Which cardio

Which cardio would you suggest for helping with leepinf body fat off - 20-25 mins on cross trainer or HITT (the body coach)
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  • jjpptt2
    jjpptt2 Posts: 5,650 Member
    I doubt there will be much of a difference. Even if one does end up burning significantly more than the other, that "significantly more" is probably only going to amount to about 50-75 cals (i.e. one might give you 175 cals burned, the other might give 225).

    So in the big picture, it doesn't matter. Neither will matter if your diet/intake isn't where it should be.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Whichever one you like and will stick with.
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    jjpptt2 wrote: »
    I doubt there will be much of a difference. Even if one does end up burning significantly more than the other, that "significantly more" is probably only going to amount to about 50-75 cals (i.e. one might give you 175 cals burned, the other might give 225).

    So in the big picture, it doesn't matter. Neither will matter if your diet/intake isn't where it should be.

    I used to do a 20 minute HITT session when i got home from school and then would go gym that evening and do another 20-25 mins on the eliptical trainer which wasn’t as intense cardio but was 400-500 calories. I heared HITT is better cardio for burning fat but if i am in calorie defecit it shouldnt matter shoult it ?

  • jjpptt2
    jjpptt2 Posts: 5,650 Member
    jjpptt2 wrote: »
    I doubt there will be much of a difference. Even if one does end up burning significantly more than the other, that "significantly more" is probably only going to amount to about 50-75 cals (i.e. one might give you 175 cals burned, the other might give 225).

    So in the big picture, it doesn't matter. Neither will matter if your diet/intake isn't where it should be.

    I used to do a 20 minute HITT session when i got home from school and then would go gym that evening and do another 20-25 mins on the eliptical trainer which wasn’t as intense cardio but was 400-500 calories. I heared HITT is better cardio for burning fat but if i am in calorie defecit it shouldnt matter shoult it ?

    No, it shouldn't. The deficit is what causes fat loss, not one particular exercise vs another.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    If you mean the exercise machine, many of them give over-estimates of calorie burn. I wouldn't assume that it was right.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    I would assume 10 calories per minute to be on the safe side, so about 250 calories.
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    You learned something new in reference to your fitness and diet. Make an adjustment and move on. This is how you make it work long term.

    Don't worry about it!
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    What do you mean by that? Cardio's benefits for fitness aren't limited to sessions with high calorie burn.
  • cbohling1987
    cbohling1987 Posts: 99 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then


    You will still make progress so long as your intake is less than your expenditure, and even if the elliptical isn't burning as many calories as you might hope, it's still good for your overall stamina. There is no reason to stop.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    edited November 2017
    OP do you struggle with decision making in every day life or is it just that you're massively overthinking in a bid to diet the 'right' way?
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    OP do you struggle with decision making in every day life or is it just that you're massively overthinking in a bid to diet the 'right' way?

    Harsh.
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    What do you mean by that? Cardio's benefits for fitness aren't limited to sessions with high calorie burn.

    Because if i plan mymeals and then put my cardio in then i am in a calorie defecit. But if the cardio calories are burned are not accurate i may no longer actually be in a defecit without realising
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    edited November 2017
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    I did the math. If you can work out at an intensity that burns 1,500 calories per hour, you're going to win the Tour de France next summer. And that's not even consider the time you lost to rest intervals. Cardio machines are well known for reporting "vanity calories."
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    ryenday wrote: »
    OP do you struggle with decision making in every day life or is it just that you're massively overthinking in a bid to diet the 'right' way?

    Harsh.

    I just want my results so badly
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    OP do you struggle with decision making in every day life or is it just that you're massively overthinking in a bid to diet the 'right' way?

    I just want results so badly and have been trying for ages but still look terrible! I constantly feel negative about my body and the way i look

  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    I did the math. If you can work out at an intensity that burns 1,500 calories per hour, you're going to win the Tour de France next summer. And that's not even consider the time you lost to rest intervals. Cardio machines are well known for reporting "vanity calories."

    Which is misleading towards peoples goals
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    What do you mean by that? Cardio's benefits for fitness aren't limited to sessions with high calorie burn.

    Because if i plan mymeals and then put my cardio in then i am in a calorie defecit. But if the cardio calories are burned are not accurate i may no longer actually be in a defecit without realising

    This is why many people don't rely on cardio alone to create a deficit -- they plan their meals to create all or part of the deficit they need.
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    edited November 2017
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    What do you mean by that? Cardio's benefits for fitness aren't limited to sessions with high calorie burn.

    Because if i plan mymeals and then put my cardio in then i am in a calorie defecit. But if the cardio calories are burned are not accurate i may no longer actually be in a defecit without realising

    I'd encourage you to start by planning your deficit into your daily eating... THEN, plan additional feeding to fuel your exercise.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    I did the math. If you can work out at an intensity that burns 1,500 calories per hour, you're going to win the Tour de France next summer. And that's not even consider the time you lost to rest intervals. Cardio machines are well known for reporting "vanity calories."

    Which is misleading towards peoples goals

    Yep. That's what most people want. Losing with takes time and effort. Most people don't want to spend time and effort, then want to exercise for 20 minutes and be told they're awesome.

    Most machines don't know how many calories you've burned. There are some exercises that are easy to ballpark (like walking and running), some that can be measured actually (cycling, rowing), and many that are anybody's guess.
  • jjpptt2
    jjpptt2 Posts: 5,650 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    The progress you make will be 99% based on your diet, NOT your exercise, as you said before. If you are in a deficit, you will make progress.
  • collectingblues
    collectingblues Posts: 2,541 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    So eat less?
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    So eat less?

    Can i still lose weight on a like 200 calorie defecit ?? Does it have to be a massive defecit? Im not particularly large as you can see my abs just trying to get them to bemore defined ?

  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    So eat less?

    Can i still lose weight on a like 200 calorie defecit ?? Does it have to be a massive defecit? Im not particularly large as you can see my abs just trying to get them to bemore defined ?

    What are your stats? If you are already very lean and can't see your abs, putting on muscle can help. If you have a bit of weight to lose, the small deficit is fine. Weight training and getting adequate protein help too to retain muscle.
  • hattieandoscar
    hattieandoscar Posts: 62 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    So eat less?

    Can i still lose weight on a like 200 calorie defecit ?? Does it have to be a massive defecit? Im not particularly large as you can see my abs just trying to get them to bemore defined ?

    What are your stats? If you are already very lean and can't see your abs, putting on muscle can help. If you have a bit of weight to lose, the small deficit is fine. Weight training and getting adequate protein help too to retain muscle.

    Thank you for your help !

  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    So eat less?

    Can i still lose weight on a like 200 calorie defecit ?? Does it have to be a massive defecit? Im not particularly large as you can see my abs just trying to get them to bemore defined ?

    Any deficit will result in a weight loss. A deficit is simply eating less than your body is using over time. Smaller deficits result in slower weight loss, but you'll still lose weight.
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    Nobody burns 500 calories in 20 minutes. Such wild overestimates can erase your deficit for the whole day!

    Are you sure ?? Thats what the machine says after 25 mins? Omg that has made me stressed now as i have planned all my meals and that means im probs not making progress

    It's just barely within the realm of possible, but is so wildly unlikely as to be identified as impossible.

    So i wont be making much progress then

    So eat less?

    Can i still lose weight on a like 200 calorie defecit ?? Does it have to be a massive defecit? Im not particularly large as you can see my abs just trying to get them to bemore defined ?

    What are your stats? If you are already very lean and can't see your abs, putting on muscle can help. If you have a bit of weight to lose, the small deficit is fine. Weight training and getting adequate protein help too to retain muscle.

    Thank you for your help !

    No problem. And I just noticed you are female. Having abs as a woman can be very difficult to achieve. Having a good muscle base is so important, otherwise at leaner levels the frame may look more skeletal than muscular/fit.