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Do you say something?
celiah909
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Do you say something if you have friends or people in general say things about weight loss you disagree with or do you just let them do their thing? Does it matter how well you know the person if you do say something?
Asking out of curiosity, I don’t say anything against it but also don’t agree. I tend to avoid getting too far into the conversation.
Examples:
Friends say they burned 400 calories doing 30 minutes of housework? (As seen in MFP feed)
Friend says everyone needs a MLM cleanse for weight loss? Or XYZ supplement for weight loss/keeping muscle/etc. (from a friend who sells & supports Advocare)
Friend says their new weight loss doctor says they gained 100 pounds because their body went into starvation mode? (From a family member)
Asking out of curiosity, I don’t say anything against it but also don’t agree. I tend to avoid getting too far into the conversation.
Examples:
Friends say they burned 400 calories doing 30 minutes of housework? (As seen in MFP feed)
Friend says everyone needs a MLM cleanse for weight loss? Or XYZ supplement for weight loss/keeping muscle/etc. (from a friend who sells & supports Advocare)
Friend says their new weight loss doctor says they gained 100 pounds because their body went into starvation mode? (From a family member)
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It depends... but usually yes.2
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stanmann571 wrote: »It depends... but usually yes.
I wanted to add that I’m in part asking cause I feel I should say something but I never do
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I dont. I chuckle and move along. People don't want to hear the truth unless it is convenient or it absolves them.
Plus, what is a "weight loss doctor"? I'm not from the USA so this is very strange to me.7 -
I don't say anything unless someone specifically asks how I lost weight or what my current eating plan is. People who buy into scams are not worth my argument and people who say "my doctor said..." are usually so set on "but he/she is a doctor" that it isn't worth wasting my breath. I do me and let my acquaintances, friends, and family do them.6
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I usually say something when the "Detox" or "Cleanse" folks start their pitch. Which will be in a few months when the "New Year, New You" stuff happens. My answer is usually from the Harvard Detox study (See Below)
The body's own detox system
We tend to forget that the body is equipped with a detoxification system of its own, which includes the following:
The skin. The main function of the body's largest organ is to provide a barrier against harmful substances, from bacteria and viruses to heavy metals and chemical toxins. The skin is a one-way defense system; toxins are not eliminated in perspiration.
The respiratory system. Fine hairs inside the nose trap dirt and other large particles that may be inhaled. Smaller particles that make it to the lungs are expelled from the airways in mucus.
The immune system. This exquisitely orchestrated network of cells and molecules is designed to recognize foreign substances and eliminate them from the body. Components of the immune system are at work in blood plasma, in lymph, and even in the small spaces between cells.
The intestines. Peyer's patches — lymph nodes in the small intestine — screen out parasites and other foreign substances before nutrients are absorbed into the blood from the colon.
The liver. Acting as the body's principal filter, the liver produces a family of proteins called metallothioneins, which are also found in the kidneys. Metallothioneins not only metabolize dietary nutrients like copper and zinc but also neutralize harmful metals like lead, cadmium, and mercury to prepare for their elimination from the body. Liver cells also produce groups of enzymes that regulate the metabolism of drugs and are an important part of the body's defense against harmful chemicals and other toxins.
The kidneys. The fact that urine tests are used to screen for drugs and toxins is a testament to the kidneys' remarkable efficiency in filtering out waste substances and moving them out of the body.
The bottom line
The human body can defend itself very well against most environmental insults and the effects of occasional indulgence (see "The body's own detox system"). If you're generally healthy, concentrate on giving your body what it needs to maintain its robust self-cleaning system — a healthful diet, adequate fluid intake, regular exercise, sufficient sleep, and all recommended medical check-ups. If you experience fatigue, pallor, unexplained weight gain or loss, changes in bowel function, or breathing difficulties that persist for days or weeks, visit your doctor instead of a detox spa.
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It would depend on how well I knew them. Except for the cleanse thing. I'd likely say 'No, I don't believe that.' to anyone.3
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I usually don't say anything, or I'll just say what I am doing if we're having a conversation. People just do not want to hear anything contradictory to their beliefs and I don't want to waste my time.6
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I dont. I chuckle and move along. People don't want to hear the truth unless it is convenient or it absolves them.
Plus, what is a "weight loss doctor"? I'm not from the USA so this is very strange to me.
I’m not 100% who she is seeing but she found a weight loss clinic and works with a doctor on their staff. She is on a keto diet and get B-12 shots- good news she did lose around 50 pounds so far
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I usually smile and say, "I lost 72 lbs by counting calories and eating whatever I wanted. Good luck!" Of course, I stopped counting, ate way over, and gained 25 lbs back so I haven't been saying anything lately. If there's an easy science to point to, I will, like, "That was debunked. Google -starvation mode debunked-." Thankfully I don't know anyone who does pyramid schemes.4
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stanmann571 wrote: »It depends... but usually yes.
I wanted to add that I’m in part asking cause I feel I should say something but I never do
Just like here on the forums. I'm that guy in meatspace too. Speaking truth(sometimes to power) and bringing the harsh painful reality.3 -
Friends say they burned 400 calories doing 30 minutes of housework? (As seen in MFP feed)
No. If they ask, then maybe.Friend says everyone needs a MLM cleanse for weight loss? Or XYZ supplement for weight loss/keeping muscle/etc. (from a friend who sells & supports Advocare)
Yes.Friend says their new weight loss doctor says they gained 100 pounds because their body went into starvation mode? (From a family member)
Yes.
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Unless it's actually harmful, like "I only eat bananas" or "I only feed my child 600 calories a day" a day, then no I do not comment unless asked. There are none so deaf as those who don't wish to hear.14
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Only if they specifically ask me my opinion or try to sell me one of the 'magic' what-evers.5
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It depends, but usually not.
I learned through my own experience that people need to find their own path. The situations where a word is seen as helpful rather than rude or belittling are few and far between. I try to be discerning.9 -
I know I shouldn't but usually the urge to say something is too great and I end up getting sucked in
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In general, I hold my tongue if I just hear somebody talking. If they ask for my thoughts, I will give them. However, I never expect anybody to change their opinions or processes based on what I say.6
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Rather than stating anything, I will sometimes ASK. "Wow, that's really interesting. Where did you hear about that?" is a nice, non-confrontational way to check sources.7
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Depends on the person and circumstances. If it's just someone I know telling a story at lunch or something, usually not. I might ask a question, again depending. If it's someone I know well and know has an interest and enjoys the kind of conversation, I might get into it more.1
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Unless they specifically ask what I think or my advice.. I will usually let them be.3
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Keto works! I have lost 30lbs in the last 4 months.14
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Most of my friends and family are pretty well versed in fitness and nutrition so it's not really an issue...co-workers and whatnot, I usually don't say anything...not really worth my time.4
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It depends on the person and the situation.
Example:
Mom: I can never be skinny I have too many fat cells.
Me: (silence) She's been overweight my entire life and has no desire to change her eating habits so I just leave it be.
Friend: Tell me exactly your workout at the gym. I want to look like you.
Me: Thanks, but you don't want to look like me. You want to look like the best version of you. I mainly lift weights and do occasional cardio but what matters most is the amount of calories I take in.
Otherwise, as others have said, I say nothing unless asked directly.6 -
KrittersGal wrote: »Keto works! I have lost 30lbs in the last 4 months.
Not trying to say it doesn't. I think keto fits for some people.3 -
not anymore.
I used to sometimes but eh. most people don't want advice they just want to talk.
If they want my advice they will ask.
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Yes I usually speak up.
There is so much nonsense that is spread around that unless people speak up "a lie told often enough becomes the truth".1 -
Not usually. I've had people tell me (while they watch me eat pizza/ice cream/cake) that the reason I lost weight is because I don't eat things like pizza/ice cream/cake.4
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I do, which is mostly stuff my mother says. She got everything she knows about diet and fitness in 1983 and there is no changing her mind! I don't know why I keep trying.2
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I say all the things especially if I know they are wrong and I can teach them and help them. I try to do it gently but you can't control how other's take things. If they get combative I back away slowly and let them torture themselves.
I also have a habit of laughing uncontrollably at some people's ridiculous advice which tends to get me in trouble.3 -
Depends. If they are talking about what has worked for them, or even what they are trying even though it is not working, then I keep quiet. If they tell me what I should be doing, they usually don't like the response. If I'm in a good mood, it's "Why? What I'm doing works just fine for me." If I'm not in a good mood then the gloves are off.
But I also don't really like to talk about it in real life. I had someone gush over my weight loss (she hasn't seen me in 100+ lbs) and it got a bit much. I'd rather move on to another topic. Same if someone wants advice. I find I don't say much more then "I ate less".1 -
I will if they seem receptive and like it will help them. But, if they are happy, I don't get into that (especially if I don't know them very closely).0
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