Plant Based Diet?
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My husband has been eating plant based 1 yr and I have been plant based 4 years. My husband is a weight lifter and since starting has made HUGE gains. I lift and cardio and noticed more energy with my workouts and feeling energized.
High protein go to foods for use (we both work 12hr shifts so on the go protien is a must)
Mission wheat carb-control tortilla with 3 tbsn peanut butter gives 20g+ protein roll it up and eat like a protein bar
Vega protein bar peanut butter flavor 15g protein
Pro Bar peanut butter chocolate flavor 15g protien
Vega performance protein powder mixed with silk protien nut milk and water give almost 50-60g protien
We also love the beyond meat products easy quick meal however you can't microwave them somust cook them at home then reheat for work lunches
My breakfast this morning was 26g protien kite hill yoghurt with nature Valley granola and chia seeds
and 4 strips lightlife smoky tempeh bacon
Let me know if you need more ideas. Add me if you'd like and ypu can see my meals.
Also, look for plant based muscle...or search fb for plant based lifting to get more ideas and see others who make huge gains0 -
Hi, there are actually quite a few plant based athletes on here, myself included.
I always love meeting the newer people because there are so many differing opinions and methods and lifestyles, etc, so welcome to the club.
That said, there are lots of different ways to eat a plant based diet while staying active, and no one way is more right than others.
Good luck on your journey, and if you ever need advice about plant based foods or nutrition, don't hesitate to reach out to some of us on here.
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So, I am thinking of going on a more plant based diet. If you know about this please add the pros and cons below. Also, if you want to join me on this journey also add your weight and goals too we can try it out together!
Any diet can be as healthy or unhealthy as you make it. I'm an omnivore and eat very healthfully...most of my diet is whole foods based...lots of veggies, fruit, whole grains, legumes, lentils, root vegetables, fish 3-4 days per week, poultry, and some beef and pork and healthy fats from plenty of nuts, avocados, and good cooking oils.
An omnivorous diet isn't inherently unhealthy...the SAD is unhealthy because it contains a ton of animal products and is substantially lacking in vegetables and fruits and other whole food nutrition sources. People aren't getting sick because they're omnivores...people are getting sick because they eat the SAD and are lacking in proper nutrition all around.
For what it's worth, I went substantially plant based about 1.5 years ago as an experiment to see if it would "heal" a few things...I didn't feel any better or worse than when I was just eating a well rounded, balanced, nutritious omnivorous diet. I really missed my meat, especially my fish, so I found it to be unsustainable, particularly as I was not getting any kind of benefit in regards to feeling any better or whatever.
I still eat a ton of plants though...6 -
moosmum1972 wrote: »moosmum1972 wrote: »
Oh yes I will continue using this app and watch my calorie intake as well.
You need to do more research than watching fear mongers on Netflix
A TV show isn’t my driving force. Although that show and Rotten were interesting shows, I friends on both a vegetarian & vegan diet and I am thinking of doing this because of my weight and my health. I have been reading up on it and and speaking with people who have also made the change. I was looking for feedback on the pros and cons of a plant based diet not the video. Just want to make sure I make the right decision.
Sadly, you will receive lots of this type of feedback and not just on forums, irl too. I can't really help you with any pros and cons, but I can tell you that it's not a all or nothing thing.
You have your own reasons for wanting to try it, so start slowly, swap out a few animal products for plant based ones and see how you feel?
Simple Happy Kitchen has a great book and some downloadable charts on the different plant based nutrients.
https://www.simplehappykitchen.com/protein-calcium-iron/
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The book “The Starch Solution” is free on DrMcDougall.com. I am home with the flu watching all kinds of videos on YouTube and feel like this may Be this missing link in weight loss for me. We will find out next week when I have implemented this for a while. What he mentions that keeps sticking with me is: “The fat you eat, is the fat you wear!” I eat a bit of prepared foods from Freezer aisle and they are all fat. I use vegan butter and vegan mayo. These are the things that fill me up in conjunction with a very good amount of fresh produce. But, what I have been doing over and over is watching carb intake, pastas, rice, potatoes, and corn, LIGHTBULB MOMENT! This is what The Starch Solution teaches to consume to feel satisfied. So if I reduce my fat intake by 15%; 600 calories, I will lose weight and not feel deprived. He encourages small amounts of sugar and salt, if needed, so you don’t give up on this, as we eat more fat than we realize. The salt and sugar are to keep things palatable. Cooking with no fats! Need a good ceramic frying pan and they suggest one from Amazon. Looking forward to giving this concept a try! It just makes so much sense when you look at the generations before us that lived on things like potatoes, rice, or corn as a mainstay and none of those people (think Asian or native Americans) were obese, primarily on plants.13
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They didn't mention pemmican?
Dietary fat doesn't make you fat. A calorie surplus makes you fat.2 -
happyfitr2d2 wrote: »What he mentions that keeps sticking with me is: “The fat you eat, is the fat you wear!”
Except fats don't make you fat. Excess calories do.3 -
MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »happyfitr2d2 wrote: »What he mentions that keeps sticking with me is: “The fat you eat, is the fat you wear!”
Except fats don't make you fat. Excess calories do.
Yup, and too little fat is bad for us: We need it for hormone balance, to help avoid constipation, and more. If we choose, we can get fats from plants, no problem.
Most early humans ate a bunch of plants, sure. Nearly universally, they also ate every bit of meat and/or fish they could kill or catch, including the fat. Exclusively plant-eating aboriginal cultures are very rare . . . but there are some (e.g., people of the arctic) whose traditional diet includes very large amounts of animal/fish fat, at least seasonally.
I strongly suspect that most early cultures avoided obesity by needing to work hard physically to stay alive, and needing to cope more often with food scarcity than surplus.
Humans evolved to be omnivores. Other dietary choices can be rational in modern life, but romanticized fantasy anthropology is not required in order to rationalize them.4 -
I have been moving toward a lacto-ovo pescatarian diet for a while, though I still eat some meat. I have zero interest in moving toward a purely vegan diet. I've known plenty of fat vegetarians, so weight loss should have little to do with the motivation for eating a plant-based diet - whatever the content of one's diet, it's too many calories that make you fat. The main arguments for a more plant based diet in my opinion are ethical and economic, as well as personal health. For me, an ovo-lacto pescatarian diet will be sustainable long term - a vegan diet would not be.1
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Ive returned to a pescatarian lifestyle. Slowly deleting dairy from my diet.
I feel 'lighter' eating fish vs other meats. As far as dairy, Ive noticed huge improvements concerning my year round allergies. Yes, I still take allergy meds daily yet have not had any upper respiratory issues as in years past. (I would have sinus infections/upper respiratory infections, etc every two-four weeks, depending on the season.)
Ive been a huge vegetable/fruit eater all of my life.
Enjoy the journey. Do what works for you.2 -
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MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »happyfitr2d2 wrote: »What he mentions that keeps sticking with me is: “The fat you eat, is the fat you wear!”
Except fats don't make you fat. Excess calories do.
Yup, and too little fat is bad for us: We need it for hormone balance, to help avoid constipation, and more. If we choose, we can get fats from plants, no problem.
I find it so funny when people replay Susan Powter. I suppose not everyone is old enough to remember (although McDougall is and I think he's ripping her off).Most early humans ate a bunch of plants, sure. Nearly universally, they also ate every bit of meat and/or fish they could kill or catch, including the fat. Exclusively plant-eating aboriginal cultures are very rare . . . but there are some (e.g., people of the arctic) whose traditional diet includes very large amounts of animal/fish fat, at least seasonally.
Yep.I strongly suspect that most early cultures avoided obesity by needing to work hard physically to stay alive, and needing to cope more often with food scarcity than surplus.
Humans evolved to be omnivores. Other dietary choices can be rational in modern life, but romanticized fantasy anthropology is not required in order to rationalize them.
And yep.
I respect veganism (and vegetarianism, of course) as ethical choices and totally agree that how humans historically ate doesn't demand that we continue to eat that way, regardless of choice, given that we are now able to make other choices (have the privilege of options).
But the claim that eating meat and cutting starches is why we are fat and that cultures that don't won't get fat (given the lack of scarcity and sedentary lifestyles many have) is as wrong (absurd, really) to me as saying that the reason people get fat is "processed" carbs (meaning white rice, pasta, all bread), which I just read someone saying in another thread.1 -
A friend of mine did this and lost 20 pounds as well did her spouse. Unfortunately, she gained it all back because her mindset implemented it as a diet. Basically deeming it only necessary to reach a particular target weight.
If you’re meaning to make the change permanently than you may find success in this. You also have to take into consideration that there is an obvious change in taste from your regular food palette. If you choose to do this, I highly suggest looking into Vegan support groups for food substitute recommendations.2 -
Nicespice9 wrote: »I'm also going to try a plant based diet. I was pescetarian for 11 years before I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I tried the low carb thing and added back chicken and turkey to my diet. My a1c went from 7.9 to 6.6, but now I have high cholesterol- a problem I never had before. Its disheartening. I have high hopes for the plant based diet improving my health. I'm 225, the heaviest I ever weighed. For 5'3" that puts my bmi at like 40. Anyway, best of luck to those transitioning/beginning.
If you are diabetic, you will still want to keep carbs low. And how are you defining high cholesterol? Are you talking total cholesterol, triglycerides, HDL, LDL?
OP, just make sure your eating is align to your goals. You can definitely do it plant based on non plant based. It just may require more thinking than other methods.2 -
I used to be a vegetarian and was a vegan for 3 years. I have been an omnivore for the last 18 years. (I'm 52). I was veg and vegan in my late 20s early 30s. I was ok with both vegetarian and vegan when I had a rather tranquil life and was able to prepare all my meals. When I moved, changed careers and had to eat out and be on the go, I returned to eating meat. Being a vegan was not sustainable for me--I was eating poorly because I couldn't make my own food. That was nearly 20 years ago and there are more restaurants and also meal delivery services that are vegan. I was veg and vegan for both health and ethical reasons. It came down to either me or the animals, so I had to go with me. I eat meat and fish now but I always buy local and/or humanely raised and organic. My health is good whether I eat meat or not--what has proved problematic for me is weight gain (due to overeating) and stress. You can have a good/healthy diet whether you include meat or not. I don't believe that a vegan diet for me, even when done right (which is hard to do), is healthier than an omnivore diet that is balanced.2
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Ways of eating are just that... ways of eating. Whether taken on for ethical, religious, health, or other issues.
All WoE have the potential to be healthy and unhealthy depending on so many factors.
I heartily agree with the above:Nicespice9 wrote: »I'm also going to try a plant based diet. I was pescetarian for 11 years before I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I tried the low carb thing and added back chicken and turkey to my diet. My a1c went from 7.9 to 6.6, but now I have high cholesterol- a problem I never had before. Its disheartening. I have high hopes for the plant based diet improving my health. I'm 225, the heaviest I ever weighed. For 5'3" that puts my bmi at like 40. Anyway, best of luck to those transitioning/beginning.
If you are diabetic, you will still want to keep carbs low. And how are you defining high cholesterol? Are you talking total cholesterol, triglycerides, HDL, LDL?
OP, just make sure your eating is align to your goals. You can definitely do it plant based on non plant based. It just may require more thinking than other methods.
Eating should align to your goals, especially in a situation where there is a health risk involved. Ultimately, it seems that most want a way of eating that will provide them with optimal health and optimal sustainability.... if this is truly the case, then the way of eating that most aligns with your goals and your health needs would meet that while still varying from individual to individual.
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I switched to plant based last summer..thought it would be hard but was surprisingly easy. Facebook has alot of great pages to help with recipes and questions. https://www.facebook.com/groups/WholeFoodPlantBasedDiet/ is my go to if I have any question and they post new recipes daily. I feel better, look better, am off of my acid reflux medicine. oh and have lost 76 pounds in the last year- about 50 of them since going plant based in July..
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Lemurcat12:
“I find it so funny when people replay Susan Powter. I suppose not everyone is old enough to remember (although McDougall is and I think he's ripping her off).”
Hi Lemurcat12,
I hope you are doing well! Afterall, we all need one another and this thread os a great place to learn. Thanks for inspiring me!
I remember Susan Powter! But McDougall is a medical doctor who has been doing this since the 70’s and treating patients with this concept since the 80’s. He was inspired by the Dr. At Duke University in the 1940’s who treated people with the rice diet.
It makes sense for me, mostly vegetarian and previously vegan to omit oils and fill up on potatoes, corn, brown rice, and brown pasta/ bread with my 5+ a day veggies and fruits. Before I was eating cheese (loaded with fat; not a plant), dark chocolate, red wine, and nuts(full of fat). I will be omitting these for 66+ days and seeing if I can make it a way of life; not just a diet.
I need foods that satieate and before, avoided potatoes, pasta, corn, rice, or at least limited them and found myself cheating with fat laiden foods to fill up.
I don’t have any experience with Dr. McDougall’s plan. I was also eating a lot of Amy’s (fat) and perhaps learning how to cook healthy with potatoes, rice, corn etc will fill me up and not send me running for nuts, cheese, and Amy’s which were filling me with fat. And certainly more sodium.
I will check back here around 4/15; tax day... that’s about 66+ days!
Drmcdougall.com IS worth a look if there’s a hope to reverse or lessen arthritis, diabetes, cholesterol...
It is solely plant based!
I want to stop taking Ibuprofen as I suffer from osteoarthritis. I want to stop taking Clairtin D for chronic sinusitis. I have hypothyroidism and respect that Dr. McDougall doesn’t make any claims to see me off that prescription. Let’s see if this improves my quality of life. Isn’t that why we all are here?
The Starch Solution looks so doable and his wife Mary has excellent videos showing how to eat and teaches some great tips on cooking without oil that I am excited to try! I love seeing his “stars” give testimony to reversing high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes on his videos. I love that they know you are going to crave some sugar and some salt and don’t state you have to totally eliminate it. That would make me give up!
Loved the article on maple syrup here a MyFitnessPal showing all the nutritional benefits of a great sweetner... plant based!
I have a lot to learn and I am excited about the journey!2 -
happyfitr2d2 wrote: »Lemurcat12:
“I find it so funny when people replay Susan Powter. I suppose not everyone is old enough to remember (although McDougall is and I think he's ripping her off).”
Hi Lemurcat12,
I hope you are doing well! Afterall, we all need one another and this thread os a great place to learn. Thanks for inspiring me!
I remember Susan Powter! But McDougall is a medical doctor who has been doing this since the 70’s and treating patients with this concept since the 80’s. He was inspired by the Dr. At Duke University in the 1940’s who treated people with the rice diet.
It makes sense for me, mostly vegetarian and previously vegan to omit oils and fill up on potatoes, corn, brown rice, and brown pasta/ bread with my 5+ a day veggies and fruits. Before I was eating cheese (loaded with fat; not a plant), dark chocolate, red wine, and nuts(full of fat). I will be omitting these for 66+ days and seeing if I can make it a way of life; not just a diet.
I need foods that satieate and before, avoided potatoes, pasta, corn, rice, or at least limited them and found myself cheating with fat laiden foods to fill up.
I don’t have any experience with Dr. McDougall’s plan. I was also eating a lot of Amy’s (fat) and perhaps learning how to cook healthy with potatoes, rice, corn etc will fill me up and not send me running for nuts, cheese, and Amy’s which were filling me with fat. And certainly more sodium.
I will check back here around 4/15; tax day... that’s about 66+ days!
Drmcdougall.com IS worth a look if there’s a hope to reverse or lessen arthritis, diabetes, cholesterol...
It is solely plant based!
I want to stop taking Ibuprofen as I suffer from osteoarthritis. I want to stop taking Clairtin D for chronic sinusitis. I have hypothyroidism and respect that Dr. McDougall doesn’t make any claims to see me off that prescription. Let’s see if this improves my quality of life. Isn’t that why we all are here?
The Starch Solution looks so doable and his wife Mary has excellent videos showing how to eat and teaches some great tips on cooking without oil that I am excited to try! I love seeing his “stars” give testimony to reversing high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes on his videos. I love that they know you are going to crave some sugar and some salt and don’t state you have to totally eliminate it. That would make me give up!
Loved the article on maple syrup here a MyFitnessPal showing all the nutritional benefits of a great sweetner... plant based!
I have a lot to learn and I am excited about the journey!
What's wrong with fats? You need those to absorb certain vitamins.2 -
I eat too much fat. The fat you eat is the fat you wear!14
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