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Nutritionislife wrote: »I wish you were 5'1", id be able to give you better advice. The only thing i could say is use smaller plates, bowls and baby spoons at home. Drink all water, nothing else. I dont excercise because i feel i dont have the time either! You can lose weight through mostly portion control. You've lost the weight before. I say don't focus on excercise right now. Only focus on nutrition. Add excercise later. I havent excercised at all and in these 4 months i am down about 28 pounds. Good luck
You can still give me advice even though I’m 5’9 it’s all the same thing (almost )
I’m open to any advice !
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I challenge you not to excercise for 3 months but to educate yourself and make changes in your nutrition only. I was talking about caloric intake, types of meals for 1,200 calories and different challenges 5'1" females deal with but of course i still have tips. 1 pound shows much more on us short people quicker. Anyways...
1. Drink water, nothing else..youll save lots of hidden calories just by that.
2. Read about and learn about your body type such as caloric intake, nutrient and vitamin info
3. Set goals, write them down and measure your body
4. Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like a pauper
5. Find at least 2 snacks for each taste...like sweet, salty, cold. Have them available always
6. No red meats or cheese, maybe once a month
7. Dont have cheat days, have a cheat meal; but not every day! Maybe 2 times a month.
8. Drink a beer or some liquor if you want it, once in a while.
9. Find new ways to make food you love, create things that fit your taste.
10. Use correct serving sizes and this app...you will fall in love with proper nutrition
By the time you really learn and apply all this, 3-4 months will pass easily. After you've learned what works for you and you have dropped some good amount of weight. Excercise is important, Id say out of 100% 70-80% is nutrition. I would get overwhelmed sometimes with gym and nutrition but learn one thing at a time. Nutrition should be priority, it is most important. Good luck.
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Nutritionislife wrote: »I challenge you not to excercise for 3 months but to educate yourself and make changes in your nutrition only. I was talking about caloric intake, types of meals for 1,200 calories and different challenges 5'1" females deal with but of course i still have tips. 1 pound shows much more on us short people quicker. Anyways...
1. Drink water, nothing else..youll save lots of hidden calories just by that.
2. Read about and learn about your body type such as caloric intake, nutrient and vitamin info
3. Set goals, write them down and measure your body
4. Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like a pauper
5. Find at least 2 snacks for each taste...like sweet, salty, cold. Have them available always
6. No red meats or cheese, maybe once a month
7. Dont have cheat days, have a cheat meal; but not every day! Maybe 2 times a month.
8. Drink a beer or some liquor if you want it, once in a while.
9. Find new ways to make food you love, create things that fit your taste.
10. Use correct serving sizes and this app...you will fall in love with proper nutrition
By the time you really learn and apply all this, 3-4 months will pass easily. After you've learned what works for you and you have dropped some good amount of weight. Excercise is important, Id say out of 100% 70-80% is nutrition. I would get overwhelmed sometimes with gym and nutrition but learn one thing at a time. Nutrition should be priority, it is most important. Good luck.
most of this is unnecessary woo.
OP - eat the calories that MFP tells you to - no need to arbitrarily avoid certain foods or stop exercising for 3 months. eat at a deficit and you will lose weight over time - it's as simple as that.11 -
Some people need to focus, they are not able to go to the gym and eat correct nutrition since they havent learned about what is healthy for themselves . Plus nutrient levels change so she needs to learn about herself without gym excercise to know what her normal nutrient levels are. Jumping to the gym and going home eating less unhealthy food only works for a while. Once she stops the gym she will continue with less calories but bad nutrition. And all it takes is some extra fries....shes back to her highest weight. Focus on nutrition first then add a gym regimen. Gym is not necessary at first if you are eating correctly.8
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Nutritionislife wrote: »Some people need to focus, they are not able to go to the gym and eat correct nutrition since they havent learned about what is healthy for themselves . Plus nutrient levels change so she needs to learn about herself without gym excercise to know what her normal nutrient levels are. Jumping to the gym and going home eating less unhealthy food only works for a while. Once she stops the gym she will continue with less calories but bad nutrition. And all it takes is some extra fries....shes back to her highest weight. Focus on nutrition first then add a gym regimen. Gym is not necessary at first if you are eating correctly.
I agree that the gym is not necessary for weight loss, but also no need to avoid working out altogether.
I was referring to the rest of your advice being mostly woo and unnecessary.5 -
Never assume people know all about themselves and nutrition. I had to learn it the hard way...these past 4 months focusing on only nutrition. I use to think i can go excercise at the gym and come home and eat less calories...but i never thought to limit my eating red meat (too much saturated fats), or use small bowls or babyspoons, or to eat breakfast big and dinner small. Too find foods that are sweet and healthy instead of a snickers. Before...I was focusing on running 3 miles which got me tired and i would sometimes come out of the gym hungry, eating anything. For most of us, focusing on nutrition before excercise is key and the advice ive given was very necessary for me. Every single one of those things ive learned in 3 months.10
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Nutritionislife wrote: »Never assume people know all about themselves and nutrition. I had to learn it the hard way...these past 4 months focusing on only nutrition. I use to think i can go excercise at the gym and come home and eat less calories...but i never thought to stop eating red meat (too much saturated fats), or use small bowls or babyspoons, or to eat breakfast big and dinner small. Too find foods that are sweer instead of a snickers. Before...I was focusing on running 3 miles which got me tired and i would sometimes come out of the gym hungry, eating anything. For most of us, focusing on nutrition before excercise is key and the advice ive given was very necessary for me. Every single one of those things ive learned in 3 months.
You can lose weight while eating red meat. You can lose weight while eating a small breakfast and a big dinner (or even no breakfast). You can lose weight while eating Snickers.
For weight loss, focusing on *calories* is important.
These things you're saying may make it easier for you to lose weight, but they aren't necessary for many others (including me). The only requirement to lose weight is a calorie deficit. At the beginning, especially when people are overwhelmed, focusing on too much stuff besides the deficit can be discouraging. And it's just diverting mental focus from what really matters -- creating a calorie deficit.21 -
Yes calorie deficit, but at first you need to learn your limits. Im talking about people that are just learning and dont have discipline. There really isnt any bad or good foods but certain foods must be very limited. So, at first you have to train your brain to cut them down and if taking them out for a month or two is necessary, then do it. These things have worked for me and im sure it will work for others that are stubborn like me. Then you can add in moderation. Also for my 5' 1" frame, no excercise...1200 calories is probably one snickers bar. Lol Us short girls need limits.12
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Nutritionislife wrote: »Yes calorie deficit, but at first you need to learn your limits. Im talking about people that are just learning and dont have discipline. There really isnt any bad or good foods but certain foods must be very limited. So, at first you have to train your brain to cut them down and if taking them out for a month or two is necessary, then do it. These things have worked for me and im sure it will work for others that are stubborn like me. Then you can add in moderation.
This approach may work well for you, but you really have no idea if it will work well for OP or not. What if she's more like me and eliminating specific foods just makes her think about them more?
I don't think there is any problem with sharing something in the spirit of "This worked for me, maybe it will work for you." The issue is when we take things that worked well for us and assume that everyone is like us and must do it the same way. That's why you're getting pushback here, because it isn't sufficiently clear from your posts that you're just describing your personal experience.
The truth is that OP may be one of the people who can sometimes have some candy while she's losing weight and not have a problem with it. She may want to have a small breakfast (or skip breakfast) so she can have a bigger dinner. Red meat may be one of her favorite foods. These things are all compatible with weight loss so making her think she has to change *everything* about the way she lives and eats may be more overwhelming than simply focusing on a calorie deficit and identifying *the personal changes* she may have to make in order to make a deficit more sustainable.15 -
If you focus on nutrition its the best way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to create any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!18
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Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to creat any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
what is the problem with red meat?? you keep focusing on that as if it is some horrible thing??10 -
Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to create any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
No. Eliminating foods may be the best way for *you* to sustain, but it isn't the best way for everyone.
You say yourself that not everything works for everyone, so stop assuming that she has to lose weight the same way that you do. Her sustainable plan may look different than yours.
It's contradictory for you to say there is only one way to sustain but that not everything works for everyone. You have no way of knowing that OP won't be successful eating foods like red meat and candy in the context of a calorie deficit. Maybe she's like you and she has to eliminate foods. Or maybe she is like a lot of people here and can lose weight by focusing on a calorie deficit without eliminating certain foods.10 -
champion818 wrote: »I am also a full time college student so it’s like I only have 7 hours left in the day after school and that’s to sleep time is really crunched with me . I’m not making excuses .... I see what u are saying though
I have been there when I was 20 I literally had 6 hours free a day. I had a weight problem and got engaged and lost weight very unhealthy about 30 pounds in around 2 months. I gain all 30 plus 30 back in the course of a few year. This time I am taking it slow. I only put .5 pound weight loss goal. Though I have been averaging 2 pounds. I wanted the highest number of calories I can eat and still loose .5 pounds a week. I also work all day at a desk. Though I am becoming more active outside of work I set my active level to sedentary. Then I focus on my diet. Sugary food and Starchy carbs are my down fall. It was impossible for me to have just one. After a month and half of dieting I have add bread or rice into my diet 1 or 2 a day. So far staying on track. I only do sugar load foods on the weekends because I move more. I try to always split that food item with some one or put half up for another day. With no time to exercise focus on that diet. When you have more time start getting those walks, weights, or yoga in. Take your measurements. I am more excited that I have lost 9 inches from my waist than I am that I lost 17 pounds. If you can't plan a day because it is to overwhelming start with a meal at a time. Look back at the end of each day and say could have done better? Is there a food here that didn't fill me up, can I find something that will.3 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to creat any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
what is the problem with red meat?? you keep focusing on that as if it is some horrible thing??
Im using red meat as an example of high saturated fats...but of course when eaten within you caloric limits and in moderation you can eat anything. But from this post she is struggling with weight and eating the wrong foods.10 -
Nutritionislife wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to creat any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
what is the problem with red meat?? you keep focusing on that as if it is some horrible thing??
Im using red meat as an example of high saturated fats...but of course when eaten within you caloric limits and in moderation you can eat anything. But from this post she is struggling with weight and eating the wrong foods.
Getting in a calorie deficit will address her weight issues. She may find, over time, that it's easier to maintain a deficit when she limits or avoids certain foods, but this isn't a requirement to lose weight.
You can lose weight while eating foods high in saturated fats. This is just a distraction from what OP needs to be focusing on, a calorie deficit.7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to create any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
No. Eliminating foods may be the best way for *you* to sustain, but it isn't the best way for everyone.
You say yourself that not everything works for everyone, so stop assuming that she has to lose weight the same way that you do. Her sustainable plan may look different than yours.
It's contradictory for you to say there is only one way to sustain but that not everything works for everyone. You have no way of knowing that OP won't be successful eating foods like red meat and candy in the context of a calorie deficit. Maybe she's like you and she has to eliminate foods. Or maybe she is like a lot of people here and can lose weight by focusing on a calorie deficit without eliminating certain foods.
I never said she has to do anything or eliminate anything completely and forever. So stop being a drama queen. Im telling her how I lost 28 pounds in 4 months without the gym. But read her post again because she says shes eating the wrong things. People will tell you exactly what they are doing wrong. Its in her nutrition. Since high saturated foods and sugars are contradictory to her goals; this is why they need to be if not eliminated, extremely limited at first. The reason for this is to train her brain to eat less of whatever. Which goes hand in hand with following serving sizes and nutrient content.19 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to creat any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
what is the problem with red meat?? you keep focusing on that as if it is some horrible thing??
Im using red meat as an example of high saturated fats...but of course when eaten within you caloric limits and in moderation you can eat anything. But from this post she is struggling with weight and eating the wrong foods.
Getting in a calorie deficit will address her weight issues. She may find, over time, that it's easier to maintain a deficit when she limits or avoids certain foods, but this isn't a requirement to lose weight.
You can lose weight while eating foods high in saturated fats. This is just a distraction from what OP needs to be focusing on, a calorie deficit.
Who said it was a requirement? Not me. Im just giving advice that worked for me. Settle down7 -
Nutritionislife wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to create any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
No. Eliminating foods may be the best way for *you* to sustain, but it isn't the best way for everyone.
You say yourself that not everything works for everyone, so stop assuming that she has to lose weight the same way that you do. Her sustainable plan may look different than yours.
It's contradictory for you to say there is only one way to sustain but that not everything works for everyone. You have no way of knowing that OP won't be successful eating foods like red meat and candy in the context of a calorie deficit. Maybe she's like you and she has to eliminate foods. Or maybe she is like a lot of people here and can lose weight by focusing on a calorie deficit without eliminating certain foods.
I never said she has to do anything or eliminate anything completely and forever. So stop being a drama queen. Im telling her how I lost 28 pounds in 4 months without the gym. But read her post again because she says shes eating the wrong things. People will tell you exactly what they are doing wrong. Its in her nutrition. Since high saturated foods and sugars are contradictory to her goals; this is why they need to be if not eliminated, extremely limited at first. The reason for this is to train her brain to eat less of whatever. Which goes hand in hand with following serving sizes and nutrient content.
She wrote "wrong" things, you're guessing as to what those things are or even if they are truly "wrong." She may just be under some misconceptions about nutrition (I've seen people say that potatoes or bread are "wrong" before). We don't know that she's eating foods high in saturated fat or sugar. These are projections based on *your history.*
What we can know for sure, since she's gaining weight, is that she's consuming more calories than her body is currently using. So rather than focusing on other things, she should focus on that.
This isn't a nutrition problem (although OP may find that making changes will make it easier for her to maintain a calorie deficit). It's a calorie problem.
I'm sorry you feel like this is drama, I just don't think it's helpful to make people who are new feel like they have to implement a bunch of (completely optional) restrictions in order to be successful. OP can begin by focusing on one thing and then figure out what other changes she *might* need to make in order to make a deficit more sustainable for her.9 -
But there are no 'wrong' foods. There are staples, there are 'sometime' foods, and there are 'are you absolutely positive you want to spend this many calories on it?' foods. And the category a food might fall into varies from person to person and situation to situation.
Someone running a marathon might chow down on a bag of gummi bears before the run. I'd likely take the bag and pre-portion it into 100-calorie servings and take one every other day or so. If we're talking jellybeans, though, I wouldn't buy more than a funsize pack at a time, because if I buy a whole bag, I will eat a whole bag. That same afternoon. Gummi bears don't have that effect on me.
Some people can snack on 100 calories of nuts and find them satiating. I find them in front of me and keep going back for more. But if I use a couple of tablespoons of chopped nuts to garnish a salad, I'm fine.
I know that I wouldn't have been able to stick with my weight loss, had I not admitted to myself, "I'm going into a situation where there will be food and I will want it. So, realistically, how much do I feel I 'need' in order to enjoy myself when everyone around me is partaking? Let's estimate calories now." And instead of going in there all uptight and thinking that I wasn't even going to look at the baked goods, I was going to stick to the fruit and veggie platters... I took a couple of pieces of potato kugel and a cookie that I'd pre-logged, and enjoyed it. And it came without all the guilt and negative self-talk that would have locked me in a cycle of 'eat-regret-feel guilty-eat to numb the guilt-finish-feel guiltier-eat more-etc'. Recognizing that I could cut back on foods I liked without cutting them out was incredibly freeing. If I'd sworn off of eating 'wrong foods', I know I would have given up long ago.14 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »Nutritionislife wrote: »If you focus on nutrition its the only way to sustain. She has fluctuated in weight. Her title and post clearly states that she feels she is failing....eating red meat and snickers for her wont work right now. She needs discipline first to creat any kind of deficit. The advice i give has worked for me. Common sense tells us not everything works for everyone!
what is the problem with red meat?? you keep focusing on that as if it is some horrible thing??
Im using red meat as an example of high saturated fats...but of course when eaten within you caloric limits and in moderation you can eat anything. But from this post she is struggling with weight and eating the wrong foods.
Getting in a calorie deficit will address her weight issues. She may find, over time, that it's easier to maintain a deficit when she limits or avoids certain foods, but this isn't a requirement to lose weight.
You can lose weight while eating foods high in saturated fats. This is just a distraction from what OP needs to be focusing on, a calorie deficit.
Lol. The distraction is being uneducated in nutrition. Nutrition and being at a healthy weight does not = counting calories. Count your calories if you want all day while eating all the saturated fat you can....then have a heart attack for eating too much saturated fats if you want too. Thats not my kind of plan.24
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