Keto and Intermittent fasting is working!

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  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,754 Member
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    Munchberry wrote: »
    Anti Keto people.

    Calories in . Calories out? How then does this work:

    One month average calorie intake with all things not premeasured and calories specified or weighed. All things recorded on MFP. Calories in:1623. Average daily calorie burn over same month 4724 (per fitbit). Calorie calculator for calories in calories out for my stats(age, weight, ht, activity (3 to 5 days per week activity and I do a lot of activity) to lose a healthy 8 pounds in a month are: 1632 calorie intake. Amount lost on just CICA for said month: 4 pounds on the dot.

    Not. Everyone. Is. The. Same. Do. What Works.

    Stop telling people you know what is best for everyone.

    You lost weight eating less calories than normal? You've got this!
  • _Figgzie_
    _Figgzie_ Posts: 3,506 Member
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    It's great that you are accidentally creating a deficit but your macro split or meal timing doesn't have anything to do with your success.

    +1
  • _Figgzie_
    _Figgzie_ Posts: 3,506 Member
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    toxikon wrote: »
    The initial water weight loss as a result of switching to keto can be a great motivator - but keep in mind it will return as soon as you reintroduce carbs to your diet.

    Keto and IF aren't a magic bullet, but if they're helping you keep at a calorie deficit and you enjoy this way of eating, go for it!

    +1
  • _Figgzie_
    _Figgzie_ Posts: 3,506 Member
    edited February 2018
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    It's all about what makes it easier to stick with it.

    Being consistent is key. If eating meat and eggs keeps you satiated and keeps you in a deficit, right on. If eating rice and potatoes does it for you, cool. Losing weight is different than eating healthy. If you only ate 30 apples in one day, you'd gain weight. If you only ate 2 Big Macs, you'd lose weight.

    I did Keto for awhile and liked how it controlled my cravings. I wanted to be a bit more flexible and allow for whatever food choice I wanted while staying under a weekly deficit. It is very liberating to be able to eat whatever you want but also to know how to manipulate calories on a weekly basis to allow for some freedom here and there.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Azdak wrote: »
    Munchberry wrote: »
    Anti Keto people.

    Calories in . Calories out? How then does this work:

    One month average calorie intake with all things not premeasured and calories specified or weighed. All things recorded on MFP. Calories in:1623. Average daily calorie burn over same month 4724 (per fitbit). Calorie calculator for calories in calories out for my stats(age, weight, ht, activity (3 to 5 days per week activity and I do a lot of activity) to lose a healthy 8 pounds in a month are: 1632 calorie intake. Amount lost on just CICA for said month: 4 pounds on the dot.

    Not. Everyone. Is. The. Same. Do. What Works.

    Stop telling people you know what is best for everyone.

    All of those numbers you quoted are estimates. They have no precision. They cannot be used as evidence of anything.

    You. Lack. A. Fundamental. Understanding. Of. The. Subject.

    +1!
  • jessef593
    jessef593 Posts: 2,272 Member
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    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Munchberry wrote: »
    jessef593 wrote: »
    jazzb9363 wrote: »
    Man, why are people so threatened by the keto way of eating? Telling people to pull their heads out of their a $$es? Are you afraid? People on keto and IF are losing weight and feeling great and you tell them it's not real or not magical? No-one said it's magical. Eating at a calorie deficit isn't magical either. And eating at a calorie deficit never helped me in the past. I just felt deprived. Now, I eat. Good food. Wholesome food, and I don't go hungry. I've lost weight, I've lost inches. My blood sugar came down. My blood pressure came down.

    With a calorie deficit, but still eating carbs, I had high blood pressure, high blood sugar. I became a diabetic. Now, I control my blood sugar without meds. I control my blood pressure without meds. And I need to get my head out of my @$$?! Try again.

    Exactly! I honestly believe the "magical" aspect of Keto is reduction in cravings/hunger. Anyone can lose weight on a calorie restricted diet, but the person that doesn't feel like they want to eat the world and can maintain. Why can't some people just accept that keto works for a lot of people, so to each his own.

    That’s what many people seem to miss. We don’t care that people do it and are glad to to see that something works for people. The reason people get defensive is because people spread misinformation about keto and IF. No matter the diet, it all boils down to the calories.

    With the spread of misinformation people wind up trying these diets and then end up over eating and not losing at all.

    I wholeheartedly support any and all safe diets that allow people to feel good and reach their goals.

    I personally reach all of my goals by doing flexible dieting. I’m currently sitting in camp eating carb loaded chocolate chip cookies. With no detriment to my goals. Not feeling restricted or starved in anyway.

    It isn't all about calories. It is about insulin.

    If you don't care how others lose and keep off weight WHY diss them so hard? Maybe you are the misinformed one. How's calorie restriction working for the vast amount of people out there?

    Wrong. Insulin CANNOT create energy from nothing or make ingested energy just *poof* disappear. So yeah it is all about calories!

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    Yes! You made me blurt out a laugh in public. You guys are amazing. Thanks for the back up. I quite literally just finished reading an article by brad schoenfeld who was bashing the insulin theory.

    I intentionally spike my insulin while in a deficit post workout just in hopes it'll prevent any catabolism. Also bro science ish but I can admit that. Regardless of that I have broken sub 7% bf several times. So something isn't adding up..
  • jessef593
    jessef593 Posts: 2,272 Member
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    ccruz985 wrote: »
    jazzb9363 wrote: »
    Man, why are people so threatened by the keto way of eating? Telling people to pull their heads out of their a $$es? Are you afraid? People on keto and IF are losing weight and feeling great and you tell them it's not real or not magical? No-one said it's magical. Eating at a calorie deficit isn't magical either. And eating at a calorie deficit never helped me in the past. I just felt deprived. Now, I eat. Good food. Wholesome food, and I don't go hungry. I've lost weight, I've lost inches. My blood sugar came down. My blood pressure came down.

    With a calorie deficit, but still eating carbs, I had high blood pressure, high blood sugar. I became a diabetic. Now, I control my blood sugar without meds. I control my blood pressure without meds. And I need to get my head out of my @$$?! Try again.

    I can assure you, we're not afraid. We're aware of how unsustainable this is for the long term for most people. That guy could've said it without being rude though.

    I wasn't being rude. I never said keto didn't work, what I said is the people spreading misinformation as to how it actually works need a reality check. If you find that rude I'm sorry I dnt know what to tell you. I guess I just find different things rude.