Hangover eating ruining everything!
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I've been thinking about this thread awhile. I drink alcohol maybe once a year so it is easy for me to say don't get hungover.
You have to decide for yourself that a behavior is something you want to alter. If you choose to drink less or no alcohol you would certainly adjust.
When I got serious about losing weight I thought about where my calories came from and decided calories from drinks were so unsatisfying. So I moved to mostly drinking water or unsweetened tea. I rarely have soda pop, hot chocolate, milk, etc. And it is fine. Every once in awhile I drink something else but not too often.
Years ago I didn't like how caffeine made me feel so I limited my intake. And I adjusted no matter what others were doing.1 -
sorchaedwards1991 wrote: »Hi there
I'm so good with my diet 6 days of the week and aim for 1400 calories maximum a day and exercise 4 times a week. I've been doing this now for about 2 months and have only lost a couple of pounds if that.
My main problem is when I have a drink - the next day I have no control and eat pretty much anything I want. I then spend the rest of the week living with immense guilt.
I know the obvious answer is not to drink....but how am i supposed to live the rest of my life never having a glass of wine or having a social catch-up with some mates? Does anyone else have this problem?
I would love it if the first thing I wanted to eat on a hangover is an apple but it really isn't.
I welcome all feedback and would like to hear if anyone struggles with anything similar.
First, I'm going to go +1 on drinking plenty of water before, during and after the wine, including next morning. Don't drown, but a couple cups of water before wine, a good-sized glass alongside each glass of wine, a couple glasses after wine before bed, a gulp or two more if you wake up and have to visit the bathroom (heh), then a couple first thing in the morning before eating.
Second, since no one else has, I'm going to go all psych-y on you.
When you say "when I have a drink - the next day I have no control and eat pretty much anything I want. I then spend the rest of the week living with immense guilt.", it seems to me as if you've self-defined yourself into a corner, leaving no room for different behavior. "This is me. This is what I do." It's a script.
Well, no. This is what you've done before. Think of a plausible different script - maybe one of the moderate recovery breakfasts suggested above - and rehearse it in your head several times before the wine drinking. Think of something that will trigger you to play out the new script when you get up. Before the wine, lay out the tools & supplies you need for the new script, pre-prep what you can. Make it super easy and automatic to do the new thing, and difficult, inconvenient or annoying to do the old one.
Next morning, get up, recognize your trigger, run the new script, see how it goes. If it works, swell. If it doesn't, try a different new routine next time. Create change. You have the ability, if you exercise it.9 -
I haven't had a drink of alcohol since January, 1993 and as a consequence, I never have hangovers. I don't miss it, and my life is immeasurably better without it. I drank to excess for 25 years or so, so I know the effects of alcohol well (as well as what I learned taking classes on treating substance problems in grad school). The only people I've seen who had a problem with a single glass of alcohol either never drank before, or had a problem with their livers. My advice is -- be honest with yourself about how much you're drinking, and its impact on your goals. Doesn't matter if you're honest with us or anyone else, but be honest with yourself.12
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I know exactly how you feel since I have the same problem. If I take my drinking night outs out of my life, I end up with pretty boring and pointless life honestly. I also feel like all the diet and exercise that I’ve been doing whole week deserves a celebration.
The bigger problem is what I eat when I hangover as you’ve stated. I recently realized most of the hunger and urge for heartly meal when hangover is caused by dehydration. Now when I wake up with daydreaming of a burger, i chug one litre of water and try to eat something quickly. That kills the urge.
To kill the guilt of drinking, I also force myself to treadmill in the evening even if it’s for half an hour. And next day get back into the diet and the exercise routine. Hope this will help you as much as it does to me.
Cheers.3 -
aydinisitemiz wrote: »I know exactly how you feel since I have the same problem. If I take my drinking night outs out of my life, I end up with pretty boring and pointless life honestly. I also feel like all the diet and exercise that I’ve been doing whole week deserves a celebration.
The bigger problem is what I eat when I hangover as you’ve stated. I recently realized most of the hunger and urge for heartly meal when hangover is caused by dehydration. Now when I wake up with daydreaming of a burger, i chug one litre of water and try to eat something quickly. That kills the urge.
To kill the guilt of drinking, I also force myself to treadmill in the evening even if it’s for half an hour. And next day get back into the diet and the exercise routine. Hope this will help you as much as it does to me.
Cheers.
its really sad that you think life is pointless without alcohol... and then feel guilty doing it... maybe speak to someone as none of that is healthy at all.8 -
aydinisitemiz wrote: »I know exactly how you feel since I have the same problem. If I take my drinking night outs out of my life, I end up with pretty boring and pointless life honestly. I also feel like all the diet and exercise that I’ve been doing whole week deserves a celebration.
The bigger problem is what I eat when I hangover as you’ve stated. I recently realized most of the hunger and urge for heartly meal when hangover is caused by dehydration. Now when I wake up with daydreaming of a burger, i chug one litre of water and try to eat something quickly. That kills the urge.
To kill the guilt of drinking, I also force myself to treadmill in the evening even if it’s for half an hour. And next day get back into the diet and the exercise routine. Hope this will help you as much as it does to me.
Cheers.
I've found (nonrisky!) mild exercise after alcohol before bed to be helpful at times, too. There are safety limits around this, but getting some more of the alcohol out of my system improves sleep and reduces next-day effects. I hope that ample hydration with this exercise is an obvious requirement.2 -
The easy answer is to drink less, but I have the same issue, so I know it’s not that easy. One thing that has helped me is adapting my idea of hang over food. I’ll drink one of those kumbuca teas (60 calores). They are supposed to have electrolytes and probiotics that help. Who cares if it’s true, as long as I believe it, and there’s less calories than a burger or pizza. Might be worth keeping around some light hangover food too. Like a low calorie frozen pizza. Sometimes, you just have to be pragmatic.1
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aydinisitemiz wrote: »I know exactly how you feel since I have the same problem. If I take my drinking night outs out of my life, I end up with pretty boring and pointless life honestly. I also feel like all the diet and exercise that I’ve been doing whole week deserves a celebration.
The bigger problem is what I eat when I hangover as you’ve stated. I recently realized most of the hunger and urge for heartly meal when hangover is caused by dehydration. Now when I wake up with daydreaming of a burger, i chug one litre of water and try to eat something quickly. That kills the urge.
To kill the guilt of drinking, I also force myself to treadmill in the evening even if it’s for half an hour. And next day get back into the diet and the exercise routine. Hope this will help you as much as it does to me.
Cheers.
I've found (nonrisky!) mild exercise after alcohol before bed to be helpful at times, too. There are safety limits around this, but getting some more of the alcohol out of my system improves sleep and reduces next-day effects. I hope that ample hydration with this exercise is an obvious requirement.
like having the uber drop me off at the gate of my complex and walking the half mile home. i actually find this to help, as long as i'm not texting an ex while doing so.10 -
Drinking a lot of alcohol can spike insulin which can end up causing low blood sugar which can then lead to wanting to eat all the things, in addition to the "so freaking what" behavioral disinhibition.2
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I do the same but, not stopping. I drink usually 1 day week at least 6-10 lite beers. My goal when I drink is to get buzzed. Yes, the next day I eat much more than usual. Oh well, don't care. It gets me thru life.3
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As my name implies, I found it necessary to give up wine in order to lose weight. If your pour is indeed 5oz, just cutting out Mon-Weds saves you 720 calories a week to eat filling and nutritionist foods.3
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Maybe you can have the best of both worlds, by planning ahead?
I LOVE breakfast, I love going out for breakfast, and even though I drool all over the various menu items anywhere we go, I always end up ordering what my husband calls 'The Rachael'. It is two eggs, basted, 2 slices buttered rye toast, sausage links and hashbrowns. It's a hangovers dream, and in my opinion, a perfect meal.
If I knew I was going to drink to excess and would want this, I would baste those two eggs with water rather than the butter a restaurant uses, have one slice of unbuttered toast, a chicken sausage link and maybe syracuse salt potatoes with a bit of butter.
Point being - there may be satisfying lighter alternatives to your chosen hangover foods that wouldn't put such a dent in your deficit. Planning is your friend.2 -
TavistockToad wrote: »
its really sad that you think life is pointless without alcohol... and then feel guilty doing it... maybe speak to someone as none of that is healthy at all.
Woah! The guilt is coming from the betrayal to my diet. I am just a fatty trying to lose some weight with a strict diet and exercise. Not an alcoholic. What I was trying to say, it is not too much fun to stay at home and count calories all my life.
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aydinisitemiz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »
its really sad that you think life is pointless without alcohol... and then feel guilty doing it... maybe speak to someone as none of that is healthy at all.
Woah! The guilt is coming from the betrayal to my diet. I am just a fatty trying to lose some weight with a strict diet and exercise. Not an alcoholic. What I was trying to say, it is not too much fun to stay at home and count calories all my life.
Why is it 'stay at home' or 'get shitfaced and eat 6 pizzas'?
These extremes are why people cant stick to their diet.6 -
TavistockToad wrote: »aydinisitemiz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »
its really sad that you think life is pointless without alcohol... and then feel guilty doing it... maybe speak to someone as none of that is healthy at all.
Woah! The guilt is coming from the betrayal to my diet. I am just a fatty trying to lose some weight with a strict diet and exercise. Not an alcoholic. What I was trying to say, it is not too much fun to stay at home and count calories all my life.
Why is it 'stay at home' or 'get shitfaced and eat 6 pizzas'?
These extremes are why people cant stick to their diet.
The same reason it's always 'all whole foods, clean and healthy' or 'all doughnuts all the time.' Because moderation isn't sexy.3 -
sorchaedwards1991 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sorchaedwards1991 wrote: »Hi there
I'm so good with my diet 6 days of the week and aim for 1400 calories maximum a day and exercise 4 times a week. I've been doing this now for about 2 months and have only lost a couple of pounds if that.
My main problem is when I have a drink - the next day I have no control and eat pretty much anything I want. I then spend the rest of the week living with immense guilt.
I know the obvious answer is not to drink....but how am i supposed to live the rest of my life never having a glass of wine or having a social catch-up with some mates? Does anyone else have this problem?
I would love it if the first thing I wanted to eat on a hangover is an apple but it really isn't.
I welcome all feedback and would like to hear if anyone struggles with anything similar.
there's a massive difference between a 'glass of wine' or a 'social drink' and getting so drunk you're hungover.
I have had a hangover once this year, maybe twice max... but i go out socially for drinks at least once a fortnight.
No i honestly feel hungover on 2 glasses of wine. It gets worse with agesorchaedwards1991 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »sorchaedwards1991 wrote: »Hi there
I'm so good with my diet 6 days of the week and aim for 1400 calories maximum a day and exercise 4 times a week. I've been doing this now for about 2 months and have only lost a couple of pounds if that.
My main problem is when I have a drink - the next day I have no control and eat pretty much anything I want. I then spend the rest of the week living with immense guilt.
I know the obvious answer is not to drink....but how am i supposed to live the rest of my life never having a glass of wine or having a social catch-up with some mates? Does anyone else have this problem?
I would love it if the first thing I wanted to eat on a hangover is an apple but it really isn't.
I welcome all feedback and would like to hear if anyone struggles with anything similar.
there's a massive difference between a 'glass of wine' or a 'social drink' and getting so drunk you're hungover.
I have had a hangover once this year, maybe twice max... but i go out socially for drinks at least once a fortnight.
No i honestly feel hungover on 2 glasses of wine. It gets worse with age
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Sorry I’m new to posting. I sympathize regarding a hangover from only a couple of drinks. It is definitely getting worse as I get older (I’m 46). The thing that makes a major difference is what I drink. Expensive and organic wines are absolutely fine. No hangover. Cheap wine is a sure recipe for a sore head. Drinking water during the night helps.2
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Sorry I’m new to posting. I sympathize regarding a hangover from only a couple of drinks. It is definitely getting worse as I get older (I’m 46). The thing that makes a major difference is what I drink. Expensive and organic wines are absolutely fine. No hangover. Cheap wine is a sure recipe for a sore head. Drinking water during the night helps.
The OP is 26!! Big difference. That hangovers are getting "worse" at that age, seems odd to me.0 -
lucerorojo wrote: »Sorry I’m new to posting. I sympathize regarding a hangover from only a couple of drinks. It is definitely getting worse as I get older (I’m 46). The thing that makes a major difference is what I drink. Expensive and organic wines are absolutely fine. No hangover. Cheap wine is a sure recipe for a sore head. Drinking water during the night helps.
The OP is 26!! Big difference. That hangovers are getting "worse" at that age, seems odd to me.
That’s actually around the age when I first started getting hangovers at all, but I’ve had friends who got them a lot younger, and I’ve noticed that I get them more easily as I get older (36 now), but my drinking has not increased, and I never binge drink anymore.1 -
aydinisitemiz wrote: »I know exactly how you feel since I have the same problem. If I take my drinking night outs out of my life, I end up with pretty boring and pointless life honestly. I also feel like all the diet and exercise that I’ve been doing whole week deserves a celebration.
The bigger problem is what I eat when I hangover as you’ve stated. I recently realized most of the hunger and urge for heartly meal when hangover is caused by dehydration. Now when I wake up with daydreaming of a burger, i chug one litre of water and try to eat something quickly. That kills the urge.
To kill the guilt of drinking, I also force myself to treadmill in the evening even if it’s for half an hour. And next day get back into the diet and the exercise routine. Hope this will help you as much as it does to me.
Cheers.
Whoah. You might wanna try some counselling. That is a pretty disturbing view you have there.1
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