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How many carbs is too many? Not keto - just realistic
emalemalie
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I’m trying to drop weight and maintain, and I was living a VERY high carb lifestyle prior to making some changes about a month ago. What is a reasonable carb goal daily? I shoot for 1400 calories (because I’m not very active) and I have no idea how many carbs I should strive for daily. HELP
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MFP gives you 50%. Try that.
If you feel you need more adjust, but do make sure you are getting your nutritional needs met, and enough protein and fats.
Cheers, h.4 -
150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/25 -
150g is the upper limit i should say. Probs aim for 100g.33
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I like to set my fat to the minimum recommended by the RDA, my protein to much higher (a gram per pound of body weight), and my carbs will fall where they may. I tend to like around 130g of carbs per day. It's different for everyone though. Do you like carbs? Do they keep you full?2
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emalemalie wrote: »I’m trying to drop weight and maintain, and I was living a VERY high carb lifestyle prior to making some changes about a month ago. What is a reasonable carb goal daily? I shoot for 1400 calories (because I’m not very active) and I have no idea how many carbs I should strive for daily. HELP
If you're eating so many carbs that you can't reach your minimum protein and fat needs or are having a hard time getting certain nutrients in, then that's too many carbs.9 -
emalemalie wrote: »I’m trying to drop weight and maintain, and I was living a VERY high carb lifestyle prior to making some changes about a month ago. What is a reasonable carb goal daily? I shoot for 1400 calories (because I’m not very active) and I have no idea how many carbs I should strive for daily. HELP
However many carbs you want to eat, feel satiated, and stay at your calorie goal.
Macros are personal preference. Some people find that when they eat a lot of carbs they feel constantly hungry and end up over-eating in response. Others (like me) are satiated by carbs and find eating at around 50% carbs (which for me is @ 200g) we feel great at the right calorie level.
My personal strategy (which I learned here) is to look at the MFP default for protein and fat as minimums to exceed, and let carbs fall where they may. I also strive to hit my fiber goal as well.
To lose weight, the most important number to get right is calories. Good luck!6 -
davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:19 -
davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:
lol does is say that? So funny. Insidious weight gain.6 -
diannethegeek wrote: »emalemalie wrote: »I’m trying to drop weight and maintain, and I was living a VERY high carb lifestyle prior to making some changes about a month ago. What is a reasonable carb goal daily? I shoot for 1400 calories (because I’m not very active) and I have no idea how many carbs I should strive for daily. HELP
If you're eating so many carbs that you can't reach your minimum protein and fat needs or are having a hard time getting certain nutrients in, then that's too many carbs.
This!5 -
davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:
Yeah, whatever works for you, you know so that's fair. It's not my article, but it may (or may not) give the OP some useful information (that's up to her, not us). She asked about carb limits, i provided an article that states these and also gives rationale behind it's conclusions. I provided something, something she requested, and it is open to be refuted by anyone of course. But @bbell1985 snarky comments aren't helpful to anyone- no help to the OP and adds no value to the thread.19 -
I'm a vegetarian. Most of my protein has carbs in it. Typically I'm up around 250-300 grams/day. Still eating healthy and losing weight.13
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Plan around your minimum protein. You can fit in as many carbs around that. Your calorie deficit is your upper limit.7
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I eat around 200g on 1400 calories and thats just what works for me and where I feel my best4
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davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:
Also, the article states immediately beneath the diagram:
"When I say generally that a chronic intake of over 150 grams of carbs can lead to insidious weight gain over a lifetime, I am factoring in the concept that many people are at the effect of a familial genetic predisposition to storing fat easily under the carb paradigm (the 60+% overweight). I am also factoring in the drop in metabolism that happens naturally with age, as well as the fact that PBers don’t NEED to purge and refill glycogen stores every day via exercise. Yes, there are some people (a small percentage of outliers) who might maintain pretty decent body composition at up to 300 grams a day on little exercise. I would bet that they also are selective about the carb sources and do a better job of controlling overall calories, so there’s little excess to store. For most of the population, that 150 mark remains a good average level for maintaining ideal body composition."
So, yeah, the author agrees it isn't a rule for EVERYONE but a general rule for the majority based on his experience. Again, i agree with you that you eating over 150g carbs might not cause you weight gain- whatever works for you.19 -
davidmillar14 wrote: »davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:
Yeah, whatever works for you, you know so that's fair. It's not my article, but it may (or may not) give the OP some useful information (that's up to her, not us). She asked about carb limits, i provided an article that states these and also gives rationale behind it's conclusions. I provided something, something she requested, and it is open to be refuted by anyone of course. But @bbell1985 snarky comments aren't helpful to anyone- no help to the OP and adds no value to the thread.
lmao. I didn't make a snarky comment. I internet laughed out loud.
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davidmillar14 wrote: »davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:
Also, the article states immediately beneath the diagram:
"When I say generally that a chronic intake of over 150 grams of carbs can lead to insidious weight gain over a lifetime, I am factoring in the concept that many people are at the effect of a familial genetic predisposition to storing fat easily under the carb paradigm (the 60+% overweight). I am also factoring in the drop in metabolism that happens naturally with age, as well as the fact that PBers don’t NEED to purge and refill glycogen stores every day via exercise. Yes, there are some people (a small percentage of outliers) who might maintain pretty decent body composition at up to 300 grams a day on little exercise. I would bet that they also are selective about the carb sources and do a better job of controlling overall calories, so there’s little excess to store. For most of the population, that 150 mark remains a good average level for maintaining ideal body composition."
So, yeah, the author agrees it isn't a rule for EVERYONE but a general rule for the majority based on his experience. Again, i agree with you that you eating over 150g carbs might not cause you weight gain- whatever works for you.
Mark Sisson is a former athlete who makes a small fortune selling books and supplements. Not a credible source.
If a person is in a calorie deficit they will lose weight regardless of macro distribution. Despite all the keto popularity, I have yet to see anything near a scientific consensus otherwise.11 -
davidmillar14 wrote: »davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:
Yeah, whatever works for you, you know so that's fair. It's not my article, but it may (or may not) give the OP some useful information (that's up to her, not us). She asked about carb limits, i provided an article that states these and also gives rationale behind it's conclusions. I provided something, something she requested, and it is open to be refuted by anyone of course. But @bbell1985 snarky comments aren't helpful to anyone- no help to the OP and adds no value to the thread.
lmao. I didn't make a snarky comment. I internet laughed out loud.
You provided nothing useful.
That was a little snarky. Maybe.
You cannot be the judge of what is useful unless you are the OP. Your opinion isn't fact, I'm sorry. It was definitely a snarky comment, it came across very patronising and dismissive despite a lack of evidence to refute the article on your part. I get the article might be against your beliefs and you don't like it but again you cannot speak for the OP. If something isn't inline with your beliefs you don't be an *kitten* about it, or maybe YOU do lol, but I'm all for mixed opinions and exchanges of ideas. Ideologies are dangerous things.
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I worked with a diabetic specialist. If you are looking for HEALTH not just weight loss she recommends 30g of carbs max per meal. Carbs are a major factor to increased A1C.18
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davidmillar14 wrote: »davidmillar14 wrote: »davidmillar14 wrote: »150g According to this article, see the diagram near the bottom. Interesting article in it's own right.
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-metabolic-paradigm-shift-fat-carbs-human-body-metabolism/
That's a blog about eating Primal/Paleo.
As far as the diagram, I can say personally I have not experienced "insidious weight gain" eating over 150g of carbs daily. I lost my weight this way and now have been rather effortlessly maintaining for the last two years :drinker:
Yeah, whatever works for you, you know so that's fair. It's not my article, but it may (or may not) give the OP some useful information (that's up to her, not us). She asked about carb limits, i provided an article that states these and also gives rationale behind it's conclusions. I provided something, something she requested, and it is open to be refuted by anyone of course. But @bbell1985 snarky comments aren't helpful to anyone- no help to the OP and adds no value to the thread.
lmao. I didn't make a snarky comment. I internet laughed out loud.
You provided nothing useful.
That was a little snarky. Maybe.
You cannot be the judge of what is useful unless you are the OP. Your opinion isn't fact, I'm sorry. It was definitely a snarky comment, it came across very patronising and dismissive despite a lack of evidence to refute the article on your part. I get the article might be against your beliefs and you don't like it but again you cannot speak for the OP. If something isn't inline with your beliefs you don't be an *kitten* about it, or maybe YOU do lol, but I'm all for mixed opinions and exchanges of ideas. Ideologies are dangerous things.
Oh relax jack7 -
well I have eaten more than 200g of carbs during most of my weight loss phase and lost weight even with a metabolic disorder and a genetic defect where my body cannot process fats and cholesterol properly,all because I was in a deficit. I didnt store fat and if I eat less than 150g of carbs a day I tend to be under my calories and not wanting to eat at all. on the days I ate 150 or less I came in under 1200 calories which if I did all the time would not be healthy for me. not to mention those days my protein levels were really low.
There were days I ate over 300g and still lost weight,for me sure it was slower but I still lost.now if you have a health issue and carbs exacerbate it or causes your blood sugar to be out of control then sure lower them. but for those with my health condition we cant do high amounts of fats so either protein or carbs have to be higher.3
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