff noted.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    MegaMooseEsq wrote: »
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    This whole post is complete BS. Estrogen dominance is a fake disease, not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Please learn some critical thinking skills.

    I've always heard hormone imbalance was a real legitimate thing. Would you please explain why hormone imbalance and estrogen dominance is fake. I really want to know this because I supposedly have signs of hormonal imbalance low progesterone with symptoms of hair loss, chin/jawline acne, and menstruation issues among other things and if that's not what is causing it then I would like to at least know I'm barking up the wrong tree. My doctor sure seems to think it's an imbalance. On a side note, assuming I had an imbalance I changed my diet around according to what you would do with an imbalance for example I drink way less coffee and alcohol than I used to and other things and I saw big improvements, so something was definitely working for some reason and I'd like to get to the bottom of what that is. Thanks!

    It appears from a quick jaunt to Dr. Google's office that "estrogen dominance" is a specific kind of hormone imbalance that probably does not exist, given that the only websites I see talking about it appear to be garbage. I assume other forms of hormone issues are real.

    Ah Thank you, I was gonna say something is causing this craziness that has been going on since I got off BC, I guess it is low progesterone ( which if you think about it would make estrogen the more dominant one) Maybe that's why it's so confusing. It's not estrogen dominance but a low progesterone.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    This whole post is complete BS. Estrogen dominance is a fake disease, not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Please learn some critical thinking skills.

    I've always heard hormone imbalance was a real legitimate thing. Would you please explain why hormone imbalance and estrogen dominance is fake. I really want to know this because I supposedly have signs of hormonal imbalance low progesterone with symptoms of hair loss, chin/jawline acne, and menstruation issues among other things and if that's not what is causing it then I would like to at least know I'm barking up the wrong tree. My doctor sure seems to think it's an imbalance. On a side note, assuming I had an imbalance I changed my diet around according to what you would do with an imbalance for example I drink way less coffee and alcohol than I used to and other things and I saw big improvements, so something was definitely working for some reason and I'd like to get to the bottom of what that is. Thanks!

    I didn't see anyone saying hormone imbalance wasn't a real thing but that estrogen dominance was and the whole low sugar...and chemical BS comments...were called into question
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,563 Member
    bagge72 wrote: »
    mph323 wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    Well, thank God I'm an apple, and I never thought I'd say that.

    Doubly good news is that if someone where to eat you, they would die of starvation, since you are zero calories, those pears are *kitten* though.

    Hahaha - backpeddling out of that thread really fast now!
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    edited September 2017
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    This whole post is complete BS. Estrogen dominance is a fake disease, not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Please learn some critical thinking skills.

    I've always heard hormone imbalance was a real legitimate thing. Would you please explain why hormone imbalance and estrogen dominance is fake. I really want to know this because I supposedly have signs of hormonal imbalance low progesterone with symptoms of hair loss, chin/jawline acne, and menstruation issues among other things and if that's not what is causing it then I would like to at least know I'm barking up the wrong tree. My doctor sure seems to think it's an imbalance. On a side note, assuming I had an imbalance I changed my diet around according to what you would do with an imbalance for example I drink way less coffee and alcohol than I used to and other things and I saw big improvements, so something was definitely working for some reason and I'd like to get to the bottom of what that is. Thanks!

    I didn't see anyone saying hormone imbalance wasn't a real thing but that estrogen dominance was and the whole low sugar...and chemical BS comments...were called into question

    Thanks if you look above your post someone already helped me out but thanks anyway!
  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    MegaMooseEsq wrote: »
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    This whole post is complete BS. Estrogen dominance is a fake disease, not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Please learn some critical thinking skills.

    I've always heard hormone imbalance was a real legitimate thing. Would you please explain why hormone imbalance and estrogen dominance is fake. I really want to know this because I supposedly have signs of hormonal imbalance low progesterone with symptoms of hair loss, chin/jawline acne, and menstruation issues among other things and if that's not what is causing it then I would like to at least know I'm barking up the wrong tree. My doctor sure seems to think it's an imbalance. On a side note, assuming I had an imbalance I changed my diet around according to what you would do with an imbalance for example I drink way less coffee and alcohol than I used to and other things and I saw big improvements, so something was definitely working for some reason and I'd like to get to the bottom of what that is. Thanks!

    It appears from a quick jaunt to Dr. Google's office that "estrogen dominance" is a specific kind of hormone imbalance that probably does not exist, given that the only websites I see talking about it appear to be garbage. I assume other forms of hormone issues are real.

    Ah Thank you, I was gonna say something is causing this craziness that has been going on since I got off BC, I guess it is low progesterone ( which if you think about it would make estrogen the more dominant one) Maybe that's why it's so confusing. It's not estrogen dominance but a low progesterone.

    Yeah, my sister-in-law has PCOS and some crazy hormone stuff going on that has led to severe health issues, including debilitating migraines that have kept her from working or living independently for years. That's real. Estrogen dominance sounds like the kind of thing marketed to women who are looking for something other than "you're eating too much" to explain why they're struggling to lose weight.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    This whole post is complete BS. Estrogen dominance is a fake disease, not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Please learn some critical thinking skills.

    I've always heard hormone imbalance was a real legitimate thing. Would you please explain why hormone imbalance and estrogen dominance is fake. I really want to know this because I supposedly have signs of hormonal imbalance low progesterone with symptoms of hair loss, chin/jawline acne, and menstruation issues among other things and if that's not what is causing it then I would like to at least know I'm barking up the wrong tree. My doctor sure seems to think it's an imbalance. On a side note, assuming I had an imbalance I changed my diet around according to what you would do with an imbalance for example I drink way less coffee and alcohol than I used to and other things and I saw big improvements, so something was definitely working for some reason and I'd like to get to the bottom of what that is. Thanks!

    I didn't see anyone saying hormone imbalance wasn't a real thing but that estrogen dominance was and the whole low sugar...and chemical BS comments...were called into question

    Thanks if you look above your post someone already helped me out but thanks anyway!

    Yes I saw...

    I was pointing out however that it wasn't even mentioned so hence I didn't quite understand why it needed cleared up...
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    edited September 2017
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    emmydoodles83 wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    It's called estrogen dominance! Body fat makes you hold on to excess estrogen.

    See these websites:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/

    Consider getting rid of all of the chemicals in your home. Try going fragrance / dye free or natural cleaners. Frebreeze and similar products are endocrine disruptors and can actually make it difficult for people to lose weight. Think about getting rid of make-up, scented lotions and perfume unless they are paraben free.

    I am also taking a boatload of natural progesterone (prometrium 200 mgs.) Discuss this with your doctor. Based on your family history of breast cancer, it may well save your life or not be right for you.

    Maintaining a calorie deficit as well as switching to low sugar (hidden in canned and packaged food) / low carb (no more than 100 g daily) with high protein and healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil, chicken skin, grass fed beef fat) will assist you in lowering the amount of body fat you store.

    This whole post is complete BS. Estrogen dominance is a fake disease, not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Please learn some critical thinking skills.

    I've always heard hormone imbalance was a real legitimate thing. Would you please explain why hormone imbalance and estrogen dominance is fake. I really want to know this because I supposedly have signs of hormonal imbalance low progesterone with symptoms of hair loss, chin/jawline acne, and menstruation issues among other things and if that's not what is causing it then I would like to at least know I'm barking up the wrong tree. My doctor sure seems to think it's an imbalance. On a side note, assuming I had an imbalance I changed my diet around according to what you would do with an imbalance for example I drink way less coffee and alcohol than I used to and other things and I saw big improvements, so something was definitely working for some reason and I'd like to get to the bottom of what that is. Thanks!

    I didn't see anyone saying hormone imbalance wasn't a real thing but that estrogen dominance was and the whole low sugar...and chemical BS comments...were called into question

    Thanks if you look above your post someone already helped me out but thanks anyway!

    Yes I saw...

    I was pointing out however that it wasn't even mentioned so hence I didn't quite understand why it needed cleared up...

    There was confusion for me on hormone imbalance being mixed up with estrogen dominance, it was cleared up and that's pretty much how it went. Is there a particular reason you want to start a dialogue about why I was confused and why you need to understand it? Let me explain it better, in my mind the confusion comes from what estrogen dominance is. If I have low progesterone wouldn't that mean that the estrogen was then the dominant hormone, and is that the same as estrogen dominance or would it just be considered low progesterone. It was confusing someone cleared it up and that pretty much sums it up.
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