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which is the best diet for overall health and weight loss
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
BS
Yeah you are right - doctors shouldn't stay well read with the latest research
Wow, you think they don't stay up on research? Head in the sand
If she is still touting the standard food pyramid to you I would change your doctor - but hey feel free to pound down that pasta all day long if you like
Because the food pyramid tells you to pound down pasta all day long...give it a rest brah...15 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
BS
Yeah you are right - doctors shouldn't stay well read with the latest research
Wow, you think they don't stay up on research? Head in the sand
If she is still touting the standard food pyramid to you I would change your doctor - but hey feel free to pound down that pasta all day long if you like
"MyPlate" (what replaced the food pyramid in 2011) recommends 30% grains. Even if you think this is high, this hardly represents what I would think of as "pound down that pasta all day long."
I would be more wary of taking advice from someone who thought the food pyramid was still current than I would of someone who suggested 30% grains in my diet.17 -
LOL its the second to the bottom and when you throw vegetables and fruit which is the bottom - the bottom together are massive loaded with sugar
The bottom of what?
The food pyramid was replaced in 2011. While "MyPlate," the replacement" has a bottom, it isn't meant to represent what you should eat the most of. It's more like a pie chart.
It might be helpful if you took some time to make yourself familiar with current nutritional recommendations.14 -
Ummm, the bottom of the pyramid is foundational, which means, most important. Did you mean loaded with carbohydrates? Because vegetables and pasta are both low in sugar.
Besides, the US government has switched to the plate; which gives a big pie slice for the fruits and vegetables. Yaay fruits and vegetables.7 -
Oh noes...fruits and vegetables...
Good *kitten* lord...
ETA: I'd also say that most vegans and people who are otherwise largely plant based are generally in pretty good health...
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Oh noes...fruits and vegetables...
Good *kitten* lord...
Vegetable more than fruits - more fibers - less grains more lean protein
Fruit and grain have fiber too! Not sure how you get all your misinformation.6 -
BTW, the Canadian food guide is a rainbow, which I think is not terribly illustrative. But then it includes the "Eat Well Plate". I find the plate a lot easier to visualize when I am explaining portioning to new dieters.2
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Does the sugar industry benefit from people eating more fruit? How?10
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Bottom line people the sugar industry has paid the right people to convince you fat is bad - why - because there is ALOT of money to be made form producing sugar - but like I said feel free to fill your diet with sugar all you want
No one you're arguing with thinks fat is bad tho. Read the meta-analysis linked. Stop building strawmen12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
BS
Yeah you are right - doctors shouldn't stay well read with the latest research
Wow, you think they don't stay up on research? Head in the sand
If she is still touting the standard food pyramid to you I would change your doctor - but hey feel free to pound down that pasta all day long if you like
"MyPlate" (what replaced the food pyramid in 2011) recommends 30% grains. Even if you think this is high, this hardly represents what I would think of as "pound down that pasta all day long."
I would be more wary of taking advice from someone who thought the food pyramid was still current than I would of someone who suggested 30% grains in my diet.
30% grains and then you throw in fruits and vegetable and you are consuming massive amounts of sugar - you need sugar but not that much
You're moving the goalposts here. Your initial claim was that someone who was following USDA recommendations was someone who would "pound down that pasta all day long." Now that we've established that statement was based in your misunderstanding of what is actually recommended, you're claiming that eating fruits and vegetables alongside those grains will represent a "massive" amount of sugar.
30% grains, 40% vegetables, 10% fruits -- nobody reasonable would claim that this represents a "massive" amount of sugar. Even if I got all the grains from pasta on a 2,000 calorie diet, you know how much sugar is in that? about 2.1 grams. Even if my vegetables include 200 calories of potatoes, that's just another couple grams. A whole large head of cauliflower . . . just 16 grams.
A "massive" amount of sugar? Hardly.12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »LOL its the second to the bottom and when you throw vegetables and fruit which is the bottom - the bottom together are massive loaded with sugar
The bottom of what?
The food pyramid was replaced in 2011. While "MyPlate," the replacement" has a bottom, it isn't meant to represent what you should eat the most of. It's more like a pie chart.
It might be helpful if you took some time to make yourself familiar with current nutritional recommendations.
LOL brother its the roughly the same 75% of your diet comes from fruit vegetable and grains - all of which are sugar heavy
So you finally looked up "MyPlate." Congratulations!
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