VEGANS WELCOME
Ykash27
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HI! Trying to find my vegan pals here. I'm mostly vegan, sometimes have meat once a week as a delicacy.
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I'm not even a vegetarian, much less a vegan, and I find it offensive for someone who eats meat once week ("as a delicacy," no less), to describe himself as "mostly vegan."
That's like saying, "I'm mostly Christian, sometimes go to the weekly Satan worship." Or, "I'm nostly pacificist, sometimes I like to shoot somebody just to watch them die."
Other people's deeply held ethical beliefs aren't fads to be appropriated just so you dilute their meaning and purpose.26 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »I'm not even a vegetarian, much less a vegan, and I find it offensive for someone who eats meat once week ("as a delicacy," no less), to describe himself as "mostly vegan."
That's like saying, "I'm mostly Christian, sometimes go to the weekly Satan worship." Or, "I'm nostly pacificist, sometimes I like to shoot somebody just to watch them die."
Other people's deeply held ethical beliefs aren't fads to be appropriated just so you dilute their meaning and purpose.
I don't know about offensive. But it seems weird.
OP, you're not vegan. You're not even vegetarian.14 -
Plant based since 2017
love being V . I get heaps of recipes from Pinterest and there’s some great cookbooks available online with quick raw vegan recipes and ideas. I love the smith and daughters book , Monami frost’s book , 3 -
Also once you get onto meat alternatives you really don’t even want it (meat) once you learn how bad it is for you. There’s so much more health benefits to plant products. I feel so much healthier and it’s better for the environment.18
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A was almost pregnant once
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Is being MOSTLY VEGAN something like being MOSTLY DEAD?
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kommodevaran wrote: »A was almost pregnant once
Aren't you a guy? Seems to be an apt comparison.lynn_glenmont wrote: »I'm not even a vegetarian, much less a vegan, and I find it offensive for someone who eats meat once week ("as a delicacy," no less), to describe himself as "mostly vegan."
That's like saying, "I'm mostly Christian, sometimes go to the weekly Satan worship." Or, "I'm nostly pacificist, sometimes I like to shoot somebody just to watch them die."
Other people's deeply held ethical beliefs aren't fads to be appropriated just so you dilute their meaning and purpose.
Well said.1 -
Rough crowd! Not all plant based eaters make that decision for the same reason. I eat mostly plant based because I believe it's healthier. But I still use fish sauce in my Thai curries.
I love Isa Chandra Moskowitz. Her recipes are generally easy and delicious. Post Pink Kitchen5 -
Rough crowd! Not all plant based eaters make that decision for the same reason. I eat mostly plant based because I believe it's healthier. But I still use fish sauce in my Thai curries.
I love Isa Chandra Moskowitz. Her recipes are generally easy and delicious. Post Pink Kitchen
There's a difference between describing yourself as "plant based" or "mostly plant based" and "mostly vegan."
There's no assumption of an ethical position in "plant based," while the term "vegan" was coined to describe those who are opposed to animal exploitation. This is why someone describing themselves as vegan while also regularly eating meat (as a "delicacy" or not) is inappropriate.
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Rough crowd! Not all plant based eaters make that decision for the same reason. I eat mostly plant based because I believe it's healthier. But I still use fish sauce in my Thai curries.
I love Isa Chandra Moskowitz. Her recipes are generally easy and delicious. Post Pink Kitchen
If he had said "plant-based," there would be no issue. "Vegan" implies an ethical position.7 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Rough crowd! Not all plant based eaters make that decision for the same reason. I eat mostly plant based because I believe it's healthier. But I still use fish sauce in my Thai curries.
I love Isa Chandra Moskowitz. Her recipes are generally easy and delicious. Post Pink Kitchen
If he had said "plant-based," there would be no issue. "Vegan" implies an ethical position.
And not eating meat once per week as a delicacy. Oh my god I just laughed a little. I needed that.2 -
My protein comes from natural sources. Deer/Turkey/Bear & the fish I catch. 2
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I'm with kaypee65. Bit harsh, guys. Perhaps we can all agree that he just used the wrong choice of wording and let it go? I think anyone that makes an effort to eat mostly vegan (or plant-based or whatever you want to call it) is doing animals and the environment (not to mention their bodies) a HUGE favour. So can we please just give some props instead of criticism?
Also--It might help to bring someone over to veganism (if that's the goal), if say, vegans out there encouraged, rather than discouraged one's efforts.
How many vegans out there actually go cold-turkey vegan?--pardon the pun. but not really
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Hi, I am Plant-based. I will supplement with diary if I am not hitting my calcium, but am trying to build up to 100% plant-based. I am on 1200 cals, so it takes a lot of thought to get all the micronutrients in.3
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yogastrongmama wrote: »I'm with kaypee65. Bit harsh, guys. Perhaps we can all agree that he just used the wrong choice of wording and let it go? I think anyone that makes an effort to eat mostly vegan (or plant-based or whatever you want to call it) is doing animals and the environment (not to mention their bodies) a HUGE favour. So can we please just give some props instead of criticism?
Most of the people who are critiquing the word choice aren't vegan, so I don't know if they would agree that OP deserves huge props for only eating meat once a week. They're more finding it a funny thing, like someone describing themselves as "celibate" when they have sex once a week or something.
As for me (a vegan), I think it's very helpful for overall animal advocacy to have a word that describes opposition to animal exploitation. That's why I usually say something (striving my best for a non-harsh manner) when I see the word used to describe someone who doesn't have an opposition to animal exploitation. I think it's okay for vegans to take different approaches on this issue. I understand that some vegans don't mind when those who choose to engage in animal exploitation describe themselves as vegan, I hope they would also try to understand my point of view and realize that the vegan community can contain us both.9 -
yogastrongmama wrote: »I'm with kaypee65. Bit harsh, guys. Perhaps we can all agree that he just used the wrong choice of wording and let it go? I think anyone that makes an effort to eat mostly vegan (or plant-based or whatever you want to call it) is doing animals and the environment (not to mention their bodies) a HUGE favour. So can we please just give some props instead of criticism?
Also--It might help to bring someone over to veganism (if that's the goal), if say, vegans out there encouraged, rather than discouraged one's efforts.
How many vegans out there actually go cold-turkey vegan?--pardon the pun. but not really
I don't want to be less harsh.8 -
Feel free to friend me. I try to be vegan for ethical, environmental reasons but screw up. No criticism, just doing the best I can.4
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yogastrongmama wrote: »I'm with kaypee65. Bit harsh, guys. Perhaps we can all agree that he just used the wrong choice of wording and let it go? I think anyone that makes an effort to eat mostly vegan (or plant-based or whatever you want to call it) is doing animals and the environment (not to mention their bodies) a HUGE favour. So can we please just give some props instead of criticism?
Also--It might help to bring someone over to veganism (if that's the goal), if say, vegans out there encouraged, rather than discouraged one's efforts.
How many vegans out there actually go cold-turkey vegan?--pardon the pun. but not really
Benefits to animals, environment, and our bodies is very much context based. I know vegans who make sure they are getting a well-balanced and nutritious varied diet and some who don't, and use veganism as an excuse for their eating disordered choices.
I agree that it was a poor choice of words for the OP, and find it highly amusing as well as being disrespectful towards those who have taken a stance on ethical concerns for the well-being of animals. Converting people is far from being my goal, and I find aggressive scare tactics (not in this thread, but in general) to be highly unpalatable. The position that it's better for all under every circumstance is just incorrect. Blanket statements like these usually are.
I think that people should choose the diet that works for them, but make rational choices and go about it in a healthy manner. So no, kudos is not always appropriate in all situations. There's not enough information in the OP to determine if that's the case here. So I'm not taking a stance on that aspect of it.nutmegoreo wrote: »Rough crowd! Not all plant based eaters make that decision for the same reason. I eat mostly plant based because I believe it's healthier. But I still use fish sauce in my Thai curries.
I love Isa Chandra Moskowitz. Her recipes are generally easy and delicious. Post Pink Kitchen
If he had said "plant-based," there would be no issue. "Vegan" implies an ethical position.
And not eating meat once per week as a delicacy. Oh my god I just laughed a little. I needed that.
Right?1 -
yogastrongmama wrote: »I'm with kaypee65. Bit harsh, guys. Perhaps we can all agree that he just used the wrong choice of wording and let it go? I think anyone that makes an effort to eat mostly vegan (or plant-based or whatever you want to call it) is doing animals and the environment (not to mention their bodies) a HUGE favour. So can we please just give some props instead of criticism?
Also--It might help to bring someone over to veganism (if that's the goal), if say, vegans out there encouraged, rather than discouraged one's efforts.
How many vegans out there actually go cold-turkey vegan?--pardon the pun. but not really
I don't want to be less harsh.
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xbowhunter wrote: »My protein comes from natural sources. Deer/Turkey/Bear & the fish I catch.
As opposed to unnatural protein? Care to give an example?1 -
yogastrongmama wrote: »I'm with kaypee65. Bit harsh, guys. Perhaps we can all agree that he just used the wrong choice of wording and let it go? I think anyone that makes an effort to eat mostly vegan (or plant-based or whatever you want to call it) is doing animals and the environment (not to mention their bodies) a HUGE favour. So can we please just give some props instead of criticism?
Also--It might help to bring someone over to veganism (if that's the goal), if say, vegans out there encouraged, rather than discouraged one's efforts.
How many vegans out there actually go cold-turkey vegan?--pardon the pun. but not really
I don't want to be less harsh.
Actual LOL.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »xbowhunter wrote: »My protein comes from natural sources. Deer/Turkey/Bear & the fish I catch.
As opposed to unnatural protein? Care to give an example?
This reminds me of the lab grown meat thread.3 -
Non-judgy vegan here looking to add like-minded friends. Anyone can feel free to add me! And for the record, I think being "mostly vegan" is better than nothing. People get so upset over terminology. Eat what you want to eat, and I'll do the same.x10
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OP where'd you go? It's Friday. Is it a meat day?8
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TeenaMarina wrote: »Non-judgy vegan here looking to add like-minded friends. Anyone can feel free to add me! And for the record, I think being "mostly vegan" is better than nothing. People get so upset over terminology. Eat what you want to eat, and I'll do the same.x
Did anybody here say that reducing meat consumption (which is what OP is going, since "mostly vegan" isn't really a thing) isn't better than nothing?1 -
Returning to MFP after being away for a few years. Went vegan in September 2017, initially to support my wife’s choice to do so (first thing I did when starting was go into google and type “vegan cookies”). While I have likely had a mid-step or two along the way (the waiter said it was a vegan burger, so I believed him), I am now doing this by choice. Main reason is health benefits.
The good:
- Lost 45 lbs so far and have definitely not starved myself
- My Type 2 diabetes is under control without any need for meds
- More energy to keep up with my kids
The “bad”
- My overall cholesterol level is down, but my good/bad ratio still stinks as my HDL is only around 30. Started Omegas and a glass of red wine when I remember it (never liked alcohol - food was a much tastier addiction)
- I miss pizza
I will try to be good about asking people to be my friend, but at 48 my trepidation is ingrained in my brain. If anyone reads this and would like to make the initial overture, I will happily accept any and all requests.
Best of luck to all of us vegans, and to everybody else doing the best they can for themselves!1 -
As a vegan, I'd suggest changing the forum name. It's not very welcoming here. Just came to ask about recipes.4
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JoannaL1375 wrote: »As a vegan, I'd suggest changing the forum name. It's not very welcoming here. Just came to ask about recipes.
If you're looking for recipes, I recommending doing a search for "vegan" in the "Recipe" forum. There are multiple threads with recipes there.1 -
Have you tried eating pizza without the cheese but just the sauce and lots of vegetables?2
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Cashew cheese is delicious on vegan pizza!!! No, not the same as mozzarella, but delicious nonetheless.1
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