How do you date in 2018?
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Carillon_Campanello wrote: »I’m at a loss as to how to start dating again and 2018. It’s been a while since I’ve dated and I don’t understand how following someone on Snapchat or Instagram leads to a relationship.
It’s like people “talk to”, then sleep with, then date someone. How can you start dating someone if you’ve never truly sat down and talk to them and gotten to know them? I’m not someone who sleeps with someone that I barely know.
My Friends and I met a group of guys and one of the guys told me that it felt like I was interviewing him when I was just asking him questions about where he went to school and like his favorite thing to do and stuff like that just making conversation. But then later he messages me wanting to hook up which didn’t make any since.
I don't date. Unless it's putting a label on leftovers. Women are interested in two things...how much money I make...and how much of my time they can occupy...ergo they are interested in me expressly for 2 of my 3 most important resources. Typically a woman wants to know how much money i make within 3 or 4 messages on any given dating platform. It's an interesting experiment. Sometimes I say $50,000 per year...sometimes $150,000 per year. Guess which answer typically receives heightened interest and further engagement. Sometimes even having a second account and talking to the same person simultaneously and giving her one of each. Guess which one she ghosts almost right away every time. Call me what you will for conducting these little social experiments but the truth is revealed in uncomfortable fashions.
My advice. Don't date.
Wow. I’ve never asked any of the guys I’ve dated how much they made. In my opinion it’s none of my business until we get to the stage of sharing bills, or marriage.7 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Dating in 2018? We send dkpix and #*kitten*, then get laughed at to obscurity until we become reclusive hermits and follow thirst traps to send dkpix and #*kitten*.
Answering for a friend.
Still sending Dpix in 2018. Brah???? We all F-bois nowadays. Gotta phone you a Fboi. Doesn't matter if you did the deed or not. Guilty. No need to continue the thirst.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sarcasm doesn’t translate well in text. Still happens tho apparently. Dudes out here eating detergent, fam. I don’t think acting right is on their priority list.2 -
Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
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Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Dating in 2018? We send dkpix and #*kitten*, then get laughed at to obscurity until we become reclusive hermits and follow thirst traps to send dkpix and #*kitten*.
Answering for a friend.
Still sending Dpix in 2018. Brah???? We all F-bois nowadays. Gotta phone you a Fboi. Doesn't matter if you did the deed or not. Guilty. No need to continue the thirst.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sarcasm doesn’t translate well in text. Still happens tho apparently. Dudes out here eating detergent, fam. I don’t think acting right is on their priority list.
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Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
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Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
Why you mad though?
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Just_J_Now wrote: »Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
Why you mad though?
Not mad. People want to know what's on the mind of single men in 2018. That's it. Don't mean to sound harsh. It is what it is. Just being honest. Trust me...some men are very angry. But because their anger is misinterpreted as misogyny in a politically correct world their concerns are laughed at or dismissed...only further exacerbating the anger.
I'm presenting one thought to OP topic on why it's hard to date in 2018. I think this qualifies as one of several legitimate explanations.
Some men are just checking out.2 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
I agree & disagree, you're correct pertaining to the unfair expectations of women; as you mention! However even though I saw "The Red Pill", the main misrepresentation concerning men blaming women; for legal matters' that until women and/or men of color were permitted to even vote, most of these views/laws; were orchestrated by Caucasian men & you still dominate, the political landscape to change this as you always've; yet don't choose to but just complain/blame!2 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
I agree & disagree, you're correct pertaining to the unfair expectations of women; as you mention! However even though I saw "The Red Pill", the main misrepresentation concerning men blaming women; for legal matters' that until women and/or men of color were permitted to even vote, most of these views/laws; were orchestrated by Caucasian men & you still dominate, the political landscape to change this as you always've; yet don't choose to but just complain/blame!
Your expectations of Caucasian men seems awfully high.
Historically, perhaps. But we are dissecting dating in 2018.
And those Caucasian men who control the political landscape today. They don't have dating apps. You realize not all caucasian men are political power weilders? Demographics are changing year to year. And we all deal with that a it comes. But the Red Pill outlines some very true and stark problems men face, yet to most its classified as misogynistic Nazi right wing propaganda.
I don't really want to delve into politics here. We can agree to disagree and be friendly. MFP has some strict policies about politics in the forums.
I just want to reiterate I was giving one point of view that is representative of a lot of MEN...not just Caucasian men...as it pertains to dating these days.0 -
Wow, how did racism get cought up in comments about the opposite sex?
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Expectation kills so much in our society anymore, because reality has been perversely distorted by the media and too many people focus on what's in it for them...constantly.3
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Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
I agree & disagree, you're correct pertaining to the unfair expectations of women; as you mention! However even though I saw "The Red Pill", the main misrepresentation concerning men blaming women; for legal matters' that until women and/or men of color were permitted to even vote, most of these views/laws; were orchestrated by Caucasian men & you still dominate, the political landscape to change this as you always've; yet don't choose to but just complain/blame!
Your expectations of Caucasian men seems awfully high.
Then whom, was within control of the government; when men of color & women, weren't permitted; to vote/be a candidate? Heck even for decades when women had the right to vote, they still weren't allowed to've access to credit; without a man's permission!0 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
I agree & disagree, you're correct pertaining to the unfair expectations of women; as you mention! However even though I saw "The Red Pill", the main misrepresentation concerning men blaming women; for legal matters' that until women and/or men of color were permitted to even vote, most of these views/laws; were orchestrated by Caucasian men & you still dominate, the political landscape to change this as you always've; yet don't choose to but just complain/blame!
Your expectations of Caucasian men seems awfully high.
Then whom, was within control of the government; when men of color & women, weren't permitted; to vote/be a candidate? Heck even for decades when women had the right to vote, they still weren't allowed to've access to credit; without a man's permission!
This question has been asked and answered 1000 times in other forums on other sites. Let's just agree to disagree.1 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
I agree & disagree, you're correct pertaining to the unfair expectations of women; as you mention! However even though I saw "The Red Pill", the main misrepresentation concerning men blaming women; for legal matters' that until women and/or men of color were permitted to even vote, most of these views/laws; were orchestrated by Caucasian men & you still dominate, the political landscape to change this as you always've; yet don't choose to but just complain/blame!
Your expectations of Caucasian men seems awfully high.
Historically, perhaps. But we are dissecting dating in 2018.
And those Caucasian men who control the political landscape today. They don't have dating apps. You realize not all caucasian men are political power weilders? Demographics are changing year to year. And we all deal with that a it comes. But the Red Pill outlines some very true and stark problems men face, yet to most its classified as misogynistic Nazi right wing propaganda.
I don't really want to delve into politics here. We can agree to disagree and be friendly. MFP has some strict policies about politics in the forums.
I just want to reiterate I was giving one point of view that is representative of a lot of MEN...not just Caucasian men...as it pertains to dating these days.
Which's why, I said "legal matters" separately; via women's expectations!0 -
Expectation kills so much in our society anymore, because reality has been perversely distorted by the media and too many people focus on what's in it for them...constantly.
Agree. As well as social media portraying 100% perfect life.
We've lost our way and it's disrupting our thought process.0 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
I agree & disagree, you're correct pertaining to the unfair expectations of women; as you mention! However even though I saw "The Red Pill", the main misrepresentation concerning men blaming women; for legal matters' that until women and/or men of color were permitted to even vote, most of these views/laws; were orchestrated by Caucasian men & you still dominate, the political landscape to change this as you always've; yet don't choose to but just complain/blame!
Your expectations of Caucasian men seems awfully high.
Then whom, was within control of the government; when men of color & women, weren't permitted; to vote/be a candidate? Heck even for decades when women had the right to vote, they still weren't allowed to've access to credit; without a man's permission!
This question has been asked and answered 1000 times in other forums on other sites. Let's just agree to disagree.
I am wondering, how's it plausible to disagree; with the facts but I digress!0 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
Well to be fair I was speaking for myself, someone who isn’t married and has no children has a career takes care of herself. I think I deserve and won’t settle for less. So yes there are not enough quality men in the world! Not saying there isn’t but just less and less.
But I also agree with you, I look for someone that can bring what I bring to the table and men should too... but y’all love to fall in love with looks before all5 -
Carillon_Campanello wrote: »Its hard
I feel as I’ve gotten older dating has become more difficult
Well ...not difficult ,just less quality men
I feel like everyone wants to play around and not really get to know someone.
Less quality women. Want to know where all the good men gave gone. Too many women looking to trade up the second they think a better option comes along. Men are tired of it. Tired of paying child support. Tired of losing half our assets when we get divorced. Tired of dying earlier. Tired of working longer hours only to be publicly flogged as "less quality" ...plenty of good men out here. Many are just opting out.
I blame the slogan..."I won't settle." Which is fine for those with desirable traits, but don't expect 6'2" six pack and making 200k Prince charming to come along and date 100% of the single population. Here's a clue. Those men have the women they want. Those men represent less than 1% of the male population. So be very careful with how you define "quality men". Women were once very angry about having to live up to a "Barbie standard" (and rightfully so to be angry...thats unrealistic)...but we need to start having some realistic expectations and conversations about what makes a quality man.
The end.
Well to be fair I was speaking for myself, someone who isn’t married and has no children has a career takes care of herself. I think I deserve and won’t settle for less. So yes there are not enough quality men in the world! Not saying there isn’t but just less and less.
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Dating in 2018 is really complex, I've been divorced going on 6 years. I am in my 50's and certainly don't look or feel it. My issue is that there isn't a lot of women my age that I would date. I am established, I own my house and vehicles, have a job and have multiple incomes. Most women I meet are looking for a security blanket and to be 100% honest, if you weren't here to help me earn and achieve it then why in the hell would I want you around, especially if you aren't going to contribute to it or be exactly what I want in a woman.2
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