Is this a well balanced diet?

batorkin
batorkin Posts: 281 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I'm trying to get everything unhealthy out of the house, and ordering only select things that are easy to count calories. I plan to more or less remove everything from the house that is not on this list. Looking to lose ~90 pounds and currently 5 pounds in.

Fruits (Apples/Pears/Grapefruit)
Vegetables (Asparagus/Cucumbers/Carrots/Broccoli)
Fish (Salmon, Mackerel)
Meat (Chicken/Turkey)
Eggs
Baked Potatoes
Salad /w Light Ranch
Oatmeal /w Skim Milk
Chocolate Muscle Milk. Replacing this with one meal a day to fill my chocolate cravings, 50% DV Protein. I generally drink this after 40 minutes of exercise. (Gimmick or good idea?)
Nuts (Almonds/Unsalted Sunflower Seeds). Main snack food if I am feeling overly hungry on certain days.

As far as I can tell I am vastly under eating. 800-1100 calories a day, and the website wants me to eat about 1500-1700 calories to lose 2 pounds a week. I really only want to eat foods that I can track easily and know exactly when I need to eat more or less. I am also unsure about multi-vitamins. I've heard when you are eating healthy, they can actually be a bad thing.

Does this list look well balanced to you guys? Anything you would add or remove?
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  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,486 Member
    edited October 2017
    tyrindor wrote: »
    I'm trying to get everything unhealthy out of the house, and ordering only select things that are easy to count calories. I plan to more or less remove everything from the house that is not on this list. Looking to lose ~90 pounds and currently 5 pounds in.

    Fruits (Apples/Pears/Grapefruit)
    Vegetables (Asparagus/Cucumbers/Carrots/Broccoli)
    Fish (Salmon, Mackerel)
    Meat (Chicken/Turkey)
    Eggs
    Baked Potatoes
    Salad /w Light Ranch
    Oatmeal /w Skim Milk

    Chocolate Muscle Milk. Replacing this with one meal a day to fill my chocolate cravings, 50% DV Protein. I generally drink this after 40 minutes of exercise. (Gimmick or good idea?)
    Nuts (Almonds/Unsalted Sunflower Seeds). Main snack food if I am feeling overly hungry on certain days.

    As far as I can tell I am vastly under eating. 800-1100 calories a day, and the website wants me to eat about 1500-1700 calories to lose 2 pounds a week. I really only want to eat foods that I can track easily and know exactly when I need to eat more or less. I am also unsure about multi-vitamins. I've heard when you are eating healthy, they can actually be a bad thing.

    Does this list look well balanced to you guys? Anything you would add or remove?

    Eat enough of this to make up the calories 1500-1700 MFP gave you to lose weight. Absolutely no need to use a Meal Replacement Shake especially if you are under eating. And the consuming it 40 minutes after exercise is not necessary either. You can get all your protein through food by eating the protein sources you listed in your OP.

    Eat any time of the day but eat enough to sustain your normal day to day activities and exercise, etc. You still need adequate calories to lose weight. The MFP calorie deficit is already built in the 1500-1700 so hit this target each day.

    Another tip.. Your diet sounds quite restrictive, allow yourself to enjoy some foods you like now. You need to add in enough calories to meet your goal so add in something full fat (replace the skim, higher calorie dressing, add things to your salad to make it more caloric if you need to meet calories), add in a treat or something calorie dense (peanut butter, Greek Yogurt, list below)

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods/p1
  • Tried30UserNames
    Tried30UserNames Posts: 561 Member
    It looks like a good selection of foods to me. If you are lacking in calories, use full fat milk instead of skim. Use regular dressing instead of light ranch. Cook the meat in some butter or oil, and drizzle the vegetables with same. I'd probably prefer sweet potatoes and legumes over regular potatoes for a starch, but that's just personal preference.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Are these the foods you most enjoy and want to eat? Do you like cooking these foods? There's nothing wrong with this list except that it's a little bit boring. If it helps you to eat a boring diet, that's great. If it helps you to eat more variety, do that instead. The best diet is the one you stick to long term.

    In particular I notice you've bought into the idea that chicken and turkey are "good" and other meats are bad. That's not valid. Pork tenderloin in particular is lean and low calorie. So are some cuts of steak such as sirloin. It can be difficult to get enough iron while eating at a deficit and red meat can be helpful. I buy a one pound steak for myself about once a week, cook it, and eat part of it then while saving the rest for a steak salad and a stir fry later. It fits into my calorie goals and helps keep me from feeling deprived, which I definitely would if I ate only boneless skinless chicken breasts!

    Another category to consider: winter is coming up which makes this a great time for squashes, which are filling, high in fiber and vitamin a, and low in calories. Butternut squash is delicious roasted or in chili, and spaghetti squash is good as a side dish or as a substitute for pasta.

    Best of luck to you! There's no need to figure everything out on the first day. You can make a few changes at a time and tweak as you learn more about what works for you.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    but not before i have my piece of chocolate.

  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,486 Member
    edited October 2017
    tyrindor wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    Eat enough of this to make up the calories 1500-1700 MFP gave you to lose weight. Absolutely no need to use a Meal Replacement Shake especially if you are under eating. And the consuming it 40 minutes after exercise is not necessary either. You can get all your protein through food by eating the protein sources you listed in your OP.

    I've started to drink them with meals on some days to fulfill my protein needs, and help me get closer to 1500-1700 calories a day. I like how they taste, and they fulfill my cravings for chocolate.
    It looks like a good selection of foods to me. If you are lacking in calories, use full fat milk instead of skim. Use regular dressing instead of light ranch. Cook the meat in some butter or oil, and drizzle the vegetables with same. I'd probably prefer sweet potatoes and legumes over regular potatoes for a starch, but that's just personal preference.

    Great ideas, thanks. Should help me get some more "fat" in the diet too, since I wasn't getting enough of that either according to the site.
    Are these the foods you most enjoy and want to eat? Do you like cooking these foods? There's nothing wrong with this list except that it's a little bit boring. If it helps you to eat a boring diet, that's great. If it helps you to eat more variety, do that instead. The best diet is the one you stick to long term.

    I picked these based on foods I like. I find if I have even 1 serving of something I REALLY like (pizza, etc), it becomes very hard to maintain my diet. It's easier for me to just cut them out of my life completely.

    Right now I have a frozen stuffed crust pizza STARING me down in the freezer. I can't control myself when it comes to that stuff, and I am in the process of just giving this stuff to friends/family so I am not tempted.

    Based on your responses.. It sounds like you have invented a plan you are willing to stick with and have worked out all the basics on what is needed to lose weight and how you will handle maintenance as well. Best of luck!
  • fuzzylop72
    fuzzylop72 Posts: 651 Member
    edited October 2017
    tyrindor wrote: »
    I'm trying to get everything unhealthy out of the house, and ordering only select things that are easy to count calories. I plan to more or less remove everything from the house that is not on this list. Looking to lose ~90 pounds and currently 5 pounds in.

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    Nutritional adequacy on anything other than a vlcd is usually pretty easy to reach, though, so I don't think you should feel you need to pursue something so extreme.
  • batorkin
    batorkin Posts: 281 Member
    edited October 2017
    I admire the confidence of someone who lost 5 lbs and has 85 left to go!
    Your food choices look top notch of course, but make sure you do not undereat.
    Maintenance from my experience has been more difficult than losing, despite the few hundred extra calories.

    Can you handle tuna? Its super low calories and pack a good protein hit.

    What do you do for exercise? Weight training?

    40 minutes on my elliptical before work. I will likely add some weight training after losing the majority of the weight and rotate it daily with cardio (doctor's advice).

    I like Tuna, but usually only on sandwiches. I hate wheat bread, and my doctor told me to stay away from white bread, so I kinda just removed bread from my life.

    After losing 30 pounds previously, it took me nearly 5 years (of very unhealthy eating) to get back up to my previous weight. Then I just kept going and another 5 years, I gained doubled what I loss. Never letting that happen again. I have a very good metabolism (so maybe that's why I think maintaining is easy), the problem is I was eating about 3 whole pizzas a day and munching on chips every second in-between. I also work at a desk job, so I live a very stationary lifestyle. My doctor was amazed that I wasn't triple my current weight with how many calories a day I was consuming, about 5000-6000 a day, but I was only going up about half pound a month.
    OP, for what it's worth, chocolate is not an unhealthy food. Dark chocolate in particular contains a surprising amount of fiber and iron, plus antioxidants, and not too many calories. It's worth working it into your diet, especially if it helps you avoid feeling deprived. And for me at least, a small piece of top quality chocolate doesn't make me crave more, because the flavor is more intense and less sweet than milk chocolate.

    Sadly, I hate dark chocolate. :(

    I would rather eat almost anything else, including fruits/veggies. I love white and milk chocolate but those just seem flat out bad for you?
    Nutritional adequacy on anything other than a vlcd is usually pretty easy to reach, though, so I don't think you should feel you need to pursue something so extreme.

    Thanks for the advice, the main reason I just don't want the stuff around is because I can't control myself. If there's something unhealthy that taste really good in the house, I eat it. Then an hour later I find something else and eat that too. These aren't small proportions either! I'll eat an entire pizza and then eat an entire boxed family meal. This repeats throughout the day. I have a serious food addiction, and my doctor recommended removing them from my life/house entirely. As long as they aren't near me or in the house, the cravings are greatly reduced.

  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    tyrindor wrote: »
    I admire the confidence of someone who lost 5 lbs and has 85 left to go!
    Your food choices look top notch of course, but make sure you do not undereat.
    Maintenance from my experience has been more difficult than losing, despite the few hundred extra calories.

    Can you handle tuna? Its super low calories and pack a good protein hit.

    What do you do for exercise? Weight training?

    40 minutes on my elliptical before work. I will likely add some weight training after losing the majority of the weight and rotate it daily with cardio (doctor's advice).

    I like Tuna, but usually only on sandwiches. I hate wheat bread, and my doctor told me to stay away from white bread, so I kinda just removed bread from my life.

    After losing 30 pounds previously, it took me nearly 5 years (of very unhealthy eating) to get back up to my previous weight. Then I just kept going and another 5 years, I gained doubled what I loss. Never letting that happen again. I have a very good metabolism (so maybe that's why I think maintaining is easy), the problem is I was eating about 3 whole pizzas a day and munching on chips every second in-between. I also work at a desk job, so I live a very stationary lifestyle. My doctor was amazed that I wasn't triple my current weight with how many calories a day I was consuming, about 5000-6000 a day, but I was only going up about half pound a month.
    OP, for what it's worth, chocolate is not an unhealthy food. Dark chocolate in particular contains a surprising amount of fiber and iron, plus antioxidants, and not too many calories. It's worth working it into your diet, especially if it helps you avoid feeling deprived. And for me at least, a small piece of top quality chocolate doesn't make me crave more, because the flavor is more intense and less sweet than milk chocolate.

    Sadly, I hate dark chocolate. :(

    I would rather eat almost anything else, including fruits/veggies. I love white and milk chocolate but those just seem flat out bad for you.

    Well, if you'd rather eat a bug, there's no need to eat it! ;)

    I had a mini Snickers bar this morning - 42 calories and 5 g carbs - from the candy we bought for Halloween. But I completely understand going cold turkey because it's just too difficult to moderate certain foods.

    The nutritional difference between white and wheat bread is almost nothing. But if you want to avoid bread and keep sandwiches, the humble lettuce wrap is your friend. I also use cabbage leaves and nori for wraps.
  • batorkin
    batorkin Posts: 281 Member
    edited October 2017
    OP, I know folks are being coarse, but it's bc we've seen your mentality 1000 times before and it usually is the mantra of people who start really strong but fall off the wagon quickly when they have one "bad" food/meal/day and it takes a long time for them to get that motivation back.
    I am much the same mentality as you, I understand the aversion to problem foods for you. Any ooey gooey comfort food can make me crazy, sweets I can keep in the house and not feel tempted by. I do urge you to not close your mind completely to learning how to adapt foods you love to a lower cal and healthier version, and how to be satisfied with smaller portions of "problem" foods. If it's just pizza you plan to never eat again, that's difficult enough, but you've ruled out the majority of foods that exist. My unqualified opinion is that it would be helpful down the road when this journey isn't new anymore to be open-minded.
    Anyhoo, I'd love to support you as you go and I keep my diary open, and share recipes (when I think of it) so if you'd like to add me I'll accept!

    Thanks. I don't mind people being coarse as long as it's constructive and mature, which everyone has been (minus 1).

    I will probably expand this diet further down the road as I find more healthy foods I enjoy. I don't really enjoy many healthy foods so even this small list took me awhile.
    Well, if you'd rather eat a bug, there's no need to eat it! ;)

    I had a mini Snickers bar this morning - 42 calories and 5 g carbs - from the candy we bought for Halloween. But I completely understand going cold turkey because it's just too difficult to moderate certain foods.

    The nutritional difference between white and wheat bread is almost nothing. But if you want to avoid bread and keep sandwiches, the humble lettuce wrap is your friend. I also use cabbage leaves and nori for wraps.

    Oh boy I almost forgot Halloween was almost here.. what a terrible time to start dieting! Haha... I love Snickers, but when I have one I will have another and another and another until I feel like puking. I just can't be around that stuff.

    I will look into lettuce wraps, as I love sandwiches and really wanted to keep them in my diet.




  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    tyrindor wrote: »
    As far as I can tell I am vastly under eating. 800-1100 calories a day, and the website wants me to eat about 1500-1700 calories to lose 2 pounds a week.

    Eat more.

    How tall are you and how much do you weigh?

    You should only be aiming to lose 2 lbs a week if you are extremely overweight.

    No matter what you weigh, if you're 700-900 calories under MFP's recommendation, you are doing it badly wrong.
  • batorkin
    batorkin Posts: 281 Member
    edited October 2017
    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    I'd suggest a visit to a registered dietitian to get some more advise on your plan forward with weight loss and maintenance. From what you have posted you are severely restricting your food choices and underesting. Also, labelling food as healthy and unhealthy can lead to problems with your relationship to food. Nothing is unhealthy in moderation, unless there is a medical reason to avoid that particular food.

    I will expand the diet as I find more food I like + isn't bad for me, mainly just wanting to make sure I am getting off on the right foot.

    I have no moderation when it comes to extremely good tasting food, so I guess that's my reason to avoid it entirely. ;)
  • maryannprt
    maryannprt Posts: 152 Member
    If you're concerned about getting enough calories, think about adding a few nuts to your oatmeal or salad (in addition to your snack of nuts) do you not like yogurt or cottage cheese? I mostly use 2% or full fat rather than no fat. I think the no fat is gross and a little fat helps me feel full longer. Recent studies show saturated fat is ok in moderation. Also you can use a little olive oil when you roast or pan fry your fish or chicken or veg.. If these are the foods you like, go for it. Also whatever fruit or veg is in season I like to try new things when I can. We had delicata squash for the 1st time the other day. Yummy. Also if you can have it in the house without eating the whole thing a little piece of chocolate or some other treat goes a long way. I don't keep chips in the house because I WILL eat them. Chocolate I can do.
  • batorkin
    batorkin Posts: 281 Member
    edited October 2017
    maryannprt wrote: »
    If you're concerned about getting enough calories, think about adding a few nuts to your oatmeal or salad (in addition to your snack of nuts) do you not like yogurt or cottage cheese? I mostly use 2% or full fat rather than no fat. I think the no fat is gross and a little fat helps me feel full longer. Recent studies show saturated fat is ok in moderation. Also you can use a little olive oil when you roast or pan fry your fish or chicken or veg.. If these are the foods you like, go for it. Also whatever fruit or veg is in season I like to try new things when I can. We had delicata squash for the 1st time the other day. Yummy. Also if you can have it in the house without eating the whole thing a little piece of chocolate or some other treat goes a long way. I don't keep chips in the house because I WILL eat them. Chocolate I can do.

    Excellent idea, never thought of that.. Thanks!

    I like yogurt, hate cottage cheese. I've read full fat yogurt is the way to go and might be a way for me to fill the low-fat foods I currently have in this list. I love squash as well, but only when I coat it in butter and cinnamon. :(
    Orphia wrote: »
    tyrindor wrote: »
    As far as I can tell I am vastly under eating. 800-1100 calories a day, and the website wants me to eat about 1500-1700 calories to lose 2 pounds a week.

    Eat more.

    How tall are you and how much do you weigh?

    You should only be aiming to lose 2 lbs a week if you are extremely overweight.

    No matter what you weigh, if you're 700-900 calories under MFP's recommendation, you are doing it badly wrong.

    Male, 6'1 and 256 pounds. Doctor said he'd like to see me at 165-170 (though I think those numbers assume very little muscle mass?).
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