Apple cider vinegar
CissyGB
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What are your thoughts? Anyone taking this daily? Has it helped in overall health, weight loss, etc?
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It isn't going to do anything for weight loss or overall health (although some people have reported it helps manage specific conditions like acid reflux).3
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This weight loss myth has been around since the 1970's at least. It didn't work then either.
Be careful if you decide to "take this daily".....it's very hard on tooth enamel.3 -
Does nothing for weight loss2
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CissyGB - Look at the menu items above your post. On the right you'll see Search. If you click on it and search for "apple cider vinegar", you'll find many many threads started about this topic. My grandmother believed in this back in the 1960s - and it was no more effective for weight loss then than it is now. If it were, you wouldn't have all these fad diets and programs like Weight Watchers and Nutrisystems; people would just buy a bottle of vinegar.3
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Based on personal experience, apple cider vinegar did nothing for my health or weight loss. The one time I tried it as an "acid reflux remedy," the heartburn became 10x worse.0
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Does help with gout and for some, it does help with acid reflux. A co-worker cured his acid reflux and stopped taking meds using it. If it does help with weight loss, any benefits can be overcome by eating too much. I do think it may help some but it isn't going to be the only thing a person needs to do to lose weight. It can hurt your teeth so rinse your mouth after you use it. If you do take it, mix with water or some juice, chase with some water.9
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I use a straw to prevent it getting to my teeth. I have read that it helps stabilize blood sugar, which is why I take it as one small part of my overall eating plan.
See for example https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-proven-health-benefits-of-apple-cider-vinegar#section411 -
TenderBlender667 wrote: »Based on personal experience, apple cider vinegar did nothing for my health or weight loss. The one time I tried it as an "acid reflux remedy," the heartburn became 10x worse.
Some of us have high stomach acid (raises hand) - for us ACV makes reflux much worse. But I had a co-worker who drank lemonade with her meals because she suffered from LOW stomach acid.
There have been zero scientific studies re: ACV as a gout remedy. It would have been nice though, as I have 2 brothers who suffer from it.1 -
TenderBlender667 wrote: »Based on personal experience, apple cider vinegar did nothing for my health or weight loss. The one time I tried it as an "acid reflux remedy," the heartburn became 10x worse.
Some of us have high stomach acid (raises hand) - for us ACV makes reflux much worse. But I had a co-worker who drank lemonade with her meals because she suffered from LOW stomach acid.
There have been zero scientific studies re: ACV as a gout remedy. It would have been nice though, as I have 2 brothers who suffer from it.
I've got many personal data points where it helped. Lots of others claim the same.
Here is a study on preventing obesity in rats: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27209492
This article (https://www.healthline.com/health/gout/apple-cider-vinegar#modal-close) has a lot of references that say it may help with cancer prevention, diabetes, and the one above. It did not support help with gout.12 -
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I hope you have a hard hat, there is a prejudice against acv on here.
Its good to help keep digestive acids strong, to generalise the modern diet is low on bitter tasting foods which are needed for different things. It is a fallacy that all digestive problems come from high acid levels. ACV, helps those who need to, to balance their digestive microbes, also frowned on, on here.
I know someone who's asthma benefited, the change to the unconvinced was noticeable but they preferred to be ill, so stopped as night followed day...............................
UK lemonade would do nothing for stomach acid.16 -
TenderBlender667 wrote: »Based on personal experience, apple cider vinegar did nothing for my health or weight loss. The one time I tried it as an "acid reflux remedy," the heartburn became 10x worse.
Some of us have high stomach acid (raises hand) - for us ACV makes reflux much worse. But I had a co-worker who drank lemonade with her meals because she suffered from LOW stomach acid.
There have been zero scientific studies re: ACV as a gout remedy. It would have been nice though, as I have 2 brothers who suffer from it.
I've got many personal data points where it helped. Lots of others claim the same.
Here is a study on preventing obesity in rats: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27209492
This article (https://www.healthline.com/health/gout/apple-cider-vinegar#modal-close) has a lot of references that say it may help with cancer prevention, diabetes, and the one above. It did not support help with gout.
We're not rats.1 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »TenderBlender667 wrote: »Based on personal experience, apple cider vinegar did nothing for my health or weight loss. The one time I tried it as an "acid reflux remedy," the heartburn became 10x worse.
Some of us have high stomach acid (raises hand) - for us ACV makes reflux much worse. But I had a co-worker who drank lemonade with her meals because she suffered from LOW stomach acid.
There have been zero scientific studies re: ACV as a gout remedy. It would have been nice though, as I have 2 brothers who suffer from it.
I've got many personal data points where it helped. Lots of others claim the same.
Here is a study on preventing obesity in rats: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27209492
This article (https://www.healthline.com/health/gout/apple-cider-vinegar#modal-close) has a lot of references that say it may help with cancer prevention, diabetes, and the one above. It did not support help with gout.
We're not rats.
Nope we are not (maybe with the exception of my cousin Loui!
), but it is interesting and MAY be applicable to us. Other studies in the references were on humans. 6 -
TenderBlender667 wrote: »Based on personal experience, apple cider vinegar did nothing for my health or weight loss. The one time I tried it as an "acid reflux remedy," the heartburn became 10x worse.
Some of us have high stomach acid (raises hand) - for us ACV makes reflux much worse. But I had a co-worker who drank lemonade with her meals because she suffered from LOW stomach acid.
There have been zero scientific studies re: ACV as a gout remedy. It would have been nice though, as I have 2 brothers who suffer from it.
Just because there are not studies doesn't mean it doesn't work either!9 -
What are your thoughts? Anyone taking this daily? Has it helped in overall health, weight loss, etc?
if you have hunger cravings because of yo-yoing blood sugar a little on the spot might work but i don't think i'd do it every day unless you really need it each day or just like the taste.5 -
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What are your thoughts? Anyone taking this daily? Has it helped in overall health, weight loss, etc?
No, it doesn't generically help with health or cause weight loss. Some have specific issues where it might be helpful, or worth a try, but I never had any of those issues so haven't tried it for that.
It's one of many fermented foods that could be helpful to the gut biome (eating a healthful diet overall is more significant, focusing on having a bit of ACV is definitely missing the forest for the trees if one does not have a good diet and make sure calories are on point and so on). I would never personally consume ACV on its own, as if it were medicine, but I love fermented foods and vinegars and use it in my cooking.
There's nothing special about ACV, for the record -- the benefit (as a fermented food) is the presence of the live culture, which could exist in any vinegar (although ACV is more often sold that way). You can make your own, too.4 -
I hope you have a hard hat, there is a prejudice against acv on here.
Its good to help keep digestive acids strong, to generalise the modern diet is low on bitter tasting foods which are needed for different things. It is a fallacy that all digestive problems come from high acid levels. ACV, helps those who need to, to balance their digestive microbes, also frowned on, on here.
I know someone who's asthma benefited, the change to the unconvinced was noticeable but they preferred to be ill, so stopped as night followed day...............................
UK lemonade would do nothing for stomach acid.
how did it benefit their asthma? its a lung disease. my digestive issues come from a genetic defect as well as high acid.3 -
The BBC programme " Trust me I'm a Doctor,"at the start of the year did identify one aspect which was not present on ordinary vinegars. Fermented foods are fine for those who are able to eat them, no everyone has a system which is able to conform to the regularly accepted Norm.
To address the above comment. I have absolutely no idea how it worked scientifically, only that something had improved and was observed by a third party and reported. The first person was seen to be breathing more easily! I know because I was providing the meals for that person that this was the only change in their diet.
If someone finds a grannies remedy reference, tries it and for them it addresses the issue for which they were looking for a resolution of, then that is sufficient in my view for that person. The use of ACV was recommended to be tried dilute in that specific circumstance. It may work for one but not others. There are many contributory causes to asthma, one is infectious so it may have worked as an antimicrobial, speculation as the reference takn up suggested. I'm well aware of the hay fever/asthma genetic predisposition.
I'm not saying for everyone to go out and try this, obviously a person knows their own body best, for you it would be the height of, the word escapes me. One does one's own thinking.7 -
It's a great German coleslaw dressing, when mixed with equal parts sugar and grapeseed oil, some celery seed and dry mustard, heated and then poured over your cabbage.7
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extra_medium wrote: »
No it doesn't. It can help but still be overcome is not inconsistent.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »What are your thoughts? Anyone taking this daily? Has it helped in overall health, weight loss, etc?
No, it doesn't generically help with health or cause weight loss. Some have specific issues where it might be helpful, or worth a try, but I never had any of those issues so haven't tried it for that.
It's one of many fermented foods that could be helpful to the gut biome (eating a healthful diet overall is more significant, focusing on having a bit of ACV is definitely missing the forest for the trees if one does not have a good diet and make sure calories are on point and so on). I would never personally consume ACV on its own, as if it were medicine, but I love fermented foods and vinegars and use it in my cooking.
There's nothing special about ACV, for the record -- the benefit (as a fermented food) is the presence of the live culture, which could exist in any vinegar (although ACV is more often sold that way). You can make your own, too.
That's not what the studies I referenced said. I don't think it has to be ACV either and other vinegars would be similar.2 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »
The references I gave said it helped reduce hunger, helped with insulin sensitivity, and also reduced post meal blood glucose spikes.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
The references I gave said it helped reduce hunger, helped with insulin sensitivity, and also reduced post meal blood glucose spikes.
I'm missing the part in that article where it says it does any of that for humans. It cites a couple of studies that it says "could" do or "suggests" it might do so for rats. Is that what you're referring to?4 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »What are your thoughts? Anyone taking this daily? Has it helped in overall health, weight loss, etc?
No, it doesn't generically help with health or cause weight loss. Some have specific issues where it might be helpful, or worth a try, but I never had any of those issues so haven't tried it for that.
It's one of many fermented foods that could be helpful to the gut biome (eating a healthful diet overall is more significant, focusing on having a bit of ACV is definitely missing the forest for the trees if one does not have a good diet and make sure calories are on point and so on). I would never personally consume ACV on its own, as if it were medicine, but I love fermented foods and vinegars and use it in my cooking.
There's nothing special about ACV, for the record -- the benefit (as a fermented food) is the presence of the live culture, which could exist in any vinegar (although ACV is more often sold that way). You can make your own, too.
That's not what the studies I referenced said. I don't think it has to be ACV either and other vinegars would be similar.
So if I feed my rat a very high fat diet (causing him harm) I can help him overcome this harm with ACV. Great to know. What exactly does that have to do with me (other than I'm a horrible rat caretaker)?7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
The references I gave said it helped reduce hunger, helped with insulin sensitivity, and also reduced post meal blood glucose spikes.
I'm missing the part in that article where it says it does any of that for humans. It cites a couple of studies that it says "could" do or "suggests" it might do so for rats. Is that what you're referring to?
The references in the article talk about those things.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
The references I gave said it helped reduce hunger, helped with insulin sensitivity, and also reduced post meal blood glucose spikes.
I'm missing the part in that article where it says it does any of that for humans. It cites a couple of studies that it says "could" do or "suggests" it might do so for rats. Is that what you're referring to?
The references in the article talk about those things.
Yes, I read it. That's how I know you're talking about what the results "could show" or "suggest" for rats. It's not even definite for them, let alone humans.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »What are your thoughts? Anyone taking this daily? Has it helped in overall health, weight loss, etc?
No, it doesn't generically help with health or cause weight loss. Some have specific issues where it might be helpful, or worth a try, but I never had any of those issues so haven't tried it for that.
It's one of many fermented foods that could be helpful to the gut biome (eating a healthful diet overall is more significant, focusing on having a bit of ACV is definitely missing the forest for the trees if one does not have a good diet and make sure calories are on point and so on). I would never personally consume ACV on its own, as if it were medicine, but I love fermented foods and vinegars and use it in my cooking.
There's nothing special about ACV, for the record -- the benefit (as a fermented food) is the presence of the live culture, which could exist in any vinegar (although ACV is more often sold that way). You can make your own, too.
That's not what the studies I referenced said. I don't think it has to be ACV either and other vinegars would be similar.
So if I feed my rat a very high fat diet (causing him harm) I can help him overcome this harm with ACV. Great to know. What exactly does that have to do with me (other than I'm a horrible rat caretaker)?
I suppose no animal studies are worth anything then right!? It doesn't prove anything in humans but is a starting point for more investigation.3
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